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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2014-Best year for job creation since 1999 yet President Obama gets no credit.
Rex
(65,616 posts)The talking heads are too busy trashing him daily. He has the worlds biggest lie machine constantly pumping out negative bullshit about his family and his political policies.
And half this country is too fucking lazy to go and do their own research (all of 5 minutes on google) and would just rather have CNN-Foxnews/hate radio tell them what to think.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)And relatively speaking there has been marked improvement in the economy since Barack Obama became president. The fact he gets no credit for the recovery is perplexing and disturbing.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Yet it is very disturbing. I know what you mean, Wall Street is at a record high, employment is picking up, the economy is surviving (and thriving for some) despite the GOPs attempt to kill it in 2008.
Obama has a great record year...but did you hear about it or that he is working with the criminals to thwart the police? The M$M has it out against Obama, I think from day one of his first term.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)at the good old "Democratic" Underground.
I expect that shit from Fox, Pigboy, and the rest of the right-wing echo chamber; but it's disconcerting to read it on a site supposedly dedicated to the advancement of Democrats.
Rex
(65,616 posts)People that do nothing but attack the POTUS all the time here are anything but part of the Big Tent party and I agree. I think we have some libertarians on this site that stay in the background and wait for negative posts about the POTUS. Then they pounce.
tuhaybey
(76 posts)The pattern that unemployment drops under Democratic Presidents and rises under Republican presidents is so stark that people assume the data is fake: change in unemployment rate by president. People assume that if it really were that stark, nobody would ever vote Republican... But it really is that stark and yet people do still vote Republican.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Maybe pugs like that, they are pretty vain.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I had a college professor who was your garden variety liberal Democrat. He was also a heavy investor and one of his motivations for voting Democratic was because his investments did so good.
tuhaybey
(76 posts)Indeed you can: stock market performance by party. In fact, the difference is even more striking with the stock market.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)It's the employer who is at fault for not raising wages, and republicans for refusing to do anything about raising the minimum wage in this country. People in every state that has a low minimum wage need to be protesting at their state capitals letting the state government to do something about low wages. They also need to be writing to all the republicans that represent them in D.C. and tell them just how pissed they really are. Now matter what some may say, "everything" bad is not Obama's fault.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)And it's really sad when even here on DU every time someone posts about the "GOOD" he has done, or is doing, the threads get highjacked by the anti Obama crowd, and they take over the thread by attacking him on everything they can think of instead of simply admitting that he has done something good. It's crazy.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)There are those here who work against us, and it's never more obvious than when something good is reported. The naysayers come out of the woodwork to distract from the success of the Democratic President and Democratic policies.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Some posters are pretty obvious about their "real" agenda, and their constant bashing and trashing the president and the democratic party show just what that agenda is.
spanone
(135,831 posts)brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Numbers simply used to artificially pump-up the U-3 employment statistics. The very definition of "using numbers to say what you want them to say".
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Employers added 214,000 jobs in October, continuing a trend of strong job growth this year that is on track to be the best for America since 1999.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/07/news/economy/october-jobs-report-unemployment-fall/
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)To put it another way, median family income in the U.S. has fallen back to 1995 levels.
But I'm really really happy there are fewer people not working at all!! Great news, but we're a long way from where we should be income-wise.
econoclast
(543 posts)We LOST 150,000 Full Time jobs last month.
Full-Time employment DECLINED by 150,000 in the most recent employment report.
Employed, Usually Work Full Time:
Oct - 119,632,000
Nov - 119,482,000
A decline of 150,000
Numbers come from the Household survey...the same data set that the Unemployment Rate comes from.
They are easily accessible via the St Loius Fed's website. Data is Series LNS12500000.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/LNS12500000
In fact, looking at this data series for Full Time employees we see that the high water mark for Full Time Employment was way back in November 2007 when Full Time Employment hit 121,876,000
We are STILL 2.3 MILLION Full Time Jobs short of that all time high. And lost 150,000 full time jobs last month.
Still lots of work to do.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Low paying shit jobs with no benefits. Wonderful news.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)There has been no recovery for the 99% and talk about the "Obama Recovery" just alienates voters.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)average wages and hourly earnings went up too.
And note that these are for production and non-supervisory private sector employees, not skewed by the "Bill Gates walks into a bar" kind of averages
I suspect few in this group are not part of the 99%....
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t24.htm
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)in the YouTube comments of one of TheAdviseShow's videos, there was one poster who claimed to be Black, calling O a sellout and saying that he has done nothing for the Black community (despite all the jobs gains and other things), and another person suggesting that we vote for either Greens, Libertarians, or the Constitution Party (as if that's going to solve much with this gridlock).
Words can't describe how frustrated I am with the blind cynics and the ignorance of politics in this country. I never, ever want to be president. You don't get credit when things improve, and you get the bulk of the blame even for factors that are out of your control.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Employment to population ratio
Yay.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)If Obama was a Republican and had done every single thing exactly the same to the tiniest detail, they'd be glowjobbing him as the reincarnation of Reagan Christ.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)with ingrained Muslim sympathies that make him want to weaken the West...
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)How is he not getting credit? The jobs are crap of course but he should still get credit for it. Just as he gets credit for drone strikes, attacking whistle blowers, eroding education and sitting in the lap of big banks.
Maybe part of the problem is everything slightly bad that happens isn't his fault and everything slightly good that happens is only because of him? I dunno.
In any case, good job Pres!