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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:25 PM Dec 2014

'Bing Bang Theory's' Kaley Cuoco Doesn't Consider Herself Feminist

Don't call Kaley Cuoco a feminist. The "Big Bang Theory" star spoke about equality in an interview with Redbook for the magazine's February 2015 issue. When asked if she considers herself a feminist, she responded in the negative.

"Is it bad if I say no?" she asked. "It's not really something I think about. Things are different now, and I know a lot of the work that paved the way for women happened before I was around ... I was never that feminist girl demanding equality, but maybe that's because I've never really faced inequality."

She then went on to discuss the gender roles in her household with husband Ryan Sweeting, whom she married in a surprise ceremony on New Year's Eve last year after a whirlwind romance. "I cook for Ryan five nights a week: It makes me feel like a housewife; I love that. I know it sounds old-fashioned, but I like the idea of women taking care of their men. I'm so in control of my work that I like coming home and serving him. My mom was like that, so I think it kind of rubbed off."

Cuoco, 29, is currently one of the highest-paid actresses on television after inking a three-year contract with CBS for $1 million per episode for Seasons 8 through 10 of "The Big Bang Theory." "All I think about is what it means for my family … and knowing there is security for all of us," she told Redbook. Adding: "I remember always hoping I could help take care of [my parents] because they took such good care of me. Knowing I'll be able to just brings tears to my eyes." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/kaley-cuoco-feminist_n_6396208.html

