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applegrove

(118,647 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:28 PM Dec 2014

Why some Republicans want to cancel the State of the Union address

Why some Republicans want to cancel the State of the Union address

By Paul Waldman at the Washington Post


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/12/03/why-some-republicans-want-to-cancel-the-state-of-the-union-address/?tid=rssfeed

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When I make reference to Republicans’ unusually powerful loathing for this president, I often get emails from conservative readers saying that I’m wrong; they don’t hate him, they just disagree with his policies. These protests are a little hard to take seriously when among other things so many on the right spent years questioning whether Barack Obama is actually an American at all. The fact that the birther movement has faded recently should not make us forget that the president of the United States was literally forced to produce his birth certificate to prove to his political opponents that he is indeed an American and therefore eligible to be president.

And that was just the most visible manifestation of the unwillingness of so many to accept the legitimacy of his presidency. This is not a fringe belief held only by a few. One poll taken just after the 2012 election found that 49 percent of Republicans believed that ACORN had stolen the election for Obama. That would have been a remarkable feat for any organization, but particularly so for ACORN, since it went out of business in 2010. The absurdity of that particular idea aside, a simple refusal to accept that Barack Obama is legitimately the president is common from the bottom to the top of the conservative movement, among ordinary voters, activists, media figures, and even elected officials. Republican Rep. Peter King said last year that there are “probably 30 or 40″ of his colleagues who refuse to accept the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency.

So the only surprising thing is that it took them so long to get around to discussing the cancellation of the State of the Union address. The address is reliably boring no matter who the president is, and it’s true that for much of the country’s history it was delivered in writing. But it serves an important purpose. It’s the only time when the entire federal government — all of Congress, most of the Supreme Court, and the cabinet, representing the three branches — gathers in one room. It says to the nation, this is your political leadership. They have their differences, but once a year they assemble to hear what the president has to say. Their presence is an implicit validation of the entire political structure and the president’s place atop it.

Naturally, some Republicans bristle at being forced to participate in this public validation of the president’s power and position. But what else can they do? I was particularly taken with Rep. Huelskamp’s suggestion that they “defund Air Force One.” After all, what is Barack Obama doing flying around in the president’s plane? Who does he think he is?




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Why some Republicans want to cancel the State of the Union address (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2014 OP
"He's black! Does anyone else see this! A black man is our president!" JaneyVee Dec 2014 #1
+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #2
Oh, they see; they just don't remember rock Dec 2014 #3
The GOP (leadership) doesn't hate Obama or his policies FiveGoodMen Dec 2014 #4
Actually your post says everything about you and nothing about the reality of what's happening. Cha Dec 2014 #6
+100 Mahalo Cha nt okaawhatever Dec 2014 #10
Actually they do hate him and his policies. They hate that a black LIBERAL man is president. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #12
Exactly nichomachus Dec 2014 #16
VERY well put! FiveGoodMen Dec 2014 #17
BFD.. that's right.. clap your head off at nada. Cha Dec 2014 #20
Nope you got it wrong too. More bullshit talking about ".. same guy has his hand up both asses." Cha Dec 2014 #19
Because he has a LOT to brag about? nt Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #5
Ding ding, we have a winner. They don't want him telling the American people what the press okaawhatever Dec 2014 #11
Peter King said last year that there are “probably 30 or 40 of his colleagues who refuse to accept Cha Dec 2014 #7
He underestimated Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #15
Shows their contempt for the Constitution central scrutinizer Dec 2014 #8
But that doesn't necessarily mean in the form of a speech. FLyellowdog Dec 2014 #9
It's really simple Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #13
It is in the Constitution anyway treestar Dec 2014 #14
The Constitution only requires a report. n/t tammywammy Dec 2014 #18
Republicans trying to cancel it says to the nation, this is your political leadership Johonny Dec 2014 #21
Are those in Congress required to attend? davidpdx Dec 2014 #22
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
1. "He's black! Does anyone else see this! A black man is our president!"
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:32 PM
Dec 2014

Subtext of the entire Republican party.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
4. The GOP (leadership) doesn't hate Obama or his policies
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:03 PM
Dec 2014

He's mostly implementing THEIR policies and they know it.

The show is just for the stupid voters.

Cha

(297,207 posts)
6. Actually your post says everything about you and nothing about the reality of what's happening.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:09 PM
Dec 2014

Talk about "stupid voters"

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
16. Exactly
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 10:08 PM
Dec 2014

It's just a Punch and Judy show. The main characters fight, scream, and yell. The audience out front boo, jee, laugh, cheer, and groan.

But if you look behind the curtain, the same guy has his hands up both their asses.

Cha

(297,207 posts)
19. Nope you got it wrong too. More bullshit talking about ".. same guy has his hand up both asses."
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:25 AM
Dec 2014

who the fuck talks like that? Like the fuck they know anything that's going?

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
11. Ding ding, we have a winner. They don't want him telling the American people what the press
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:45 PM
Dec 2014

refuses to report. America is coming back and most things are getting better.

Cha

(297,207 posts)
7. Peter King said last year that there are “probably 30 or 40 of his colleagues who refuse to accept
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:13 PM
Dec 2014
the legitimacy of Obama’s presidency.

Haha.. Peter King just outed his colleagues as being raging idiots.

thank you apple.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
8. Shows their contempt for the Constitution
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 08:18 PM
Dec 2014


He shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient.
—Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
9. But that doesn't necessarily mean in the form of a speech.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:32 PM
Dec 2014

It can be in written form as it used to be done prior to Woodrow Wilson.

What a sorry bunch of Representatives they are if they decide not to invite President Obama to their chambers to do this in person. I hope if they follow through with this that he'll go on national tv and give a State of the Union Address anyway.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
13. It's really simple
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 09:55 PM
Dec 2014

Republicans view any Democratic president as illegitimate by definition of being a Democrat. He's a Democrat, therefore illegitimate. During the Bush years, all the crazies that were active under Clinton became the GOP base and they brought that attitude with them. Then you add race to the mix (not all conservatives are racist but all racists are conservative) and you get this mess.

Johonny

(20,849 posts)
21. Republicans trying to cancel it says to the nation, this is your political leadership
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:10 AM
Dec 2014

crystal clear to me. Yet somehow these idiots get voted into office.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. Are those in Congress required to attend?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:33 AM
Dec 2014

I highly doubt it. So if they want to bitch and complain about it, tell them to just stay home. Several members of the Supreme Court don't show up anyway (usually the wingnuts).

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