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2014-Best year for job creation since 1999 yet President Obama gets no credit. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 OP
When does he ever get credit for anything? Rex Dec 2014 #1
I know the economy is not great for a lot of people but as they saying goes "everything is relative" DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #2
It's not perplexing to me, it is by design imo. Rex Dec 2014 #3
What chaps my ass are the attacks on him right here ... 11 Bravo Dec 2014 #23
As someone pointed out earlier to me Rex Dec 2014 #24
Unemployment by party tuhaybey Dec 2014 #4
Better to have 3 than none at all I guess. There is something to meet ones self coming and going. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #6
You could do the same thing with the stock market but rich people still vote Republican. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #7
Yep tuhaybey Dec 2014 #16
No because those stinking jobs require one to work three to exist. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #5
And that's Obama's fault? Andy823 Dec 2014 #13
Where did I say that? lonestarnot Dec 2014 #29
I agree Andy823 Dec 2014 #8
Isn't that the truth. Of course, I don't kid myself that everyone is here to support Democrats. okaawhatever Dec 2014 #10
I agree Andy823 Dec 2014 #14
k&r.... spanone Dec 2014 #9
Most new jobs created have been low-wage, part-time brentspeak Dec 2014 #11
gotta link?...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #12
Voila DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2014 #18
From link: "To put it another way, median family income in the U.S. has fallen back to 1995 levels" RiverLover Dec 2014 #27
See User-friendly St Loius Fed website econoclast Dec 2014 #20
Whoopy dink. 99Forever Dec 2014 #15
He gets no credit because THE JOBS ARE SHIT. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #17
and despite the doomers-r-us crew whatthehey Dec 2014 #19
This is a little OT, but Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #21
Will this work? Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #22
Best year ever! lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #25
Of course not, he's a Democrat Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #26
Because Obama is a free-market hating communist Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #28
I kinda assumed all Presidents got credit for jobs or lack of during terms. raouldukelives Dec 2014 #30
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. When does he ever get credit for anything?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:27 AM
Dec 2014

The talking heads are too busy trashing him daily. He has the worlds biggest lie machine constantly pumping out negative bullshit about his family and his political policies.

And half this country is too fucking lazy to go and do their own research (all of 5 minutes on google) and would just rather have CNN-Foxnews/hate radio tell them what to think.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. I know the economy is not great for a lot of people but as they saying goes "everything is relative"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:30 AM
Dec 2014

And relatively speaking there has been marked improvement in the economy since Barack Obama became president. The fact he gets no credit for the recovery is perplexing and disturbing.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. It's not perplexing to me, it is by design imo.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:34 AM
Dec 2014

Yet it is very disturbing. I know what you mean, Wall Street is at a record high, employment is picking up, the economy is surviving (and thriving for some) despite the GOPs attempt to kill it in 2008.

Obama has a great record year...but did you hear about it or that he is working with the criminals to thwart the police? The M$M has it out against Obama, I think from day one of his first term.



11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
23. What chaps my ass are the attacks on him right here ...
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:41 PM
Dec 2014

at the good old "Democratic" Underground.
I expect that shit from Fox, Pigboy, and the rest of the right-wing echo chamber; but it's disconcerting to read it on a site supposedly dedicated to the advancement of Democrats.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. As someone pointed out earlier to me
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:48 PM
Dec 2014

People that do nothing but attack the POTUS all the time here are anything but part of the Big Tent party and I agree. I think we have some libertarians on this site that stay in the background and wait for negative posts about the POTUS. Then they pounce.

tuhaybey

(76 posts)
4. Unemployment by party
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:22 AM
Dec 2014

The pattern that unemployment drops under Democratic Presidents and rises under Republican presidents is so stark that people assume the data is fake: change in unemployment rate by president. People assume that if it really were that stark, nobody would ever vote Republican... But it really is that stark and yet people do still vote Republican.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
6. Better to have 3 than none at all I guess. There is something to meet ones self coming and going.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 11:26 AM
Dec 2014

Maybe pugs like that, they are pretty vain.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. You could do the same thing with the stock market but rich people still vote Republican.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

I had a college professor who was your garden variety liberal Democrat. He was also a heavy investor and one of his motivations for voting Democratic was because his investments did so good.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
13. And that's Obama's fault?
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:49 PM
Dec 2014

