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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:58 AM

Ted Cruz: “I Can Only Laugh” When Obama, Clinton Discuss Income Inequality Since They Made It Worse

Ted Cruz: “I Can Only Laugh” When Obama, Clinton Discuss Income Inequality Since They Made It Worse

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/ted-cruz-i-can-only-laugh-when-obama-clinton-discuss-income#.wf5bJlQ0J

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“And income inequality — you know, I have to admit, I can only laugh any time President Obama or Hillary Clinton talk about income inequality, because it’s increased dramatically under their administration.”


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Reply Ted Cruz: “I Can Only Laugh” When Obama, Clinton Discuss Income Inequality Since They Made It Worse (Original post)
applegrove Dec 2014 OP
applegrove Dec 2014 #1
spanone Dec 2014 #2
applegrove Dec 2014 #3
daredtowork Dec 2014 #4
Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #5
brentspeak Dec 2014 #6
AndreaCG Dec 2014 #10
Boreal Dec 2014 #11
Karmadillo Dec 2014 #18
JaneyVee Dec 2014 #19
okaawhatever Dec 2014 #24
raouldukelives Dec 2014 #45
Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #7
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #8
okaawhatever Dec 2014 #25
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #31
woo me with science Dec 2014 #9
RiverLover Dec 2014 #14
sendero Dec 2014 #20
SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #22
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #32
pampango Dec 2014 #12
RiverLover Dec 2014 #16
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #33
TBF Dec 2014 #38
Boreal Dec 2014 #13
CBGLuthier Dec 2014 #15
okaawhatever Dec 2014 #27
Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #34
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #21
laundry_queen Dec 2014 #23
joshcryer Dec 2014 #30
laundry_queen Dec 2014 #36
joshcryer Dec 2014 #37
laundry_queen Dec 2014 #40
joshcryer Dec 2014 #41
laundry_queen Dec 2014 #42
joshcryer Dec 2014 #46
laundry_queen Dec 2014 #48
joshcryer Dec 2014 #49
phleshdef Dec 2014 #44
joshcryer Dec 2014 #47
JI7 Dec 2014 #26
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #35
BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #28
DBoon Dec 2014 #29
Rex Dec 2014 #39
pampango Dec 2014 #43

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:04 AM

1. And psychopaths will try to set things up to be connected. Watch this meme

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play out. Inequality started with Reagan with union declines. The genie inequality coefficient put the USA between Russia and Mexico on equality before Obama got elected. The banking crisis made inequality worse and in no way was Obamas fault. But Cruz gently sorta, kinda, gently implies it was Obamas policies that increased inequality. The synapses of the base will make the implied connection. And Cruz is done.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:33 AM

2. he wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on his...

ass

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Response to spanone (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:41 AM

3. No he is crazy like a fox. He knows exactly what the truth is. He just consistantly

chooses to lie. That is how much contempt he has for Americans.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:46 AM

4. The one word reply is: TEXAS

Yeah, Texas is a utopia of reducing income inequality....

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:52 AM

5. I can only laugh

when TC discusses anything political period.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:57 AM

6. In truth, Obama, Hillary, AND Ted Cruz have contributed to income inequality

All three are eager tools of Wall Street.

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:31 AM

10. Yes they're exactly the same.

Thank you for clearing that up for me Mr Nader.

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:41 AM

11. This

 

And I think Cruz's wife works or worked for Goldman Sachs.

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:33 AM

18. Please do not post facts that interfere with our illusions. Thank you.

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Response to brentspeak (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:15 PM

19. Who is voting no on raising wages and equal pay while gutting unions?

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:22 PM

24. +100 nt

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #19)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:58 AM

45. Anyone who invests in Wall St.

They are providing material support for those aligned against open & honest democracy for all people.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:58 AM

7. Cruz is a world class liar.

And only very ignorant people are not already aware of that.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:02 AM

8. Did I miss voting for Hillary? Didn't know she has had an administration, OK, Ted guess again.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:22 PM

25. I noticed that too. Obviously worried about her running in 2016. nt

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Response to okaawhatever (Reply #25)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:41 PM

31. because she kicks HIS ass in polls!

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:02 AM

9. Both parties are deliberately making it worse.


Both parties are firmly burrowed headfirst into the pockets of Wall Street.

Parties that actually cared about income inequality and the welfare of Americans would not be twisting arms to pass more deregulation of Wall Street and gunning to pass the TPP, as corporate Democrats and this president have been and are doing.

This is what the propaganda machine does: herd us into our parties, so that we will rally around and defend our guys when they are doing their part to loot this nation into the ground.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:32 AM

14. Yep, divide & conquer has been working like a charm. nt

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:44 PM

20. Exactly..

... as for as unemployment benefits and such, the Democrats are are better.

But as far as ENABLING Wall Street and the banksters to loot with impunity, the Democrats are every bit as bad as the Republicans, maybe worse.