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'Bing Bang Theory's' Kaley Cuoco Doesn't Consider Herself Feminist (Original Post) big_dog Dec 2014 OP
... Kali Dec 2014 #1
good grief, what happened to her hair! big_dog Dec 2014 #6
It appears she has cut it. bigwillq Dec 2014 #8
too bad, she had such beautiful long hair big_dog Dec 2014 #10
Her hair did look nice long, like in this pic (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #12
Good thing she doesn't wear her hair to please you, then. cyberswede Dec 2014 #18
I think she's adorable.. sendero Dec 2014 #47
oh thank god she's not a feminist NuclearDem Dec 2014 #56
You have me wondering why I don't watch this show. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #100
why do you post such idiotic fluffy semi-misogynistic bullshit all the time? Kali Dec 2014 #11
+1,000,000,000 Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #13
consistently. thank you kali. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #19
Thank you. nt DURHAM D Dec 2014 #20
'cause if it's fluffy, one can claim ignorance? cyberswede Dec 2014 #22
obvious to many. oblivious to others. yes. seabeyond Dec 2014 #23
I don't think he's TRYING to be sneaky about it tkmorris Dec 2014 #26
btw, the obvious misogyny gets juried hide or locked by skinner. hence, seabeyond Dec 2014 #24
Her attitude and her hair are her choice. I think her short hair Autumn Dec 2014 #27
Agree on both counts. 840high Dec 2014 #45
FFS! Jamastiene Dec 2014 #33
Oh get out with this misogynistic TMZ bullshit. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #50
It is her choice!!!!! Why so negative? yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #49
I don't give a flying fuck about some tee vee actor Kali Dec 2014 #54
Obviously it is very important because you are here yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #55
A famous woman's opinion on feminism is not a relevant discussion for GD? Autumn Dec 2014 #60
did i miss something? she really did not say a lot more in the article. seems to be, seabeyond Dec 2014 #63
Well I am not the OP yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #65
"Cooking dinner for hubby" was not the main focus Autumn Dec 2014 #68
My reactions are to the focus of the OP, not so much the article, Kali Dec 2014 #70
+1. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #71
cooking dinner for our family has nothing to do with feminism. most people do not own the title seabeyond Dec 2014 #61
She raised an issue treestar Dec 2014 #76
I like cooking for my husband RockaFowler Dec 2014 #2
I love cooking for my wife (and do so most days). While I don't think I love it enough KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #92
A perfect match wheniwasincongress Dec 2014 #3
Good for her. bigwillq Dec 2014 #4
Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2014 #9
Sad. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #5
why did you repost the entire OP with a face palm? Doctor_J Dec 2014 #44
sometimes when this OP poster gets an inkling of shame (or some signal that he has crossed the line) Kali Dec 2014 #75
Thanks Kali. NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #112
Her attitude actually would be the ultimate goal of feminism in that wouldnt it be nice randys1 Dec 2014 #7
+1. historylovr Dec 2014 #17
there are many feminists who like to cook for their husband JI7 Dec 2014 #14
It is not about the cooking. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #36
I get the point and her not getting it JI7 Dec 2014 #42
Sure, but you know it was the way she framed it: Laffy Kat Dec 2014 #96
The perfect casting for Penny. mmonk Dec 2014 #15
poor Sheldon had his chances big_dog Dec 2014 #16
Can't stand that show minivan2 Dec 2014 #89
It would only be sarisataka Dec 2014 #91
She's had a lot of success in her craft and hasn't Ilsa Dec 2014 #21
+1 cyberswede Dec 2014 #28
Yep. And as we just saw with Sony paying Amy Adams and Jennifer Lawrence less than their seaglass Dec 2014 #31
In fact, is that known ? treestar Dec 2014 #38
The main 3 characters get 1 million an episode ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #81
Interesting. treestar Dec 2014 #84
The other four have gotten more screen time as the show has gone along ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #85
My understanding is that Cuoco-Sweeting, Parsons, and Ilsa Dec 2014 #108
Thanks treestar Dec 2014 #109
Those three, and then the other two men, Ilsa Dec 2014 #110
As long as it's her choice on how to live, nothing wrong with it. Marrah_G Dec 2014 #25
I don't either, but she must think it is... cyberswede Dec 2014 #29
I think alot of younger women just don't know what feminist means Marrah_G Dec 2014 #32
exactly. she clearly states she does not know anything or even think about it. seabeyond Dec 2014 #46
I think the middle age and senior women also need to take some responsibility Marrah_G Dec 2014 #51
probably. anyone relating cooking dinner to feminism has missed the boat, one way or another. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #57
I think I will strike up the topic when my daughter is here next. Marrah_G Dec 2014 #67
lol. i have had many with all nieces, nephews and two sons. well aware where they sit on the seabeyond Dec 2014 #69
Yes. Heck my BIL likes to cook treestar Dec 2014 #78
And....?" alphafemale Dec 2014 #30
Kaley, you're a feminist... steve2470 Dec 2014 #34
She sounds like a self centered asshole. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #35
That's exactly it. She's got hers so nothing to see here. Every minority/discriminated against group stevenleser Dec 2014 #106
Sounds like a very dumb person treestar Dec 2014 #37
I like the character she plays -- who wouldn't like the working class woman who can always KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #93
Otherwise, she'd get fired from BBT. What else did you expect? alp227 Dec 2014 #39
Was just going to post same thing. n/t JimDandy Dec 2014 #58
She has a charmed life and an easy paycheck. Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #40
"Cuoco plays a blonde minstrel, a stereotype" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #87
There are no charmed lives in Hollywood Calista241 Dec 2014 #95
That makes it luck even more so treestar Dec 2014 #105
Why doesn't she stand up straight? roody Dec 2014 #41
Love her short hair. 840high Dec 2014 #43
A very eye opening thread. I'm amazed at some of the ugly comments directed at Autumn Dec 2014 #48
I think that people forget that not all generations have the same experiences Marrah_G Dec 2014 #52
Agreed sarisataka Dec 2014 #59
She has been called ignorant, a very dumb person, a self centered asshole Autumn Dec 2014 #62
I am not positive marym625 Dec 2014 #72
I think you are right treestar Dec 2014 #77
yep. marym625 Dec 2014 #79
Exactly, I don't think she's all that clear on what "feminist" means. arcane1 Dec 2014 #101
And a good opinion it is. I've seen her on a couple of talk shows and she comes across Autumn Dec 2014 #80
Thanks! marym625 Dec 2014 #83
to be honest it's because what she describes Texasgal Dec 2014 #74
My choice is I don't cook, unless my dog wants an omelette and nags me until I cook him one. Autumn Dec 2014 #86
that is funny autumn. too cute. nt seabeyond Dec 2014 #88
My wife and I came to an agreement sarisataka Dec 2014 #90
Hahaha! arcane1 Dec 2014 #102
Sort of reminds me of Michael Jordon rurallib Dec 2014 #53
welll... nice. Texasgal Dec 2014 #64
She says in the article that she likes "serving" her husband. woolldog Dec 2014 #66
She could quit her job treestar Dec 2014 #73
I really hope her husband doesn't tell her to end her career. n/t Sivafae Dec 2014 #82
Wait Until She Turns 40 AnnieBW Dec 2014 #94
Huh? Jennifer Anniston? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #97
Golden Globe Nomination. SAG Nomination. bigwillq Dec 2014 #98
Jennifer Aniston is older than me? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #99
Always good to get a little ageism in with your sexism. n/t JTFrog Dec 2014 #107
What? That was supposed to be a compliment. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #114
20+ episodes a year, for a million each episode, for the next three years. arcane1 Dec 2014 #103
HATE that show! 1step Dec 2014 #104
This quote says it all to me. hamsterjill Dec 2014 #111
Really who the cares? abakan Dec 2014 #113

