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"One of Clintons biggest strengths [is] her passion for advancing the middle class and renewing American upward mobility"
-- Correct the Record, a group dedicated to defending Hillary Clinton from unfair attacks
If only Hillary had political power the last two decades, the 99% wouldn't have had all our money handed to the bankers.
(Sorry, saw the quote and couldn't resist.)
pkdu
(3,977 posts)(Cough) Bernie Sanders (cough)
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)That is objectively false as the President does not create the platform, the people do, the elected delegates to the convention. And it will be more liberal than any platform before it, as is usually the case.
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)perpetual refusal to take responsibility for her own actions, refusal to step away from the Iraq War legacy of crime, etc. etc...Hillary Clinton does not have strengths, only neuroses and albatrosses.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Because that's what the people want her to do, grovel.
It is a fact that UN Resolution 1441 required the US to reconvene with the UN to invade, what Bush did contravened international law.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)for gruesome, middle class gutting, Union busting villains like Ronald Reagan and George Bush? She made millions under Reagan/Bush while the rest of us got trickled down on.
Nothing says 'siding with Republicans' quite like BEING a loyal, decades long Republican donor and voter, like Elizabeth Warren.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Just like I like lots of former Republicans who started paying attention to politics and switched parties.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)2. Of those two, who had more power to influence the outcome of their bad votes?
3. Who had access to more and better information around the subjects they were voting on?
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Wonder if we will soon be seeing trial balloons abut not even having primaries, because Hillary is so very wondrous.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Point to a Hillary supporter who objects to an open Primary.
djean111
(14,255 posts)when the money could be used for the actual race, and why give the GOP any ammunition from other would-be candidates.
And the Hillary camp has been pushing the inevitable meme for quite a while.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Start here at post #10: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025115191#post10
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...the referenced article only says she supports Hillary.
Care to try again?
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)joshcryer
(62,536 posts)I have never seen a DUer here who has supported that. I have had some indicate it, but after a simple discussion, they realized the folly of the argument.
Start at post 10: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025115191
A closed primary or a simple "consensus choice" destroys the party platform. It wouldn't work even if some top elites wanted it to work.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)about your passion for the middle class as well
LawDeeDah
(1,596 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)just the other day!
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Mother posted here
QC
(26,371 posts)such as when shrieking mobs of fanbotz surround people who can't afford their mandatory insurance and accuse them of being liars.
JustAnotherGen
(38,054 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I can look it up for you if you'd like.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)...backs gay marriage, decries income inequality, wants to address student loans, yeah, it's going to be awesome. Absolutely fucking awesome.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... and demonstrably false.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... Correct the Record, are defending Hillary by lying.
How very Republican of them.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Although Hillary Clinton has made no formal announcement of her candidacy, the consensus on Wall Street is that she is runningand running hardand that her national organization is quickly falling into place behind the scenes. That all makes her attractive. Wall Street, above all, loves a winner, especially one who is not likely to tamper too radically with its vast money pot.
According to a wide assortment of bankers and hedge-fund managers I spoke to for this article, Clintons rock-solid support on Wall Street is not anything that can be dislodged based on a few seemingly off-the-cuff comments in Boston calculated to protect her left flank.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/11/why-wall-street-loves-hillary-112782_full.html#.VGVtjPnF-Sp
Seems as though ever since Wall Street took over our treasury dept years ago, our "American upward mobility" took a nose dive, at least for the majority..We need to END this, not hand them the fricking keys.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Clinton while a Democrat, is still too conservative for me, I am not surprised the two rich right leaning East Coast white people in their 60's get along and endorse each other. Of course for Warren that's progress, back when I voted for Bill Clinton, and Hillary voted for Bill Clinton, Warren was still a raging Bush supporter and rabid anti choice supply side warrior, hating the gays and loving her million dollar morning in America.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)that turned out.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)That letter was a general endorsement supporting a female nominee. She explains that here while REFUSING to endorse Hill~
So is she your candidate in 2016?
WARREN: You know, all of the women -- Democratic women, I should say, of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run. And I hope she does.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You hope she does. And if she does, she is your candidate, you're going to endorse her?
WARREN: If Hillary -- Hillary is terrific.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You know, you've said she is terrific very many times. You say that again in this book, "A Fighting Chance." But this book leaves out something of a pointed criticism from your earlier book, "The Two Income Trap."
There you praised first lady Hillary Clinton for her opposition to this bankruptcy bill pushed by the big banks, but go on to talk about how she, as New York senator, seemed she could not afford that principled position.
Senator Clinton received 140,000 in campaign contributions from banking industry executives in a single year. Big banks were now part of Senator Clinton's constituency. She wanted their support, and they wanted hers, including a vote in favor of that awful bill.
So do you think that -- are you worried that somehow she will bow to big business, those were your words in that book, if she becomes president?
WARREN: Look, I've made it clear all the way through this book and really what I've been working on for the last 25 years, that I'm worried a lot about power in the financial services industry.
http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/abcs-stephanopoulos-makes-elizabeth-warren
baldguy
(36,649 posts)"All all of the women Democratic women I should say of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific."
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Wanting someone to run along with a bunch of other women is not saying "I endorse her".
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/10/13/elizabeth-warren-highlights-hillary-clintons-goldman-problem/
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)support anyone who betrays the principles they CLAIMED to hold once it becomes apparent that they were either lying or were easily led once they reached DC?
Only blind loyalists do that. Most Liberals are far from blind and you should know from posting here at least, that when a politician totally changes his/her views after they have been elected, Liberals will not hesitate to drop support for such a person. Of course they will be attacked by the true loyalists who DO blindly support politicians no matter what they do, but that won't have much effect on those who do not put party before country and support candidates who put their country and the people who elect them FIRST.
I love how people think that they can defend their favorite candidate against justifiable criticism, by assuming that pointing out that the assumed favorite of the critics, is 'just as bad'. I can assure you Warren will lose support the minute she starts acting like many of the other, once trusted, politicians we have to deal with.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I hope people try to remember to be kind to one another.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)We have nothing good to recompense her.
vt_native
(484 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Good one, guys.
One of her REAL biggest strengths is her passion for equality for women.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Thank you, L0oniX, for saying something that is not said nearly often enough.
No more Booshes or Clintons, ever.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)11 Bravo
(24,310 posts)no shit-on-Hillary posts for literally dozens of hours.
Glad to find you in good health.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Believe this and you will believe literally anything.