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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:54 PM Dec 2014

What must Elizabeth Warren think of Hillary Clinton?

What must Elizabeth Warren think of Hillary Clinton?
12/1/2014

.., Warren previously wrote, “Soon after they crashed the economy and got tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer bailouts, the biggest Wall Street banks started lobbying Congress to head off any serious financial regulation. Public Citizen and the Center for Responsive Politics found that in 2009 alone, the financial services sector employed 1,447 former federal employees to carry out their lobbying efforts, swarming all over Congress. And who were their top lobbyists? Members of Congress — in fact, 73 former Members of Congress.”

Now you might think that Congress did precisely what Warren wanted in Dodd-Frank, specifically the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, for which Warren was nominated. But apparently that did not go far enough, and she remains steamed about the influence of former Wall Street people in positions requiring finance expertise. (Go figure.)

What, then, will she have to say about the ultimate Wall Street insider, Hillary Clinton? She continues feeding at Wall Street’s speaking-fee trough. She and her husband are plainly of the pro-business wing of the Democratic Party, and the sort of people who populated Bill Clinton’s administration would make Warren’s hair stand on end. (Among his top economic appointees — Larry Summers, Robert Rubin, Roger Altman, Gene Sperling and Alan Greenspan — there was nary a left-wing populist.)...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/12/01/what-must-elizabeth-warren-think-of-hillary-clinton/
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What must Elizabeth Warren think of Hillary Clinton? (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
Maybe she thinks Hillary is terrific? brooklynite Dec 2014 #1
April 27, 2014? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #8
According to Jennifer Rubin. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #2
Nice try. onehandle Dec 2014 #3
As soon as you are able to get past this fact the Hillary and Warren are on the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #4
Hahaha RobertEarl Dec 2014 #5
A,joke huh, are you doubting their respect either has for eack other? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #10
Have you read Elizabeth Warren's book yet? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #7
Hey I read Hillary's book also, it does not change the fact they both score Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #9
Interesting, that's the slant the Hillary camp is trying to push to win over populists...hmmm... RiverLover Dec 2014 #12
Did you see anything in the two links which said they were in the Hillary camp? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #14
I don't even know what you are trying to say. Just arguing again. RiverLover Dec 2014 #15
You are the one who stated this is from the Hillary camp, give the link. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #16
I already did. RiverLover Dec 2014 #19
Since you can not back up your statement it was coming from the Hillary Camp Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #21
+++ good vids. LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #20
Thanks LawDeeDah! RiverLover Dec 2014 #23
Great article. Loved it. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #6
Thanks. EW is too savvy to say anything about Hillary other than "I think she's terrific" RiverLover Dec 2014 #11
Of course she will say 'terrific' and not diss Hillary publicly LawDeeDah Dec 2014 #18
The author is a hardcore neoconservative Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #22
Well, she is on record. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #13
Warren is as always a set of contradictions. She opposed Bill Clinton strongly and supported George Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
1. Maybe she thinks Hillary is terrific?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:06 AM
Dec 2014

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she hopes Hillary Rodham Clinton runs for president in 2016 — the latest in a series of declarations of support by the Massachusetts Democrat, who some have speculated could seek the Oval Office herself.

"All all of the women — Democratic women I should say — of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run, and I hope she does. Hillary is terrific," Warren said during an interview broadcast Sunday on ABC's "This Week," noting that she was one of several senators to sign a letter urging Clinton to run in 2016.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/27/elizabeth-warren-i-hope-hillary-clinton-runs-for-president/

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. As soon as you are able to get past this fact the Hillary and Warren are on the
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:20 AM
Dec 2014

Same position on the liberal maybe you can see these two ladies in a better and even light. Don't be twisting facts to fit whatever needs you are trying to make, even Elizabeth Warren sees Hillary for as she really is, you are doing Elizabeth Warren big disservice by comparing the two, they recognize each for what they both are, very liberal and caring people who has the 99% as top priority.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
9. Hey I read Hillary's book also, it does not change the fact they both score
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:29 AM
Dec 2014

The same on the liberal scale. Have you read:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Elizabeth_Warren.htm


http://ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm


These are the issues and where they stand. They both have respect of the other, how many more ways do they need to express this.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
12. Interesting, that's the slant the Hillary camp is trying to push to win over populists...hmmm...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:09 AM
Dec 2014
Hillary & Elizabeth are not the Same.


Elizabeth Warren Implicitly Criticizes Hillary's Wall Street Ties


Hillary Clinton’s Continuity Government Versus Elizabeth Warren’s Voice for Change
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/10/hillary-clintons-continuity-government-versus-elizabeth-warrens-voice-for-change/

Hillary Clinton vs. Elizabeth Warren: Big Differences, Despite Claims To The Contrary
http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton-vs-elizabeth-warren-big-differences-despite-claims-contrary-1640810

Hillary Clinton’s Biggest Threat Isn’t a Republican — It’s Elizabeth Warren
http://mic.com/articles/103882/why-elizabeth-warren-is-the-biggest-threat-facing-hillary-clinton

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
14. Did you see anything in the two links which said they were in the Hillary camp?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:46 AM
Dec 2014

And since you have brought up the fact their stands on the issues is from the Hillary camp give the link. Are you pushing the same from the Warren camp? Are you doing a favor to your candidate by calling her a liar?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. You are the one who stated this is from the Hillary camp, give the link.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:59 AM
Dec 2014

Asking for a link should not be difficult to understand.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
19. I already did.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:40 AM
Dec 2014

No one ever won by underestimating the intelligence of Progressives(that only works with rethugs.) No one who has been paying attention, with an IQ above that of a pine cone, would think Hillary & Elizabeth are on the same page on economic & fiscal issues.

