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RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 12:08 PM Dec 2014

Hillary the Inevitable? (CounterPunch)

The Coming Horror
Hillary the Inevitable?

by ANDREW LEVINE

Anything can happen in two years time. For now, though, it looks like Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.

The reasons are obvious: opposition from within the Democratic Party will be too little too late; and, on the off-chance that someone else’s candidacy actually does take off, the Party leadership, ever mindful of Wall Street’s concerns, will crush it — faster than a Massachusetts or Vermont Senator can say “Slick Willy.”

(snip)

But does anyone really want a President Hillary? Maybe a few unreconstructed Friends of Bill do, and some feminists with tunnel vision. No one else can stomach the idea.

Nevertheless, Democratic voters and unaffiliated “moderates” will acquiesce. In neoliberal times, acquiescence is what politics is all about.

(snip)


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Hillary the Inevitable? (CounterPunch) (Original Post) RufusTFirefly Dec 2014 OP
No more dynasties n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #1
She's better than Jebthro. Octafish Dec 2014 #2
Perhaps Jeb is the political equivalent of vaporware RufusTFirefly Dec 2014 #3
Idea has lot of validity. Octafish Dec 2014 #8
good analogy marions ghost Dec 2014 #10
I have a problem with that idea. Jeb isn't the worst the R's could run. rhett o rick Dec 2014 #14
Jebthro's all that with a lie-bury built into his haid. Octafish Dec 2014 #18
Or "not worse than" n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #5
She has been "Inevitable" before. Autumn Dec 2014 #4
Absolutely true. Joe Lieberman was once inevitable. RufusTFirefly Dec 2014 #6
Not to mention Howard Dean nichomachus Dec 2014 #7
Oh, come now, Nicho! RufusTFirefly Dec 2014 #9
Acquiescence is inevitable and inspirational. JEB Dec 2014 #11
Oh, god, I hope not. SheilaT Dec 2014 #12
The GREEDY BASTARDS Thespian2 Dec 2014 #13
Feminists with tunnel vision? Hill-billy? Am I on DU or Free Republic? Metric System Dec 2014 #15
Sometimes I wonder nichomachus Dec 2014 #16
She's hoping the Republicans will run a candidate that she can claim to be "not as bad" as. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #17
That's why I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm tired of acquiescing. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #19

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. She's better than Jebthro.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014

Still, wouldn't it be neat to actually have a candidate who put the needs of the People ahead of the desires of Wall Street and War Inc?

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
3. Perhaps Jeb is the political equivalent of vaporware
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:35 PM
Dec 2014

If Microsoft (for example) wants to squelch the upstart efforts of a small software company, it simply announces that it will be releasing a similar, competing product in the unspecified future. That's often all it takes to convince skittish investors to pull the plug on support for the new company. The catch is that the Microsoft product is often just a phantom. Its sole purpose is to kill off competition.

The specter of Jeb could be a two-step version of this. The prospect of him as the Republican nominee convinces nervous Democrats to abandon any hopes of actually voting for someone they believe in and are excited about and to get behind the "inevitable" candidate instead.

Then, if or when Jeb decides not to run, drops out, or doesn't get the nomination, it's too late. We'll be stuck with Hillary. It's a little like the argument that often follows a fraudulent invasion: "Well, we can't just cut and run, now can we?!"

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. Idea has lot of validity.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:53 PM
Dec 2014

Ideas have a power we only now are beginning to understand. I don't believe the game's masters are sufficiently sophisticated to see how it makes commercial sense to help advertise a competing show on Opening Night. When the show's been hawked as a stinker, it may prove a great way for a sell-out on what should have been an empty house.

For me, simplicity: "A" they win. "B" we lose.

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Regarding the MS Vaporware: Spot-on. I've noticed the effect here when posters crap on FDR for the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. Instead of just poisoning our minds to FDR's great work -- from the New Deal to advancing human and civil rights -- the denigration serves to justify the current administration's work to roll back the New Deal and civil rights through the USA PATRIOT Act, NSA spy forgiveness and all the rest of the national security money trumps peace rot.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
10. good analogy
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:58 PM
Dec 2014

--the reason Hillary is supposedly "inevitable" is because she's acceptable to (elite) Repiglicons who will pretend to the base that they're against her.

No more dynasties includes Billary.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. I have a problem with that idea. Jeb isn't the worst the R's could run.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 03:21 PM
Dec 2014

I believe the Deep State Oligarchy runs the Republican Party and decides who runs. If they are ok with HRC they will run someone worse than Jeb, like Mitt, Perry, or the other nitwits they ran last election.

My fear is that they will want a Republican president and they will want Jeb. With their unlimited resources and tricks, I think they can pull it off. And if they don't they still have H. Clinton-Sachs for their fall back. Just my opinion.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. Jebthro's all that with a lie-bury built into his haid.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:23 PM
Dec 2014
Asshats tell me BFEE is a figamanent of teh imagination.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
6. Absolutely true. Joe Lieberman was once inevitable.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:49 PM
Dec 2014

Sanctimonious, neo-con policies combined with the charisma of a mothball. Even the pliable public said "no" to Joe-mentum

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. Oh, come now, Nicho!
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:57 PM
Dec 2014

Dean was an angry crazy-man, not to mention a liberal-leftist. The media saved our skin that time.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
11. Acquiescence is inevitable and inspirational.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:03 PM
Dec 2014

Not. Fukin A rich people, you are running out of petite liberal bones to throw to the masses.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. Oh, god, I hope not.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

Besides, she was inevitable in 2008, so isn't she halfway through her second term at this point?

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
13. The GREEDY BASTARDS
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

want Hilly-Billy to be the Democrats nominee. Billy was very kind to them before. They will spend much wealth to make her nomination happen. The GBs never back losers; they lose only when they are unable to steal an election. Were the string-pullers unhappy with Obama's win? Not so much. They are getting What they paid for. If Rom-ass had won, they would have gotten what they wanted, and more, faster. Why do you suppose the GBs buy both Dinos and Repukes? And why have they bought at least 22 states and countless cities? We will have had 16 years of oligarch rule, thus far, and the Ollies want to see it continue for another 8 years after '16. The only problem with their planning would be if Bernie Sanders got the Dem nomination. Then the GBs would have to work even harder to steal the election. They have failed twice and don't want that to happen again. Check out their work on changing the electoral college so that only a Repuke will have a chance.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
16. Sometimes I wonder
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:20 PM
Dec 2014

With the attitude of anything anyone does is right, as long as they have a D after their name. If an R person does it, it's despicable. If a D person does the same thing, it's just OK.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
17. She's hoping the Republicans will run a candidate that she can claim to be "not as bad" as.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:26 PM
Dec 2014

And, the endurance of noses of liberal/leftists.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
19. That's why I'm not a Democrat anymore. I'm tired of acquiescing.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
Dec 2014

Democrats may acquiesce and Hillary may be inevitable, but she will have to do it without my vote. If Bernie Sanders runs I plan on volunteering for his campaign and I have never done that before. I've never been excited enough about a candidate to volunteer before.

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