sendero

(28,552 posts)
47. I think she's adorable..
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:54 PM
Dec 2014

... with long hair or short hair or whatever. And I love TBBT and have seen every episode multiple times.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
100. You have me wondering why I don't watch this show.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:40 AM
Dec 2014

In all fairness, though, the few times I did see it, I don't remember her looking like that.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. btw, the obvious misogyny gets juried hide or locked by skinner. hence,
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:13 PM
Dec 2014

"semi-misogynistic bullshit"

from day one.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
27. Her attitude and her hair are her choice. I think her short hair
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:17 PM
Dec 2014

is very attractive and frames her face beautifully.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. FFS!
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:29 PM
Dec 2014

After reading that article, all you can talk about is her looks. You are not the least bit upset that she doesn't think equality is important? She could look like the most beautiful woman in the world, but that would not change her mentality, which is worthy.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
49. It is her choice!!!!! Why so negative?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:59 PM
Dec 2014

She likes cooking for her husband and that is a crime. We are supposed to be more excepting then portrayed by some here.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
54. I don't give a flying fuck about some tee vee actor
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:12 PM
Dec 2014

I do care about constant trolling of DU with this kind of crap. Hope that explains it better.

Do you think a post about a tee vee personality cooking for her man is relevant to the DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND General Discussion?

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Autumn

(45,066 posts)
60. A famous woman's opinion on feminism is not a relevant discussion for GD?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:24 PM
Dec 2014

Cooking for her man is not the focus of the article.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
63. did i miss something? she really did not say a lot more in the article. seems to be,
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:27 PM
Dec 2014

the only reach on explaining her view on feminism was cooking for hubby.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
65. Well I am not the OP
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:29 PM
Dec 2014

Cooking dinner for hubby was a big part of the article that I commented on. I am sure there are other facts that can be commented on at your choosing.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
68. "Cooking dinner for hubby" was not the main focus
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:36 PM
Dec 2014

of the article IMO and that makes it fine for discussion in GD. Your opinion may be different

Kali

(55,007 posts)
70. My reactions are to the focus of the OP, not so much the article,
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:37 PM
Dec 2014

as I said in the Host forum. Discussion of ignorant privileged wealthy people and their ignorance is fine. Trolling is the thing I have a problem with.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
61. cooking dinner for our family has nothing to do with feminism. most people do not own the title
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:26 PM
Dec 2014

of feminism. i bet if you asked her if she believed in womens rights, she would be there.

to think feminism has anything to do with cooking for a family comes from a position of ignorance. and propaganda to create an adverse reaction to the word.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
76. She raised an issue
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:44 PM
Dec 2014

I can see the MRAs speaking up about this "choice." The man has to cooperate with either a non feminist or feminist household at the woman's choice? I decide whether I work or whether he has to support me?

But let's say it's both of them. The choice of she and her husband involves her working which doesn't make her a great not-feminist either.

Why serve her husband? It sounds unequal. Not about the cooking, but the way she talks of taking care of him. If she's not a feminist, does she think it's enough to cook him dinner? Non feminists believe she should stay home all day. She'll get critics from both sides.

She spoke up, so we get to talk about it. I suppose some people are big fans and don't want her challenged on something she said in public.

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
2. I like cooking for my husband
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:28 PM
Dec 2014

Only because when I was sick he could not cook for the life of him.

