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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn 10 years who will effectively control Cuba?
1. Communist government.
2. Some other kind of government.
3. The Cuban people.
4. Corporations.
5. Other.
Bonus question: 20 years?
PCIntern
(25,591 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)CatWoman
(79,302 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)They already run the US.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)(I have more optimistic hopes)
msongs
(67,453 posts)castros. after cubans have some freedoms they are currently denied, who knows what kind of group will control the island.
hopefully it will not be a sociopathic killer like Che.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)dflprincess
(28,082 posts)Hopefully, s/he will not be able to roll back the education and healthcare systems established over the last 50 years. --- Things the Cuban people did not have the last time capitalism ruled the island.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I wonder what country was doing that?
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)His casinos will be a big part of the new Cuba
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)too much.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)And continue to sell them at a profit to bourgeois teenagers.
sarisataka
(18,779 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)adirondacker
(2,921 posts)CK_John
(10,005 posts)They are under the impression they can walk in and reclaim their land. They will cause all sorts of problems and be amazed at the progress but their spite will eventually let them regain control.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)and for graphical impact, up popped on the screen multiple corporate logos of those who were all eager to get things rolling.
Short answer, number 4.
Jim Warren
(2,736 posts)Say what one might about Fidel but at least he was able to hold off for several decades the inevitable and sickening sweep of toxic pathology the "modern" world represents.
hack89
(39,171 posts)With a taste for old school toxic pathologies.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)If they weren't going to make big bucks off this, it wouldn't have happened.
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)In 20 years it will be someone a bit more liberal than Diaz Canal. But not that much. Cubans don't like rapid change from what I've seen and they don't want to lose aspects of what they have.
KinMd
(966 posts)flamingdem
(39,328 posts)that are unique and very admirable.
It's not about them being poor, it's more about the admiration one feels with how much they've done and how generous they are with little, as in, they have a lot.
This kind of article is meant to be sarcastic about foreigners who have a surprising and meaningful experience in Cuba. A human experience.
Cha
(297,716 posts)Age: 52.
Appearance: Headmaster on inspection day.
Full name: Miguel Mario Diaz-Canel Bermudez.
Occupation: The next president of Cuba.
Never heard of him. When was he elected? He wasn't. Raul Castro was.
So Raul Castro is the next Cuban president. He was already president, and on his re-election he announced that his second term would be his last.
And then, presumably, they will hold another election. In Cuba the president is elected by the National Assembly, and Castro has tipped Diaz-Canel as his successor.
What's his job now? He's just been appointed to the number-two spot first vice-president of the Council of State.
MOre..
http://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2013/feb/25/miguel-diaz-canel-next-president-cuba
flamingdem
(39,328 posts)I buy into some of their need to control the electoral process. A small part anyway. That's because when Nicaragua had open elections after the Sandinistas won - the US completely subverted the process with money to their candidates.
What freaked me out watching Cuban TV and how the heads of the party are elected is how old they are - 80s is common - soldiers who fought with Fidel - and how they'd all get the same amount of votes 650 652 653 .. so it looked ridiculous! But they have their own history, their own ways.
In LOTS of ways I felt freer in Cuba than anywhere, things are far from being controlled or repressive, it's more like a free for all!
Cha
(297,716 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)A fifth international, if you were, they'd be more likely to go for someone new and exciting like Eliecer Avila.
The old guard will be quickly swept away.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)Trump is probably foaming at the mouth right about now thinking about the potential.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Initech
(100,104 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)"This article lists political parties in Cuba. No party is permitted to campaign or endorse candidates for election, including the Communist Party. Candidates are elected on an individual referendum basis without formal party involvement, though elected assemblies predominantly consist of members of the dominant party alongside non-affiliated candidates.[1]"
There are several listed there. I'm sure you can research any other pressing concerns you may have.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)improper and reckless trading practices.
Opposition and dissent is suppressed by government force in Cuba, so stop the silly propaganda game.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)(fingers crossed)
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Trade with the USA has not done wonders for human rights in e.g. Saudi Arabia.
But sometimes dictatorships do fall, so here's hoping...
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)far more motivating, i.e. South Africa. The problem with Saudi Arabia is we've needed them too much and they have a commodity that will easily find other markets.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)You'll see
pampango
(24,692 posts)are what liberals have supported for decades. Of course, ending the trade embargo still has to get through a republican congress so don't hold your breath.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)In 20 years? Corporations...and BFEE.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)A lot of folks seem to think that the lives of Cubans will be getting much worse.
There is hope. Since lifting the trade embargo requires congressional action and congress is controlled by republicans, perhaps this 'liberal' policy will not be changed.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)librechik
(30,676 posts)just like now and going back many years
Their problem is we are starting to figure it out. Our problem is there's nothing we can do about it.