I wonder ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

How many DUers would be willing to take, and share the results of, this test:

http://www.understandingprejudice.org/iat/

I offer that this test is just as valuable as any health screening, particularly for liberals/progressives.

[steve2470]

1. big kick and big rec! nt

[bigwillq]

2. I'll take it when I get home.

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I answered the first set of basic bio information questions, but when I clicked on "take the test", it said I need to install adobe plug-in something or other, and I don't have access to do that on this work computer.

[marym625]

4. exactly what I was about to post

[Xyzse]

3. I did.

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It is found here:
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html

I got:
"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American. "

Thing though, I feel like the test was slightly off. When they do some of the categories, the last part which does the quick input I felt was a bit odd. I mean, I can understand why they do that, but when the inputing goes on a right, right or left, left button pressing, of course it gets much faster when you're pressing at the same side.

It is also done as fast as humanly possible.

However, saying that, I think it is definitely enlightening.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. Thanks; but please do me the personal favor of deleting the DU link in your post ...

it subjects folks to this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=108177

[Xyzse]

14. Ah, you're right. Sorry about that.

I did that test when I saw it in that link, so that's why I referenced it proving that I did it before.

[Xyzse]

27. By the way, I tried the test again using your link and got this instead:

Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

Since I do mine as fast as possible, I think part of it really is how the randomizing factor of the pictures affects the clicking and how good your attention span is at the moment.

[gollygee]

5. I'll rec this now

but I have to find something that does flash before I can take it. I use an ipad.

[daleanime]

51. +1

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

6. I assume you mean the race one.

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

The table below shows the percentage of other online test takers receiving various test results, so you can compare yourself with other people. Your results have been corrected for the order in which you performed the dual category associations.

Test Result % of Test Takers
Strong automatic preference for White people 48%
Moderate automatic preference for White people 13%
Slight automatic preference for White people 12%
Little or no automatic preference 12%
Slight automatic preference for Black people 6%
Moderate automatic preference for Black people 4%
Strong automatic preference for Black people 6%

Although I don't understand exactly how it measured my 'bias'. I vaguely assume it has to do with the few errors I made.

[bravenak]

37. I find that surprising.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

48. Hmmm

That I lean AA or that it was only slight?

At a guess, given that I'm a cynical, often pessimistic kind of person, I tend to lean to the negative, and virtually every BIG negative news story involves mainly white folks, barring the occasional Colin Powell or Condaleeza Rice. So I maybe get a bit more negative towards other white folks, and not as much towards AA? Just a guess, though.

[bravenak]

49. That it is only slight.

You usually run my way on many issues. But, I haven't taken the test. I might be a slight too. Never know.
You pretty much summed it up.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

50. Well, I can't remember exactly, but

a few of the white faces sorts looked military/police to me, and that might have been where I misclicked a couple of times and put them under 'bad' rather than 'white'. Still guessing, I'd have to actually see my results in a lot more detail to know what got me shoved across. But remember, I should probably start with a 'white bias', given that I grew up in a whitebread part of the country and am ever more white when I look in the mirror. (I 'went grey' in my 30s, and at 45, I look at least 55 or even older...)

Also, this is supposed to be subconscious. I'm consciously aware of some of my own biases, but other times I still do have to consciously impose a more race-neutral filter, especially when I'm trying to evaluate a new situation in terms of degree of racism inherent in a system or structure. And sometimes I still miss it, until someone who lives it every day points it out. Heck, honestly, there are even a few places where it still seems to me people are trying to insert race where it doesn't play a role, but I try to keep my mouth shut when it seems like that, because, again, I figure I'm still operating under the racial filters I was socially programmed with as I grew up. If I grew up in a more multicultural part of the country, it might have been stronger.

[HappyMe]

7. I have a moderate preference for AA over EA.

It said my result falls into 4% of those taking the test.