But seriously - I love to cook. My mom loves to cook till this day and she's in her 70's.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
92. I love cooking for my wife (and do so most days). While I don't think I love it enough
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:43 PM
Dec 2014

to do it as a career or full-time -- frankly, I don't think I have the stamina for a full 8-hour shift -- it has been really fun taking foods that we love to eat in restaurants and trying out the home-made versions. (For the holidays, I made a Jennie-O Turkey Ham with a brown sugar and pineapple glaze, scalloped potatoes and roasted green beans with garlic and mushrooms with a pesto accent. The ham was the big disappointment, as I don't have much experience with them and didn't leave it in the oven long enough to warm it thoroughly so that the glaze could really do its thing. The potatoes and green beans were both hits. Leftover ham went into crockpot split pea soup which I made a couple days ago and more than made up for the initial disappointment.)

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
5. Sad.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:30 PM
Dec 2014



"Bing Bang Theory's' Kaley Cuoco Doesn't Consider Herself Feminist, Likes Cooking & 'Serving' Hubby

Don't call Kaley Cuoco a feminist. The "Big Bang Theory" star spoke about equality in an interview with Redbook for the magazine's February 2015 issue. When asked if she considers herself a feminist, she responded in the negative.

"Is it bad if I say no?" she asked. "It's not really something I think about. Things are different now, and I know a lot of the work that paved the way for women happened before I was around ... I was never that feminist girl demanding equality, but maybe that's because I've never really faced inequality."

She then went on to discuss the gender roles in her household with husband Ryan Sweeting, whom she married in a surprise ceremony on New Year's Eve last year after a whirlwind romance. "I cook for Ryan five nights a week: It makes me feel like a housewife; I love that. I know it sounds old-fashioned, but I like the idea of women taking care of their men. I'm so in control of my work that I like coming home and serving him. My mom was like that, so I think it kind of rubbed off."

Cuoco, 29, is currently one of the highest-paid actresses on television after inking a three-year contract with CBS for $1 million per episode for Seasons 8 through 10 of "The Big Bang Theory." "All I think about is what it means for my family … and knowing there is security for all of us," she told Redbook. Adding: "I remember always hoping I could help take care of because they took such good care of me. Knowing I'll be able to just brings tears to my eyes." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/30/kaley-cuoco-feminist_n_6396208.html

Kali

(55,007 posts)
75. sometimes when this OP poster gets an inkling of shame (or some signal that he has crossed the line)
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:40 PM
Dec 2014

he self deletes. copying the crap may help with memory and transparency.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
7. Her attitude actually would be the ultimate goal of feminism in that wouldnt it be nice
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:30 PM
Dec 2014

if the day came when Women didnt have to think about it, they had equality no matter what.

She has lived a charmed life and appears not to understand just how bad it is and has been for others, but I dont think she is intentionally being ignorant, she just is.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
14. there are many feminists who like to cook for their husband
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:43 PM
Dec 2014

And others. Not sure what that has to do with anything

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
36. It is not about the cooking.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:33 PM
Dec 2014

The point is that she doesn't see fighting for equality as important because she doesn't have to deal with inequality. So, she is fine with leaving the rest of the women who DO face inequality behind. The cooking has really nothing to do with it. I can't understand how so many are missing the point.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
42. I get the point and her not getting it
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:45 PM
Dec 2014

The cooking was just one example. She brought it up as if one wouldn't enjoy doing that if they were a feminist.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
96. Sure, but you know it was the way she framed it:
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:20 AM
Dec 2014

"I love coming home and 'serving' my husband." It really does make me want to But, hey, that's just me.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
21. She's had a lot of success in her craft and hasn't
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:09 PM
Dec 2014

Needed to think about it. But she should. And she should be damned grateful that she can pull down the same salary per episode as her two male co-stars. She needs to realize that it isn't an accident. Pay equality is available for her because other female artists and workers have demanded equal pay for equal work. So there's your feminism, Kaley Cuoco-Sweeting. You're benefitting from it.

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
31. Yep. And as we just saw with Sony paying Amy Adams and Jennifer Lawrence less than their
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:21 PM
Dec 2014

male costars in American Hustle (along with many other woman at Sony making less than their male counterparts), pay equity is not always guaranteed no matter what your salary range.

It's so easy for people when they get theirs, who cares if anyone else does.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. In fact, is that known ?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:36 PM
Dec 2014

Does she get paid as much as the men?

What of the other two women on that show (I see it a lot when over my sister's house, but would never be watching it by choice).

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
81. The main 3 characters get 1 million an episode
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:59 PM
Dec 2014

There was a big public negotiation about a year and a half ago.