Liz fights Wall Street, Hillary is Wall Street.

Anyone who's been paying attention must realize they've been shown as polar opposites economically for over the past year.

What did Hillary say when desperately trying to sound populist..."No one ever said businesses and corporations create jobs", that right there is an in your face clue.

Hillary's Nightmare? A Democratic Party That Realizes Its Soul Lies With Elizabeth Warren

...All of this is deeply problematic for Hillary Clinton. As a student of public opinion, she clearly understands the direction her party is headed. As the head of an enterprise known as Clinton Inc. that requires vast sums of capital to function, she also realizes there are limits to how much she can alienate the lords of finance. For that matter, it’s not even clear Clinton would want to. “Many of her best friends, her intellectual brain trust [on economics], all come out of that world,” says a longtime Democratic operative who worked on Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign and then for Hillary in the White House. “She doesn’t have a problem on the fighting-for-working-class-folks side”—protecting Medicare and Social Security—“but it will be hard, really wrenching for her to be that populist on [finance] issues.”

Which brings us to the probable face of the insurgency. In addition to being strongly identified with the party’s populist wing, any candidate who challenged Clinton would need several key assets. The candidate would almost certainly have to be a woman, given Democrats’ desire to make history again. She would have to amass huge piles of money with relatively little effort. Above all, she would have to awaken in Democratic voters an almost evangelical passion. As it happens, there is precisely such a person. Her name is Elizabeth Warren.

A Harvard law professor and best-selling author who led the congressional task force overseeing the bank bailout, Warren was already a liberal icon before she set foot in the Senate last January. Her public floggings of Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner helped make her a fixture on MSNBC, “The Daily Show,” and The Huffington Post.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115509/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-nightmare


That's all I have to say to you on this thread ta. I refuse to waste time & energy on something that is so freakin' obvious.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
21. Since you can not back up your statement it was coming from the Hillary Camp
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:50 AM
Dec 2014

Then I can conclude you do not have a link. Another myth debunk because of no proof.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
11. Thanks. EW is too savvy to say anything about Hillary other than "I think she's terrific"
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:57 AM
Dec 2014

Picks her battles wisely. Hillary is "iconic" after all.



STEPHANOPOULOS: You've been pretty clear, and we showed it in Jeff Zeleny's piece, that you say you're not running for president in 2016. It seems like you've just affirmed it again. You also signed a letter -- several senators signed a letter earlier this year encouraging Hillary Clinton to run.
So is she your candidate in 2016?

WARREN: You know, all of the women -- Democratic women, I should say, of the Senate urged Hillary Clinton to run. And I hope she does.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You hope she does. And if she does, she is your candidate, you're going to endorse her?

WARREN: If Hillary -- Hillary is terrific.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You know, you've said she is terrific very many times. You say that again in this book, "A Fighting Chance." But this book leaves out something of a pointed criticism from your earlier book, "The Two Income Trap."

There you praised first lady Hillary Clinton for her opposition to this bankruptcy bill pushed by the big banks, but go on to talk about how she, as New York senator, seemed she could not afford that principled position.

Senator Clinton received 140,000 in campaign contributions from banking industry executives in a single year. Big banks were now part of Senator Clinton's constituency. She wanted their support, and they wanted hers, including a vote in favor of that awful bill.

So do you think that -- are you worried that somehow she will bow to big business, those were your words in that book, if she becomes president?

WARREN: Look, I've made it clear all the way through this book and really what I've been working on for the last 25 years, that I'm worried a lot about power in the financial services industry.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/abcs-stephanopoulos-makes-elizabeth-warren

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
18. Of course she will say 'terrific' and not diss Hillary publicly
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:37 AM
Dec 2014

I don't know why people think this is some kind of blood oath of loyalty and love and admiration of Clinton.

Just imagine if Warren said publicly that she did Not think Hillary was terrific - can't even imagine that because Elizabeth Warren is not a stupid person.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. Well, she is on record.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:28 AM
Dec 2014

Unless you don't believe what Warren says, pretty obvious what Warren thinks. Then again, I don't get paid by word count or by riling negative emotions in those not based in reality. Some have simply found that is the easiest way to get paid. They find out soon the people they are catering to are so wishy washy that they are here today and gone tomorrow. Great article today, under the bus tomorrow.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Warren is as always a set of contradictions. She opposed Bill Clinton strongly and supported George
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:24 AM
Dec 2014

Bush to continue her beloved Reaganomics policies and other right wing ideals that were making her richer faster than she'd ever dreamed. Now she says she likes Hillary, but might run against her.
If Warren was our nominee, not matter who the Republicans nominate the nominee of each Party will be a Reagan/Bush voter. Good stuff with extra bigot sauces, for dipping to one's right!!!

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