To root for Team A like they are so much the solution to our problems compared to Team B shows a lot of ignorance. And it is getting us no where, the tiny half-measure regulation called Dodd-Frank is already being dismantled with a lot of help from Democrats and signed by a Democratic president. Pathetic.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:16 PM

22. Yep... people are slowly waking up..

and the truth is the left has just as hard a time breaking away from the status quo in their party as the right does.

You can see things slowly turning, people on both sides are looking for a populist candidate. The only question is.. how long will it take and will it be too late?

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:42 PM

32. No he hasn't...

 

the lies on DU are as bad as those from Ted's mouth!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:05 AM

12. Charts of income inequality since 1929:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ray-brescia/reducing-income-inequalit_b_764477.html

Both show terrible inequality by 1929, vast improvement under FDR, decades of stability thereafter then a worsening.

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Response to pampango (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:35 AM

16. Thank you. Facts are facts.

We could really use an FDR right now. Someone like E Warren.

Not Ted Cruz though. {{shudder}}

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:42 PM

33. or her friend who IS running Hillary Clinton!

 

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Response to pampango (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:18 AM

38. Goes up w/Reagan -

because he drastically cut capital gains taxes. And continues to rise. Gee, wonder why.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:14 AM

13. I laughed at Ted Cruz

 

when he recently appeared before a group of middle eastern Christians and told them they must support Israel. They all started yelling, "Stop it, stop it!" and "Get out of here!", haha, he had to leave the venue. Now THAT was funny.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 08:34 AM

15. OMG, Ted Cruz is half right. Never thought I would live so long

Clinton sure did play a part by signing NAFTA.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:24 PM

27. He was referring to Hillary, who has not had an administration. He was trying to make people

think "Obama" when they heard "Hillary" in 2016.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:20 AM

17. His wife is a managing director at Goldman Sachs.

 

So. There's that.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:44 PM

34. So? Is she to be tarred and feathered for having a career before she became a politician?

 

what if politicians were lawyers before politics? Oh wait....

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:04 PM

21. He means it's increased dramatically since Republicans took the House of Representatives

and obstructed every single aspect of the President's agenda. And he's proud of it. Repugnant little worm.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:41 PM

23. I knew this would happen

It's just happening sooner than I thought.

Republicans are going to start down the populist route for the 2016 election. Democrats have neglected to campaign on populism, and the republicans are not going to miss an opportunity to take that from them. Add to that the coziness of Democrats will Wall Street and they will be in real trouble here if this is something all republicans run with.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:43 PM

30. Democrats have not "neglected" income inequality.

It's a core plank of the platform.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #30)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 11:23 PM

36. If you say so.

You know people aren't stupid right? They can see the coziness to wall street. Democrats can put whatever they like on their 'platform' but no action means people stop believing them. That's what happening now. No one believes them anymore. Republicans will take advantage of this because that's what they always do.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:16 AM

37. Get back congress.

Until then, your only actions are to minimize the damage caused.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #37)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:44 AM

40. Just like business

the tone at the top matters. That's what people listen to. People will vote Democrats into a majority in the house when they are happy with Democratic party leaders' actions. Or when they are fed up with Republicans governing like '08. You can take your pick as to which scenario you would prefer to precede a Democratic majority in the house.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #40)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:05 AM

41. You pose a no win scenario.

I'd rather we just take back congress and stop shitting on Democrats.

The Republicans are much more unified than the Democrats, that's why they keep winning.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #41)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:52 AM

42. The reason there's any shitting

is because Democrats refuse to do what is necessary to take back power. Let's get this straight: it's not because people are shitting on the Democrats that they cannot take back Congress. The reason the Democrats cannot take back congress is because they have moved so far to the right, have become so distanced from a populist message that voters have become apathetic. They don't feel anyone is there for THEM. Those of us who can see this, do the shitting. It's not a chicken or egg question in the least. Democrats have been talking one game and acting on another for some time now. People are starting to realize this. I criticize because I want to see them succeed. I want to see them win, and FOLLOW THROUGH on their promises. Or at least fight tooth and nail to follow through.

The ONE REASON Republicans win is because they have a strong message and they stand behind it. Rarely do you see a republican waffling in public about core conservative principles. Democrats need better party whips and fast. And they need a populist message. If the republicans are able to get out a populist message and stand behind it as fervently as they do their idiotic other stances, Democrats will have a slim chances of winning the House and Senate again in my lifetime.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #42)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:06 AM

46. What stances do the Republicans have to take power?

Oh, nothing, they just vote together, they're unified, and they don't shit on each other.

Really. That's all it takes for the Republicans to be so powerful and to have held congress for the past half decade. That's it!

The Democrats were at a disadvantage because the Republicans gerrymandered the districts together. It doesn't help that people like yourself say that Democrats are DINOs (in effect) and suggest that no one should vote for them. The gerrymandering is the key reason Democrats have had difficulty winning districts.