[etherealtruth]

8. Hurt my wrists to take this

The results indicate that I show a "slight automatic preference for European American compared to African Americans" ... it makes sense to me. I am a 52 year old white woman born in (then) extremely segregated Metro Detroit.

As much as I know bias and prejudice are wrong .... it is work to overcome the messages one receives from a racist society. I am a work in progress, and understand it takes work to do the right thing.

(sorry I couldn't read the entire interpretation of results, as I hit "some key" and lost the page ... would have had to do it over ... it made my wrists hurt .... but I am sure the results indicated a slight preference before I found my self at the beginning)

On edit: I did the gender one as well, Your data suggest little or no association between Male and Female with CAREER and FAMILY.

[True Blue Door]

9. Tried, but some of the questions are too nebulous.

Like "How strongly do you associate ______ with ______?"

Are they asking what I feel, or what I think? What I feel about what I think? What I think about what I feel? What I think society associates one thing with another?

Like, for instance, this question: "How strongly do you associate career and family with males and females?"

Career and family? What if I don't associate career with family? How can I then associate them as a combined subject? And what kind of careers? And what is meant by family? In addition to the other ambiguities already mentioned. Are they asking if I'd prefer a career woman, or just whether I expect a woman to have a career? Or are they asking what I perceive society's position on these things to be? Is 'family' meant to imply children, domesticity, or just any kind of long-term commitment?

I could try to pick an answer spontaneously, but I'm pretty sure I'd just be guessing - like always filling in 'B' on a multiple choice.

[cyberswede]

18. Those questions are just the intro - and they're optional...

the test shows words and photos - I don't think you got that far.

[True Blue Door]

22. Oh. Then I'll keep going and see.

[True Blue Door]

26. "Moderate association of Male with Career and Female with Family."

I have to question the methodology of the test though, particularly since they put the Male/Career vs. Female/Family tasks before the Female/Career vs. Male/Family tasks. They're somewhat training you to make the prior associations when you start the second half of the test with the reverse order.

[jwirr]

11. I am white but got a slight preference for African Americans. I suspect that has to do with family

members who are black and a strong feeling for all those who suffer from injustice.

[DeadLetterOffice]

52. I wondered about that too.

From a methodological point of view, I'd like to see if results are basically the same distribution if they do the pairings in the reverse order. My brain, at least, has a hard time unlearning associations once they're made. Although maybe that's the point... Still, I think it'd be interesting.

[1StrongBlackMan]

12. Guess what my results were? ...

[etherealtruth]

20. Are you going to share?

[1StrongBlackMan]

28. Strong automatic preference towards towards AA ...

color me shocked.

[etherealtruth]

33. Obviously, personal experience plays majorly into this

I also wonder what the roles of our family of origin play (not addressing the obvious, ie NOT our family's views but rather how we are imprinted with who is the source of our nurture ... who is "beautiful" to us especially during our pre-verbal ages), subtle media and entertainment portrayals, demographics (related to where we live).


I am sure this all plays a role ... I wonder how significant, what negates what ... what serves to amplify what ....?

[bravenak]

38. I don't have flash.

[cyberswede]

13. Mine

Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

Is it based on how long it takes to click between the words and the images? I thought I was clicking fairly evenly.

Thanks!

[Glassunion]

15. It was interesting.

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

[Arkansas Granny]

16. Here are my results:

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American.

[whatchamacallit]

17. I tried but I'm on an iPad and it requires Flash

I'll give it a go when I'm at my computer.

[Sweet Freedom]

19. Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between AA and EA. /nt

[ismnotwasm]

21. Hmm

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

Well well. I would suggest I like well rounded multi-ethnic and multi-racial people interactions/friendships. In all honesty, given my life's journey, this result is true.

First time I've been on my PC in quite a while, Thank you 1StrongBlackMan!

[DeadLetterOffice]

23. That was depressing.

I came back with a moderate preference for white people over AA people, and a moderate association of men with careers and women with family.