The other 4 supporting actors renegotiated, but none get as much as that.

I would argue Parsons deserves more than Cuoco or Galecki, he's pretty much the reason people watch the show. But there seems to be a real team effort there to keep things equal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
84. Interesting.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:02 PM
Dec 2014

I agree, its fans I know of talk about Sheldon.

I haven't been able to determine any difference between the characters (the 3 main characters) vs. the supporting. To the extent I pay attention the 7 seem to get equal time!

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
85. The other four have gotten more screen time as the show has gone along
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:04 PM
Dec 2014

Miyam Bilaik (sp) wasn't even supposed to be a regular, but was popular enough to start appearing every episode a few years ago.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
108. My understanding is that Cuoco-Sweeting, Parsons, and
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:58 AM
Dec 2014

Galecki have signed deals giving each $1 mil per episode for the next season.

The other two women core characters (I think they've been around since season 3) also got their salaries bumped, but they aren't any where near the top three at about $60k per show. The other two original cast men get over $100k, but that might have gone up in the last few months under new contracts.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
109. Thanks
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

I didn't realize they were the top 3 from the casual watching of it that I end up doing.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
110. Those three, and then the other two men,
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:08 PM
Dec 2014

were the original core group of five for the first several seasons. They defined the show's content and chemistry, IMO.

I would be heartbroken if Rauch and Bialek left, though. The character of Stuart is hysterical as well, as are Sheldon's and Leonard's mothers.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
25. As long as it's her choice on how to live, nothing wrong with it.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:15 PM
Dec 2014

I also like to cook and care for others, including the man in my life and I don't believe that is non-feminist.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
32. I think alot of younger women just don't know what feminist means
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:25 PM
Dec 2014

They have just heard negative things (like they all hate men, blah blah) for most of their lives via media and it subconciously sinks in.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
46. exactly. she clearly states she does not know anything or even think about it.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:51 PM
Dec 2014

yet, in her statements, other than the stupid like cooking for husband, she speaks as a feminist. i cook for my family too. doesnt make me anti feminism. she has bought into, a feminist does not cook for family. propaganda of men.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
51. I think the middle age and senior women also need to take some responsibility
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:07 PM
Dec 2014

Not all of course, but many, probably have not spent enough time teaching their daughters so they can continue to carry the torch and to offset all that crappy misogynistic propaganda.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
57. probably. anyone relating cooking dinner to feminism has missed the boat, one way or another. nt
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:22 PM
Dec 2014

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
67. I think I will strike up the topic when my daughter is here next.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:33 PM
Dec 2014

Just to see where her thoughts are.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
69. lol. i have had many with all nieces, nephews and two sons. well aware where they sit on the
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:36 PM
Dec 2014

issue. it has been both interesting and fun over the years. but then, we are very much into the social structure we live in and find it a fascinating subject. not all people do. some have absolutely no interest in the subject. that is more what it sounds like to me, with this young woman.

but ya, i think that would be fun and interesting for you.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
78. Yes. Heck my BIL likes to cook
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:49 PM
Dec 2014

on weekends he cooks dinner for the family. The whole meal. And cleans up! I guess this actress thinks that makes him a rabid feminist.

But he isn't.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
34. Kaley, you're a feminist...
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:30 PM
Dec 2014

even though you don't consider yourself one. Best wishes to you in your career and personal life!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
35. She sounds like a self centered asshole.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:30 PM
Dec 2014

So, because she has never experienced inequality, she doesn't see the value in fighting for it for other women who have to face it on a daily basis. She sounds like a self centered asshole.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
106. That's exactly it. She's got hers so nothing to see here. Every minority/discriminated against group
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:40 AM
Dec 2014

has people like this.

This kind of selfishness, denial and obliviousness can prove fatal at times. Many Jews in Germany during the period 1933-1938 thought they were fine even with the ascendance of Hitler and the Nazis to power. They thought it couldn't get that bad. You hear survivors say that. My grandfather who didn't survive said that to my father, etc.