The Republicans don't have a "strong message." It's all over the fucking place. The Republicans are merely able to pander to single issue voters more effectively, because their base doesn't shit on itself like Democrats do. Many Republican voters are for social things like Medicare and Social Security, but they vote against their interests because the Republicans are liars. Indeed, they won in 2010 actually claiming that the Democrats were creating "catfood comissions." And liberals repeated the Republican talking points.

Hillary Clinton will usher in a sweep of the states in 2016 and by 2020 we should have a good chance of cementing Democrats for generations to come. Bookmark this statement. Your negative attitude toward Democrats and defeatist attitude carrying water for Republicans won't change this outcome. Demographics are one way. The white, right wing, selfish, boomer generation doesn't have much time left in this world.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #46)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:23 AM

48. Disagree with a few things.

Republicans do so have a strong message compared to the Democrats. Their main message? They are against Democrats. Whereas Dems are always trying to play the whole 'we're friends' thing with Republicans. People see that as weakness.

I do agree with gerrymandering. But who talks about it? No one. Why are Democrats not screaming from the rooftops?

I strongly disagree with your assertion that liberals are helping Republicans. I think it's the go-along-to-get-along gang that is the problem. And of course Republicans are liars. And the Democrats rarely stand up and say, "you're lying." They allow them to get away with it.

I will bookmark your statement, because I think it's way off. Hillary may win, but nothing else you say will happen. The boomer generation may be on its way out, but people are people and most are easily manipulated, which is what Republicans do best. I wouldn't count on demographics to win it for you.

Look, I'm a Canadian and I have seen what it takes for the left to win. Strong stances, media blitzes, hard campaigning, solid message. Democrats have done the opposite. And you insist that is how they will win, because demographics. I think that is hopelessly lazy and dangerous. A lot more is needed than that. And to blame the left is absolutely the death knell of the party, IMO. I always find it ironic those who shout 'unity!' are also those who constantly attack the base of the party. Ça fait pas d'bon sens.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #48)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:32 AM

49. The Dems don't want to be weak, by claiming a disadvantage.

It would be weak of them to complain that they lost the majority of elections due to gerrymandering, because that's how it is, they didn't have the local districts, they couldn't write the maps. Only in severe cases can Democrats really rebuff the district lines, and in those cases the courts have overruled the Republicans. In some cases it would be good to advocate for CA-like computer generated disricting, but that is a 2020 battle, and isn't relevant to current politics. Indeed, you got to actually elect people to fight for that in 2020, if you don't, then the gerrymandering continues!

As far as being a Canadian, I don't discount your opinion, but I do take umbrage with Canadians who have consistently elected right wingers in the past few years, bashing the US, whose top leaders are doing great liberal things. This especially repulsive when Canada is so far removed from the UK and AU and shouldn't be trending toward the politics in those countries, but somehow, it manages to do so.

The US is capitalist. It makes me shake my head when people bash capitalistic approaches to things. They will happen. It's not going away, no major candidate is going to bash capitalism. It's just how it is. Capitalism, as a single issue, is far and away the least important thing to the American people. It's a joke.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #36)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:24 AM

44. The ONLY true progressives in Congress are either Democrats or at least part of the Dem caucus.

 

No, the entire party isn't always on the right side, but the only people that are, are part of the party.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #44)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:11 AM

47. The progressive caucus makes up 2/3rds of the Democrats.

People shitting on Democrats need to reassess their priorities.

Importantly, the progressives can convince the more blue dog Democrats to vote for good issues, as they did on the ACA and DADT, etc. Of course, when the democrats overwhelmingly voted for the ACA, the ACA was deemed a Republican project. When the democrats overwhelmingly voted to shut down DADT, the credit went to the log cabin Republicans. Yes, these things happened.

The Republicans are brilliant, amazing, at appropriating good progressive things, and turning it against democrats.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:23 PM

26. people on here have said the same shit

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Response to JI7 (Reply #26)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 07:45 PM

35. Yes and they continue to spread the lies far and wide...just like Ted Cruz does...

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:34 PM

28. Does that mean he cares?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:38 PM

29. And did you know that Sony pictures was hacked on Obama's watch

Proof that Ted Cruz will fix THAT one too.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:18 AM

39. Liars and their fucking inability to tell the truth.

 

Cruz missile gets away with lying all day, because we have a lazy media that loves to support republicans.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:12 AM

43. Since income inequality seems to be a function of regressive taxes, weak unions, a porous safety net

and weak corporate regulations, how does Mr. Cruz propose to improve income equality?

To deal with the causes the government would have to raise taxes on the rich, legislatively empower unions, fund an effective safety net and impose tight regulations on corporations. My guess is that Mr. Cruz and his fellow republicans would not exactly be falling over each other to endorse such "FDR/socialist" policies.

I can 'only laugh' when a republican poses as a friend of the working person and in favor of income equality.

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