Obama urges passage of more Wall Street and campaign finance DEregulation.

[woo me with science]

Don't miss this new kick in the head to the nation from the corporatocracy. Go to this important thread by hedda_foil:

The Hill:Obama backs 'cromnibus' ahead of vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025944988

Torturers are patriots, and Wall Street needs more help to loot the country.

[SidDithers]

1. Kick...nt

Sid

[msanthrope]

2. The alternative is a government shutdown. What would you have the President do? Since

he doesn't have a line item veto...are you suggesting he vetoes the entirety?

I don't like the cromnibus, so I'd love to hear from you as to what you would do?

[Scuba]

8. Yes, call them out and force their hand ...

"As President, I'm not going to stand by while a corrupt Congress allows Wall Street to loot the pension plans of working Americans. They're threatening to shut down the government if I veto this bill. Well, that's on them."

[msanthrope]

10. I like that in theory...but shutdowns tend to affect workers and other people who

rely on benefits. I am hoping that the Dem Caucus can do something.

[joshcryer]

11. Shutdowns are wildly popular with the "let it burn" folks.

[msanthrope]

13. Well...generally those folks don't have anything going on that the shutdown affects.

But....I bet if I explain to my Repub relatives that their tax refund check will be late if the government shuts down right now...they'll get it.

[joshcryer]

14. Nevermind that it's mostly silly.

It's complaining for the sake of complaining, whining for no rational reason whatsoever. I explain why it's stupid to be "upset" about it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5946424

[msanthrope]

15. Well...I'm all for the Dems making a stand in the chambers if they can.

I'm not for shutdown over this, though.

[joshcryer]

16. Absolutely, Sherrod Brown and Vitter are making noise.

But to act as if Obama has committed yet another ultimate and evil betrayal by supporting it is silliness. It doesn't change anything substantively.

[Scuba]

17. If it didn't "change anything substantively" then CitiBank wouldn't have written the bill.

[joshcryer]

18. Why not?

It lets their investors breath a sigh of relief.

It does not guarantee a future bailout.

And if there was a future bailout the section they got changed would have been quickly legislated away. As it was here. On a rider. On an omnibus continuation bill. It's a little win for Citibank, it's not anything worth freaking out about.

Understand how the world works and stop being fed by every minute outrage.

[RiverLover]

19. This is like listening to a republican debate the pros of this anti-American bill.

I'm stunned. And obviously, I agree that you're wrong. Your words show you to be on the side of unregulated banks playing fast & loose with taxpayers money to back any losses, and risking crashing our economy again. You also have no problem with banking lobbyists writing legislation for "our elected reps."

Can you get more RW?

But its good to know the other side's POV.

[joshcryer]

21. Where did I say anything good about it?

Quote me.

You don't need to be insulting, though that tends to be the last refuge of scoundrels, insulting people because they have nothing else to add to the conversation.

If there was a need for a bailout, then the section preventing a bailout would be legislated away. It really is that simple. That's how the world works, you don't have to like it. This is much like that NSA defunding bill that passed. Let's people say certain things, but changes nothing.

[RiverLover]

22. I replied to it

It lets their investors breath a sigh of relief.

It does not guarantee a future bailout.

And if there was a future bailout the section they got changed would have been quickly legislated away. As it was here. On a rider. On an omnibus continuation bill. It's a little win for Citibank, it's not anything worth freaking out about.

Understand how the world works and stop being fed by every minute outrage.

[joshcryer]

23. Yes, and that's good, how?

That's clearly bad, why should investors be able to have breathing room while the working class musters along?

If anyone needs a bailout it's the working class who would be all to eager to build infrastructural back up in this country.

You put words in my mouth and insult me for no reason.

[RiverLover]

24. Clearly, I misread your meaning & your words. Please accept my apology.

[Rex]

26. No

you didn't.

[Rex]

25. "Understand how the world works and stop being fed by every minute outrage."

"You don't need to be insulting, though that tends to be the last refuge of scoundrels, insulting people because they have nothing else to add to the conversation."

All over the road on this one.

[joshcryer]

33. How so?

Outrage politics rules the day. It's simple advice not to be misled by it.

[summerschild]

30. shut it down. I'm sick of the games.

[polichick]

3. "When someone shows you who they are...

believe them."

Maya Angelou

[woo me with science]

4. +1 Especially when they show you

over and over and over again.

A society of captives
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025927255

[hifiguy]

12. Indeed.

The Long Con is now out in the open. We now know who Obama works for, and it is Wall Street and the torture enablers, not the people.

I just feel like a schmuck that at my age I got taken in back in 2008. I really thought it might be different this time. What a chump I was.

[SomethingFishy]

5. I also noticed there was a little rider added to the bill so the folks in D.C.

won't get their legal Marijuana. It's an odd little addition in that it would protect Medical Marijuana laws from being interfered with on a federal level but also it would block D.C. from legalizing Recreational.

How this ever got attached to a budget bill is beyond me.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/budget-bill-has-silver-lining-medical

[summerschild]

31. Congress messes with DC all the time just cause they can. Nothing new.

Just meaness.

[JoePhilly]

6. So Obama signed Dodd-Frank ... but hates it. Ok.

[xchrom]

7. du rec.

[RiverLover]

9. Remember Candidate Obama? 2008~

"The last thing we can afford is four more years where no one in Washington is watching any one on Wall Street because politicians and lobbyists killed common sense regulation."

[JaneyVee]

20. Alt headline: Obama passes bill to keep feeding the poor and paying salaries.

Sure, we all hate the bill, but pretending to not know how politics works is silly.

[Demeter]

36. You know, even I am not that cynical

That was a joke, right? Because when the economy blows up (again) there won't be any salaries or charity for the poor...

[genwah]

27. It's not done yet and BTW

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[sadoldgirl]

28. This is ridiculous. I just heard on Chris Hayes

that noone admits to having inserted this issue into the bill, and
nobody defends it on either side.

This should be called out and removed. Let the repugs do it
openly, when they come back in February.

[daredtowork]

29. Conspiracy theory: Citibank Paying CIA to Keep Obama in Their Pocket

J/k...or is it?

[Nevernose]

32. The bill also cuts WIC

Because if there's one thing the Republicans have hated for decades, it's programs that help women, infants, and children.

[Logical]

34. Pure bullshit!

[woo me with science]

35. kick