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Bernie Sanders: If you can believe it... (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2014 OP
closer and closer? BubbaFett Dec 2014 #1
+ 1,000,000,000 lark Dec 2014 #6
+ a few trillion! nt adirondacker Dec 2014 #19
I'll take that and up it a gazillion nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #24
Our political system is already irretrievably corrupt -- what's a few more dollars? nichomachus Dec 2014 #2
THIS^^^ CrispyQ Dec 2014 #4
In the words of Homer Simpson "D'oh!". nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #8
The tenth-percenters who call the shots have absolutely no skin in the game hifiguy Dec 2014 #13
I wish more people realised this. Same-sex marriage, TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE, is just a useful sop. djean111 Dec 2014 #28
Politicians have become finger puppets for the corps. Maybe what we need is a billionaire with a adirondacker Dec 2014 #20
Nor worries rusty fender Dec 2014 #3
Did you forget the sarcasm thingie? truebluegreen Dec 2014 #5
If the things in it are that bad, rusty fender Dec 2014 #14
Well, I happen to agree. truebluegreen Dec 2014 #18
"Should" but "WILL" ? nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #25
No, the White House has endorsed the deal. totodeinhere Dec 2014 #12
The WH and a few Wall Street Execs was calling around to get Dems to vote for this monstrosity. n/t fasttense Dec 2014 #37
My sentiments, exactly, Senator Sanders. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #7
Bernie Sounds like Scott6113 Dec 2014 #9
Unfortunately... sendero Dec 2014 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #31
Sanders/Warren 2016! nt silvershadow Dec 2014 #10
That's my dream ticket too MissDeeds Dec 2014 #15
I have called his office periodically to urge him to switch to the Democratic party. silvershadow Dec 2014 #16
Yes, or vise versa. morningfog Dec 2014 #30
Kick and Rec. hifiguy Dec 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #32
I hate us. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #33
K and R bigwillq Dec 2014 #21
I can't help but notice that the clock above the flag is frowning jimlup Dec 2014 #22
kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #23
What's disgusting florida08 Dec 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #29
Dammit! I want Bernie for President! Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #34
Thanks Obama, Reid and all our "Democratic" leaders! hueymahl Dec 2014 #35
A lot of DUers want less Democrats in Congress IronLionZion Dec 2014 #36
Why don't you ever filibuster anything Sen. Sanders? HumphreyDemocrat Dec 2014 #38

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
2. Our political system is already irretrievably corrupt -- what's a few more dollars?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:34 PM
Dec 2014

We need to change the system. Just shuffling people in and out of the Oval Office isn't going to make any significant different. No matter who sits there, they can only act within the constraints set by their corporate masters.

CrispyQ

(36,462 posts)
4. THIS^^^
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:08 PM
Dec 2014

The presidency is an iconic position. The corpo-elite may allow some sway on social issues, but economically the 99% are fucked.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. The tenth-percenters who call the shots have absolutely no skin in the game
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:43 PM
Dec 2014

and could not care less about legal weed or same-sex marriage. There's no big money there and the tenth-percenters care about only two things - hoarding all the Money in the world and having the Power to make sure that "their" Money is protected from the Teeming Millions of Future Peasants and Serfs.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
28. I wish more people realised this. Same-sex marriage, TO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE, is just a useful sop.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 10:57 AM
Dec 2014

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
20. Politicians have become finger puppets for the corps. Maybe what we need is a billionaire with a
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:40 PM
Dec 2014

change of heart and direction to take control. Worked for FDR.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
5. Did you forget the sarcasm thingie?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:39 PM
Dec 2014

Because this particular bill is designed to keep the government up and running....with some particularly nasty additions.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
14. If the things in it are that bad,
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:44 PM
Dec 2014

then the POTUS should veto it even if it shuts the gov't down and hang the people responsible for the debacle out to dry. Right? Leadership

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
18. Well, I happen to agree.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014

But I don't think we have any "leadership" (btw one of the awful things in the bill is putting taxpayers back on the hook if the banks blow up the economy again).

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
37. The WH and a few Wall Street Execs was calling around to get Dems to vote for this monstrosity. n/t
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 11:54 AM
Dec 2014

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
7. My sentiments, exactly, Senator Sanders.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:47 PM
Dec 2014

Not only that, Bernie, but they can't wait to get involved in a new war.

And they can't wait to cut social security and medicare.

Scott6113

(56 posts)
9. Bernie Sounds like
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:17 PM
Dec 2014

The few bubbles that rose to the surface after the Titanic sank. It has happened. The only way back is revolution, but the public is too compliant. Let them suffer greater privation, and it will rise up as anger. Until then, what's on Netflix streaming?

sendero

(28,552 posts)
27. Unfortunately...
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 08:32 AM
Dec 2014

... also this.

Americans are asleep at the wheel but maybe they will wake up when their pensions are raided and they can't even afford cat food.

Response to Scott6113 (Reply #9)

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
16. I have called his office periodically to urge him to switch to the Democratic party.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:06 PM
Dec 2014

I may call again soon.

Response to hifiguy (Reply #11)

Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #17)

florida08

(4,106 posts)
26. What's disgusting
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 08:16 AM
Dec 2014

Is Obama worked against Nancy Pelosi who was telling her caucus not to support it. Both the VP and BO called house dems to pressure them to vote for it after it was pulled yesterday. He threw us and Nancy under the bus. This bill gives Wall St free reign to bet and lose and we have to cover the loss.
It attacks pensions etc. I feel completely betrayed. I hope they impeach him.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
34. Dammit! I want Bernie for President!
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:45 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)

Even though he is "independent", he is like the Democratic Party that I grew up with.

hueymahl

(2,495 posts)
35. Thanks Obama, Reid and all our "Democratic" leaders!
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 08:41 AM
Dec 2014

At least we are getting, um, what was that again, more parkland? See, that is great, because when the next round of folks become homeless, they will have somewhere to go!

IronLionZion

(45,438 posts)
36. A lot of DUers want less Democrats in Congress
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 09:49 AM
Dec 2014

since those pesky red state moderate dems are the problem. Makes you wonder what the tea party has in store for us next year.

38. Why don't you ever filibuster anything Sen. Sanders?
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 12:42 AM
Dec 2014

It's nice that Sen. Sanders alerts everyone, but why no filibuster? Dammit if you and Senator Warren feel this is so bad, you could have stopped it but you didn't. You never do. Until you do, please don't run for President. It's almost as if the Democrats are trying to lose.

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