In the face of Republicans behaving like they are, who seem determined to roll back many hard won rights for women, this kind of denial by Cuoco-Sweeting is dangerous. Obviously, we're not going to see women shipped off to concentration camps, but women are the victims of rape and murder at alarmingly high rates.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
37. Sounds like a very dumb person
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:34 PM
Dec 2014

So she cooks for her husband and likes it, so she feels like that means she can't be a feminist. She lucked into a very good life and won't have to deal with discrimination against women. At least, she doesn't realize yet that when she is older she will find herself treated differently from men, she will. Or she'll have enough money to not care too much and so parrot the usual crap about how men age better than women. This is a person without clue lucky enough not to have to worry about it.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
93. I like the character she plays -- who wouldn't like the working class woman who can always
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:57 PM
Dec 2014

teach the rocket scientists a thing or two? -- but I must agree with your assessment of her as a person. (Her false humility is more than a little trying, too.) What an epitaph your final sentence makes:

This is a person without clue lucky enough not to have to worry about it.


I'm reminded of Nick's take on Tom and Daisy Buchanan:

They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.



alp227

(32,019 posts)
39. Otherwise, she'd get fired from BBT. What else did you expect?
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:40 PM
Dec 2014

Because the actress self-identifying as feminist would ruin the show, due to the conflict in her character in the show!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
40. She has a charmed life and an easy paycheck.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:42 PM
Dec 2014

She does not need to worry about income equality and working week to week to survive.
She and Carrie Underwood are multimillionaires who can afford to play fantasy housewife to their husbands.

With that said, I could never stand her and now I see why. Also, I hate that GD show.

Cuoco plays a blonde minstrel, a stereotype.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
87. "Cuoco plays a blonde minstrel, a stereotype"
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:12 PM
Dec 2014

She also plays the only one on the show with normal social skills.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
95. There are no charmed lives in Hollywood
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:15 AM
Dec 2014

She had to work hard to get where she is. Probably 1000 people showed up to her casting call, and I don't know anyone that's ever had to beat out 1000 other candidates for a job.

So, yes, now she's highly paid, but LA is full of people that tried and failed miserably to have even 1/5 the success Cuoco has had.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
105. That makes it luck even more so
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:43 AM
Dec 2014

It wouldn't be working any harder to compete against 10 people than 1000. It was the casting director who "worked hard."

The people who tried and "failed" may have been as talented and as able to play the parts. It has more to do with the number of parts available and people's desires to be a star in large numbers (no wonder, given the publicity we see and the apparent money) than anyone working hard. Those 1000 other people did not work less hard.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
48. A very eye opening thread. I'm amazed at some of the ugly comments directed at
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 09:57 PM
Dec 2014

a beautiful, talented and successful actress on her attitude and choices.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
52. I think that people forget that not all generations have the same experiences
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:09 PM
Dec 2014

Or the same education and social education as others. Just because she has not learned what femanist means does not make her stupid. All it means is that she was never taught about it.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
59. Agreed
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:23 PM
Dec 2014

I thought I had gone to the wrong site for a moment. She even qualified her comments saying she hasn't really experienced inequality.

Some people have charmed lives Good for them.

That said, I don't really care what any entertainer's position is on any subject outside of entertainment without other qualifications.

Now if Mayim Bialik is talking about hypothalimy I'll listen- though probably not understand.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
62. She has been called ignorant, a very dumb person, a self centered asshole
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:27 PM
Dec 2014

by DUers, in this very thread. That's really pretty fucking disgusting.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
72. I am not positive
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:38 PM
Dec 2014

But I think much of the problem is not so much with the actress but the post.

Personally, I believe she's a feminist and just doesn't consider herself one. She states how happy she is to be able to provide and not have to worry about finances. She does what she wants when she comes home from work. She just isn't fighting for others to have that same experience.

If she liked coming home and rebuilding engines I would bet this post wouldn't be here.

And there you have my opinion, even though you didn't ask for it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
77. I think you are right
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:47 PM
Dec 2014

And even if she just liked cooking - that would be an interest many people have.

It's the way she put it as serving him and cooking for him. I think she's sort of dumb in that her husband could cook for her if that was his hobby, and she wouldn't make this statement. She has this idea in her head that if she cooks "for her husband" she won't get feminist status. A shallow and uninformed idea of feminism. She happens to enjoy cooking for him, so she thinks that makes her Donna Reed and she can't be a feminist.



marym625

(17,997 posts)
79. yep.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:53 PM
Dec 2014

Or as someone else on this thread suggested, it's part of her contract to remain similar to her character.

