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Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 12:40 AM Jan 2015

What are we going to do..

I am going to make this short and to the point... There are companies that are deliberately not hiring people over 30 hours so they dont have to pay health care. That's right. No healthcare for them...they get around the law .. because they pay these employees a very generous ....dollar over minimum wage...
And just what are these employees supposed to do if they get sick?

Now I have one company in mind which does this and also pays its CEO over $10 million a year and I am sure they are not the worst of the lot.

Realizing that I must be a communist who hates the rich ...or will be attacked as one,,, i wonder if we can we come up with some strategy for dealing with these companies either by publicly embarrassing them ( if that is possible) or boycott or otherwise calling attention to this predatory disgusting practice.

Lets do more than talk and see what concrete steps we can take to target certain companies like this..

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doc03

(35,344 posts)
1. The local mall owned by the Caffaro family and most all
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 12:53 AM
Jan 2015

of the stores cut their employees back to 29 hours a week. They work 3 days now instead of 4. All the restaurants cut their employees to 29 hours. I have a niece that works at Cracker Barrel and another at McDonalds. They blame the ACA for it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Never crosses the complainers' minds that it is greedy employers choosing to cut hours back to
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:10 AM
Jan 2015

keep another buck in their pocket. The sooner we scrap employer based insurance, the better.

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
15. Yes it does cross their minds but that doesnt help solve the problem
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 03:36 PM
Jan 2015

This is the shafting we get for compromising with the Republicans..

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
3. Since the 30 hour provision didn't take effect until 2015,
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:42 AM
Jan 2015

they were just using ACA as an excuse to cut other benefits.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
4. Make it an issue in the next campaign and let the people vote on it.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:57 AM
Jan 2015

Publicize names, conditions, and circumstances. Inform the people. It may take talking to them a thousand times, but inform the people.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
6. How about punishing the legislators who wrote the law?
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 02:38 AM
Jan 2015

Ask them why they didn't mandate health insurance for all employees, not just those who worked more than 30 hours? Whose side are they on, the workers or the employers?

Well, that was a silly question, wasn't it?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
7. Watch out -- the GOP is trying to use this as an issue to make things worse
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 02:46 AM
Jan 2015

They want to change the ACA so that nobody is required to be given health insurance unless they work at least 40 hours a week. They claim this will encourage companies to give all those 29-hour-a-week employees more hours. But at the same time, they ignore all the people who currently have employer-furnished health insurance and would lose it.

So be careful what you wish for -- the Republicans might just give it to you.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
8. Make 30 hours the standard work week.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:34 AM
Jan 2015

Better yer 24 hrs. It would create a lot more jobs.

Our production rate has risen dramatically but the only ones that have received and benefit from it are the CEO's. Time to give the benefits to the workers and decrease their working hours (for the same pay). Doing so will allow more people to be employed and also benefit retailers as people have more luxury time to spend money.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
9. Strike. Bring unions back and strike. Public shaming. Boycotts.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:40 AM
Jan 2015

Damn, American labor has forgotten US labor history. We won't get anywhere until we get that consciousness back.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
10. Single payer health care, decoupled from employment.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:42 AM
Jan 2015

Companies don't have to be in the health insurance business at all, just pay their fair share in taxes. New hires are covered. Out-of-work people are covered. Those who need to change jobs aren't trapped.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
11. Yes, that is actually the correct answer.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 08:54 AM
Jan 2015

I would think a Democrat could run on this - appeal to the corporations' basest instincts - no more paying for insurance. Then again, corporations would pay more taxes.
Single payer seems like such a win for corporate America that I wonder what the resistance is - maybe all of those huge wads of insurance premiums trickle into deals or favors. Or they all own stock in insurance companies.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
12. Max Baucus (D) provides an example
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:28 AM
Jan 2015

Max Baucus was the Democrat that had single payer advocates arrested at a hearing in 2009



How Max Baucus, the Next Ambassador to China, Killed Progressive Health Care Reform

Huffington Post 12/19/2013

...From the time Obama took office in January 2009 until he signed the Affordable Care Act in March 2010, Baucus used his considerable influence to undermine Obama's efforts to include meaningful regulations to require the insurance and drug companies to act more responsibly. He led the opposition of a handful of moderate Democrats to Obama's proposal for a public option health care plan. That opposition forced Obama and progressive Democrats in Congress to make numerous compromises to accommodate a few Senators, including Baucus, who were tools of the insurance lobby. Baucus consistently thwarted efforts by health reform advocates to protect consumers and control costs...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/max-baucus-china-ambassador_b_4476035.html

The Max Baucus Health Care Lobbyist Complex

...Lobbying disclosure filings for the first quarter of 2009 reveal that five of Baucus' former staffers currently work for a total of twenty-seven different organizations that are either in the health care or insurance sector or have a noted interest in the outcome. The organizations represented include some of the top lobbying organizations in the health sector: Pharmaceutical Manufacturers and Researchers of America (PhRMA), America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), Amgen, and GE Health Care...

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2009/06/22/the-max-baucus-health-care-lobbyist-complex/

For his "efforts", Max Baucus was rewarded with an Ambassadorship to China, where he is no doubt continuing to "work" for the (destruction of the) middle class.
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
13. All due respect, but why so coy about naming the company you have in mind? Name that motherfucker,
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:39 AM
Jan 2015

so I (and DU at large) can be sure I'm not contributing to their exploitative practices.

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