I'm a white middle aged woman, so it's not a surprise exactly, but I'm also a left-wing feminist, so, you know, boo me.

I didn't make mistakes, so I think at least part of their algorithm must include how long it takes you to pick a category.

I also learned that my brain, once taught that "left = x," does not wish to be told that "left now = y." I knew I didn't like change, now I have proof, lol.

Thanks for sharing. it was... enlightening.

[seveneyes]

24. Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American

The hardest part was remembering which sleeve I put the hay or straw in.

[Iggo]

25. I'll give it a shot when I get home. 'Til then, K&R.

[UglyGreed]

29. K/R thank you

very interesting

[bettyellen]

30. kick to try later, thanks Mr Strong!

[Delphinus]

31. My results:

Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for European American compared to African American: 13%.

For the Gender test:
Your data suggest a strong association of Male with CAREER and Female with FAMILY compared to Female with CAREER and Male with FAMILY: 40%.

[Bluenorthwest]

32. Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American

Which makes sense considering my life has lots of very positive African American and European American (as well as non American black and white and other) elements but almost all of the negative elements are on the Euro side of things. Those who have caused me harm, white. Those who have protected me from harm, both white and black. I've been hired by both but only fired by whites. And so on.
I will say that last part had me nervous, I did a study at a university for a friend which involved that very fast, changing buttons thing featuring math and my results were about the same as a chicken pecking randomly at a keyboard would get.

[helpmetohelpyou]

34. result

Moderate automatic preference for White people 13%

Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for European American compared to African American.

[bigwillq]

35. Me on Race

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

[bigwillq]

36. Me on Gender

Your data suggest a slight association of Male with CAREER and Female with FAMILY compared to Female with CAREER and Male with FAMILY.

[AnalystInParadise]

39. My race answers

exactly what i thought:

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. [strike]Yeah, I'll bet. ...[/strike]

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I've seen too many of your posts.

My apology. My comment is/was inappropriate.

[AnalystInParadise]

41. Right....

your personal biases are a strong indicator that it might be you that has a problem with other people, not me. You asked for people to take your test, we took it, and you seem inclined to tell say that people are being dishonest because they don't fit your pre-conceived notions of what they think. Interesting, do you often call people liars for no reason at all, or is just your prejudices at work?

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. [strike]Yeah, ok. eom.[/strike]

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My apology. My comment is/was inappropriate.

[octoberlib]

42. Slight automatic preference for AA

[treestar]

43. result

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American.

I did get the point, though maybe it had to do with right vs left brain, but it was more awkward to keep track of when they switched sides! We are more automatically programmed than we think.

[joshcryer]

47. Yeah, muscle memory kicked in for me, quick.

I think they must do some error correction though as I can't see how they could arrive at any result with the errors I was making. It may be based on the speed as opposed to accuracy of responding.

[ancianita]

44. Moderate automatic preference for black people. Pretty much how I see myself.

Interesting.

[joshcryer]

46. Slight automatic preference for White people

Interesting test, I thought I was much more biased with how bad I was messing up when it changed the pattern. I guess it factors in error somehow.

[F4lconF16]

53. I took that a while ago

And got a strong preference for europeans. Then I took it again and got a moderate preference for AAs. It makes a big difference depending on how it's laid out and how much attention you're paying, as both times I took it I was in the middle of cooking dinner, and was watching sauce on the stove. If you take it, make sure you take focus on what you're doing, or your data is useless, as mine is. I need to take it again.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

54. will take the gender one later ... results for race say =

Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

Test Result % of Test Takers
Strong automatic preference for White people 48%
Moderate automatic preference for White people 13%
Slight automatic preference for White people 12%
Little or no automatic preference 12%
Slight automatic preference for Black people 6%
Moderate automatic preference for Black people 4%
Strong automatic preference for Black people 6%

[JustAnotherGen]

55. Kick!

I came up no preference!