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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:13 AM Dec 2014

Where Rectal Feeding Came From and How the CIA Used It

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-10/rectal-feeding-of-detainees-called-abuse-with-guise-of-treatment.html


This photo reviewed by the US military and made during an escorted visit shows a US naval medic explaining the "feeding chair" procedures at the detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, on April 9, 2014.

The revelation that U.S. interrogators force-fed terrorism suspects through their rectums outraged human-rights activists and doctors, who called it an outdated practice with no legitimate medical rationale.

Rectal feeding was performed on at least five detainees, none with documented conditions that made it medically necessary, according to a report released by Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee. Others were also threatened with rectal rehydration, according to cables and records.

While rectal hydration may be used in emergency situations, it’s not the first-, second- or even third-best option, said Allen Keller, director of the Bellevue/New York University Program for Survivors of Torture. It’s clear in the context of the report that there were ulterior motives in the decision to use the technique, he said.

“This was done not solely for therapeutic reasons but as another form of abuse or humiliation,” Keller said. “Given the circumstances, this is sodomy with the intention of humiliation under the guise of medical treatment.”
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Where Rectal Feeding Came From and How the CIA Used It (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2014 OP
Food rape underpants Dec 2014 #1
They ass raped people. I'm so proud to be an american. I need a new flag on my truck. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #2
And a Dubya "Miss me yet?" decal. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #5
JEB 2016! Get with the program! nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #19
But...9/11! deutsey Dec 2014 #3
ONLY A PERVERT---I DON'T CARE WHAT CLOTHING OR TITLE---COULD COIN THIS TERM. PER-VERT. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #4
But, a med tech and an MD likely acted like good soldiers to make it happen. HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #6
No, stay with the passive tense! "Sure mistakes happened, some people were tortured." If I found out WinkyDink Dec 2014 #7
No some "folks" were tortured. zeemike Dec 2014 #11
Heh. Gotta love "folks." WinkyDink Dec 2014 #17
No, I'll stand up for the that. It was invented 100 years ago in WWI Recursion Dec 2014 #13
But "Johnny Got His Gun" was written by a commie. Hoppy Dec 2014 #15
Mea culpa on not checking the origin. I'll amend my post: ONLY A PERVERT WOULD PERVERT A MEDICAL WinkyDink Dec 2014 #18
If Obama ended the torture, how come the Navy is still explaining the procedures last April? Scuba Dec 2014 #8
State-sanctioned torture, rape and murder. Be sure you vote, keep our democracy intact. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #9
I was only following orders! SCVDem Dec 2014 #10
It's ****ing RAPE Recursion Dec 2014 #12
It is rape on a level of war crimes, because it is state-sanctioned, state-initiated rape. msanthrope Dec 2014 #20
the USA Government is on the Edge of losing ALL Human Dignity mettamega Dec 2014 #14
I commisserate on the pain Tsiyu Dec 2014 #21
Could somebody explain to me 90-percent Dec 2014 #16
Keep this kicked. johnnyreb Dec 2014 #22
It was done to "exert total control over the detainee." herding cats Dec 2014 #23
Abu Ghraib was blamed on " a few rogue, low-level soldiers". Everyone here bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #24

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. But, a med tech and an MD likely acted like good soldiers to make it happen.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:30 AM
Dec 2014

As products of the same culture and society that made this happen we should realize that WE are not so different from THEM.

You know the them I mean, THEM! Those denizens of nations where the sun never shone.

Them! Those demonic kraut and beet eating miscreants we learned about from movies about WWII and the Cold War living in far away places where leaders plotted to extend international empires while the masses merrily supported their troops.

Yes, this wasn't regular soldiers...it was a few bad apples...members of a special politicized subgroup who like skulls on their hats...

Look we got Bin Laden, so it was ALL IN A GOOD CAUSE. We just matched our adversaries viciousness, gave them some of their own medicine. We are not ________.

Sure mistakes happened, we tortured some people. But that's not the American character...

So true,

It is actually the very dark-side of the HUMAN character and everyone, everywhere must guard against it.

We have met the enemy and it -is- in us.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
7. No, stay with the passive tense! "Sure mistakes happened, some people were tortured." If I found out
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:33 AM
Dec 2014

today that Dick Cheney was to be tortured himself, I'd find it difficult to protest.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
11. No some "folks" were tortured.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Dec 2014

and folks sounds so folksy don't it?...it makes it a kinder, genteeler torture...but you got everything else exactly right.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. No, I'll stand up for the that. It was invented 100 years ago in WWI
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:44 AM
Dec 2014

for "Johnny Got His Gun" situations when a soldier's face was blown off. The doctors who invented it aren't to blame here.

It's been considered obsolete for about 60 years now.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. But "Johnny Got His Gun" was written by a commie.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

We don't want you referring to that kinda stuff on our board.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
18. Mea culpa on not checking the origin. I'll amend my post: ONLY A PERVERT WOULD PERVERT A MEDICAL
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:35 PM
Dec 2014

TERM THAT WAS USED IN SAVING LIVES.

Prescott Bush DID aid and abet the Nazis, lest we forget.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
10. I was only following orders!
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:27 AM
Dec 2014

We can't unexecute those we killed for war crimes while we demonstrate American hypocrisy to the world.

I am not so proud to be an American and I don't feel awesome!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
20. It is rape on a level of war crimes, because it is state-sanctioned, state-initiated rape.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

It's Bosnia.

mettamega

(81 posts)
14. the USA Government is on the Edge of losing ALL Human Dignity
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:55 AM
Dec 2014

the sadness I feel reading this, is almost beyond bearing .. we the People of the US of America are on the Edge of losing all our Human Dignity ... image the state of being of the 'people' who actually performed these horrific insults to another human being and what they must have done to themselves to carry such acts out ... Metta, metta, please forgive them, they know not what they do ...

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
21. I commisserate on the pain
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:26 PM
Dec 2014

but I refuse to believe they don't know what they're doing.

The lunatics are in charge all over the nation and they like that just fine.

http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/dublin/2014/12/10/david-hooks-shot-twice-in-back/20213383/

It is up to us to stop them, because no god ever does.

Maybe some superheroes will emerge...


90-percent

(6,829 posts)
16. Could somebody explain to me
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:29 AM
Dec 2014

How our CIA acting on behalf of our government and force feeding terrorism suspects through their rectum's helps "make America Safe" and substantiates the best of the American spirit and makes us the "shining beacon of liberty on the hill".

"We will be greeting in Iraq as liberators and people will line up for blocks for their American administered dose of "freedom enema's"

Cheney did say something like that at the time, didn't he?

-90% jimmy

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. It was done to "exert total control over the detainee."
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:44 PM
Dec 2014

Sounds like S&M to me. I'm not judging a kink between two consensual adults, but that's not what we're talking about here, is it? We're talking about people being paid tens of millions of dollars to anally molest, humiliate and totally control unwilling victims, all done with the blessings of the leaders of the USA. We're talking about state sanctioned rape under the ruse of keeping America safe from the "terrorist."

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

We have become the monsters we feared.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
24. Abu Ghraib was blamed on " a few rogue, low-level soldiers". Everyone here
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:54 PM
Dec 2014

knew that was complete bullshit at the time the revelations were made, but this report should satisfy beyond any iota of doubt where this mindset came from.

K&R.

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