It's the employer who is at fault for not raising wages, and republicans for refusing to do anything about raising the minimum wage in this country. People in every state that has a low minimum wage need to be protesting at their state capitals letting the state government to do something about low wages. They also need to be writing to all the republicans that represent them in D.C. and tell them just how pissed they really are. Now matter what some may say, "everything" bad is not Obama's fault.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
8. I agree
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:20 PM
Dec 2014

And it's really sad when even here on DU every time someone posts about the "GOOD" he has done, or is doing, the threads get highjacked by the anti Obama crowd, and they take over the thread by attacking him on everything they can think of instead of simply admitting that he has done something good. It's crazy.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
10. Isn't that the truth. Of course, I don't kid myself that everyone is here to support Democrats.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:29 PM
Dec 2014

There are those here who work against us, and it's never more obvious than when something good is reported. The naysayers come out of the woodwork to distract from the success of the Democratic President and Democratic policies.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
14. I agree
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:51 PM
Dec 2014

Some posters are pretty obvious about their "real" agenda, and their constant bashing and trashing the president and the democratic party show just what that agenda is.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
11. Most new jobs created have been low-wage, part-time
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 12:35 PM
Dec 2014

Numbers simply used to artificially pump-up the U-3 employment statistics. The very definition of "using numbers to say what you want them to say".

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
27. From link: "To put it another way, median family income in the U.S. has fallen back to 1995 levels"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014
While wages are up 2% over the past year, that's just slightly ahead of inflation, which means most U.S. workers don't feel any better off.

To put it another way, median family income in the U.S. has fallen back to 1995 levels.


But I'm really really happy there are fewer people not working at all!! Great news, but we're a long way from where we should be income-wise.

econoclast

(543 posts)
20. See User-friendly St Loius Fed website
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:46 PM
Dec 2014

We LOST 150,000 Full Time jobs last month.

Full-Time employment DECLINED by 150,000 in the most recent employment report.

Employed, Usually Work Full Time:
Oct - 119,632,000
Nov - 119,482,000

A decline of 150,000

Numbers come from the Household survey...the same data set that the Unemployment Rate comes from.

They are easily accessible via the St Loius Fed's website. Data is Series LNS12500000.

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS12500000

In fact, looking at this data series for Full Time employees we see that the high water mark for Full Time Employment was way back in November 2007 when Full Time Employment hit 121,876,000

We are STILL 2.3 MILLION Full Time Jobs short of that all time high. And lost 150,000 full time jobs last month.

Still lots of work to do.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
17. He gets no credit because THE JOBS ARE SHIT.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:23 PM
Dec 2014

There has been no recovery for the 99% and talk about the "Obama Recovery" just alienates voters.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
19. and despite the doomers-r-us crew
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:35 PM
Dec 2014

average wages and hourly earnings went up too.

And note that these are for production and non-supervisory private sector employees, not skewed by the "Bill Gates walks into a bar" kind of averages

I suspect few in this group are not part of the 99%....

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t24.htm

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
21. This is a little OT, but
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 04:26 PM
Dec 2014

in the YouTube comments of one of TheAdviseShow's videos, there was one poster who claimed to be Black, calling O a sellout and saying that he has done nothing for the Black community (despite all the jobs gains and other things), and another person suggesting that we vote for either Greens, Libertarians, or the Constitution Party (as if that's going to solve much with this gridlock).
Words can't describe how frustrated I am with the blind cynics and the ignorance of politics in this country. I never, ever want to be president. You don't get credit when things improve, and you get the bulk of the blame even for factors that are out of your control.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
26. Of course not, he's a Democrat
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:52 PM
Dec 2014

If Obama was a Republican and had done every single thing exactly the same to the tiniest detail, they'd be glowjobbing him as the reincarnation of Reagan Christ.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
28. Because Obama is a free-market hating communist
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014

with ingrained Muslim sympathies that make him want to weaken the West...

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
30. I kinda assumed all Presidents got credit for jobs or lack of during terms.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:40 AM
Dec 2014

How is he not getting credit? The jobs are crap of course but he should still get credit for it. Just as he gets credit for drone strikes, attacking whistle blowers, eroding education and sitting in the lap of big banks.
Maybe part of the problem is everything slightly bad that happens isn't his fault and everything slightly good that happens is only because of him? I dunno.
In any case, good job Pres!

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