One of those things. Or maybe both.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
101. Exactly, I don't think she's all that clear on what "feminist" means.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:15 AM
Dec 2014

She hopefully has a better idea now, especially after mentioning the struggles that came before her.

At least she's not saying feminism is a bad thing. Cluelessness I can deal with.

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
80. And a good opinion it is. I've seen her on a couple of talk shows and she comes across
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:56 PM
Dec 2014

as a pretty decent human being.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
74. to be honest it's because what she describes
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:40 PM
Dec 2014

does not have anything to do with 'feminism" period. For her to even bring that up is silly!

Ofcourse we all have our own choices! To say that "cooking for your husband" and "never having to deal with "equality" is bullshit! She's damn lucky that there was a strong woman that stood up in hollywood to be where she is today!

Ugh! Now... this "feminist" is off to cook my husband dinner.... Because he enjoys my cooking and I LIKE cooking!

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
86. My choice is I don't cook, unless my dog wants an omelette and nags me until I cook him one.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:09 PM
Dec 2014

My Husband gets happy on those mornings because that's the only time he gets breakfast

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
90. My wife and I came to an agreement
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:29 PM
Dec 2014

she will give birth to the kids and I will cook food for them.

I'll take that deal every time

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
53. Sort of reminds me of Michael Jordon
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:12 PM
Dec 2014

Jordon reaped the benefits of those who went before him, but never stepped up himself to use the platform he commanded.

Honestly, Jordon was probably one of the best all around athletes ever. But I admire folks like Bill Russell much more. Russ stood for something, as did Bill Walton of all people. What can you say about Jackie Robinson?

Kaley Cuoco is content to rest on the work of others. She has been given a platform she chooses not to use. I think she is one hell of an actress and I enjoy her work. But when I think of women I admire, Billie Jean King comes to mind, Gloria Steinem also. We could easily go back to Susan B. Anthony.

Some are given opportunities to lead and simply don't want to do it.

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
64. welll... nice.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:28 PM
Dec 2014

So glad that so many other Women put their fists up so that YOU can have a decent paycheck!

And really, cooking for your husband is so far off the "feminist" radar it's not even funny. ugh. just ugh1

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
66. She says in the article that she likes "serving" her husband.
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:32 PM
Dec 2014

"I'm so in control of my work that I like coming home and serving him."

Read more: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kaley-cuoco-isnt-a-feminist-likes-serving-husband-ryan-sweeting-20143012#ixzz3NRGz0BWi

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Good for her.

AnnieBW

(10,425 posts)
94. Wait Until She Turns 40
Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:58 PM
Dec 2014

Her career as America's comic sweetheart will be over, and she'll be reduced to living off of residuals and the occasional "Mom" role. Just ask Jennifer Anniston.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
97. Huh? Jennifer Anniston?
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:32 AM
Dec 2014

How much money did Jennifer Anniston make for that "We're the Millers" role? That strip tease routine didn't really strike me as the stereotypical "Mom" role.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
98. Golden Globe Nomination. SAG Nomination.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:35 AM
Dec 2014

Possible Oscar Nomination.

As of June, she made 31 mill in 2014.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/jennifer-aniston/

Jennifer Aniston seems to be doing just fine.

And, psst, she's 45.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
114. What? That was supposed to be a compliment.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

I think Jennifer Aniston is one of the hottest women on the planet. For the life of me, I can't believe you would think that was somehow a knock against her.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
103. 20+ episodes a year, for a million each episode, for the next three years.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:48 AM
Dec 2014

If she has to live off of residuals then she sucked at money management more than I do!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
111. This quote says it all to me.
Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:25 PM
Dec 2014

To me, the big feminist that I am and always have been, this quote in the article says much:

"I was never that feminist girl demanding equality, but maybe that's because I've never really faced inequality."

Cuoco is right in that if one has never faced inequality, then demanding equality may not be deemed important. BUT...if we are to evolve as a species, which I hope we will, we need to be able to understand and relate to the predicaments of others. Gender inequality exists; therefore, correcting that inequality is something that should be important to all of us - to each of us.

I, personally, cringe at the idea of women SERVING men, but if that's what works for her, then that's her choice. But I hope she is intelligent enough to understand that it's the CHOICE that those of us who did work hard to "pave the way" will continue to fight for. Because those women who choose not to "take care of their men" should not be berated for that choice either.


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