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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:03 AM Jan 2015

Brother of Homeless Man in $130,000 Viral Video: "It's All a Scam"

Earlier this week, Vocativ interviewed an eyewitness who said a viral video that has raised over $130,000 in questionably held donations was staged. Now a man who claims he's related to the video's homeless star has come forward, saying "it's all a scam" and his seemingly penniless brother is actually due to inherit $150,000 from their parents' estate.

In the video, YouTube prankster Josh Paler Lin gives a panhandler named "Thomas" $100. Expecting him to spend it on booze, Lin "secretly" films the man, who instead uses the money to buy food for others.

Since it was uploaded last week, the touching video has been watched almost 30 million times and raised over $130,000 on a donation page managed by Lin to help Thomas "get a fresh start." But according to a Huntington Beach man, nothing in the video is as it seems, down to its star's name.

Kevin Nickel told KCBS-TV that "Thomas" is actually his brother, Kenny Nickel, showing the station family photos of the sibling he reportedly fears is "being manipulated."

http://gawker.com/brother-of-homeless-man-in-130-000-viral-video-its-a-1676976706

With hits to his YouTube channel (he joined in 2009), it’s already estimated that Lin made $52,000, not counting the Indiegogo fundraising page he said he set up for Thomas. Lin’s channel also gained him nearly 15,000 new fans.

Critics have already pointed out that Thomas would have had to have walked for at least 34 minutes to the Liquor Mart, passing cheaper supermarkets along the way. They also point out that a homeless and begging Thomas had a rather blase reaction for someone who had just received $100 from a stranger.

The eyewitness to the filming told Butler he knew Lin from his many prankster videos and said he definitely saw Thomas in Lin’s vehicle during set-ups.

“I was there,” says Taugan Kadalim, “they didn’t ‘follow’ him. They drove him there [to the liquor store.]
Kadalim believes Thomas, 56, is really homeless but that the entire video was staged.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/12/31/was-heart-tugging-viral-video-of-generous-homeless-man-all-a-hoax/
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Brother of Homeless Man in $130,000 Viral Video: "It's All a Scam" (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 OP
Figures. LisaL Jan 2015 #1
99% of 'prank' videos on YouTube are all staged. Some of them are ridiculous. chrisa Jan 2015 #2
I guess only time will reveal the truth... wundermaus Jan 2015 #3
I think this is the case with most "feel good" videos daredtowork Jan 2015 #4
sigh uppityperson Jan 2015 #5
Capitalism at its best. Live and Learn Jan 2015 #6
Exactly. bvf Jan 2015 #7
Frauds like this are going to make people so cynical they lose their charitable impulses. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #8
if you can't trust a YouTube prankster Enrique Jan 2015 #9
I'm amazed he could make aprox $52,000 from YT revenue Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #10
There are people whose careers are YouTube video revenue justiceischeap Jan 2015 #12
try to think of something involving cats…. KittyWampus Jan 2015 #13
My cats are the most boring cats in the world and run from the camera justiceischeap Jan 2015 #14
Quite a few of us called it at the time. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #11
It really is impossible to be too cynical, isn't it? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #15
I was going to post that I am as cynical a person as you will find, and yet I Doctor_J Jan 2015 #16
I was suspicious once I finally watched it Quantess Jan 2015 #17

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
2. 99% of 'prank' videos on YouTube are all staged. Some of them are ridiculous.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:14 AM
Jan 2015

For example, there are some where the prank victim pulls a gun out or attacks the prankster. It's all laughably fake.

wundermaus

(1,673 posts)
3. I guess only time will reveal the truth...
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 01:29 AM
Jan 2015

So far collected -

$135,675USD
19 days left


20 hours ago

"I understand some of you have heard or saw the false allegations about this story. Everything they said was untrue and false. We already spoke to our attorney and ready to take legal action towards these false allegations. Everything about this story is true and real. We will be speaking out on a couple of national TV news to clear out these false allegations as well as the legal actions towards these people who are behind the false allegations. Wish you all have a Happy New Year! - Josh Lin"

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/help-thomas-to-get-a-fresh-start#activity

daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
4. I think this is the case with most "feel good" videos
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 02:57 AM
Jan 2015

And unfortunately they tend to divert money (or build up a certain "reaction immunity&quot from people who really need it. Unfortunately those people are messy, smelly, sick, dirty, mentally ill - just not pleasant and difficult to relate to. They are "hard to help" and outright repellent. It is hard to get help to the people who really need it even if you mean well.

Also the scammers seem to be hovering and looking for where generous people might be gathering. A few years ago I tried to write some welfare diaries for Daily Kos. Two people immediately swept in with very similar diaries, stated much more dramatically, but asking for money. One of them - the "Suddenly Homeless" guy turned out to be a pretty epic scammer. At the time I was resentful because I smelled BS, but people kept elevating his diaries to Recommended week after week. Drama does not always mean true - in fact it rarely is true!

I'm not sure what to do about this because I can personally vouch the welfare system isn't adequate: people do have reason to beg. This is also a hard thing to do with dignity: that's why you see so many people attempting to ask for help online, where they can hide their shame behind an avatar. But there are also scammers everywhere trying to exploit generous instincts or who are even executing grand schemes of social engineering. All I can advise is to do a little research before you give. In the end, perhaps it is best to give locally. It's become very easy to forget the people who are right next door.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. Capitalism at its best.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:45 AM
Jan 2015

Why should I feel outraged over this when ceo's and bankers are ripping people off daily without consequences?

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
7. Exactly.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 04:05 AM
Jan 2015

Just sounds like another scammer taking a cue from the Waltons, bank barons, and others in the 1%.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. There are people whose careers are YouTube video revenue
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jan 2015

If you get a really viral video (think Gangham Style by Psi) and monetize it, you can make millions. I'm still trying to find my viral concept so I can make some extra money.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
14. My cats are the most boring cats in the world and run from the camera
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:40 AM
Jan 2015

I've tried to think of some way to involve them but they apparently don't want to help contribute to their kibble fund.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. I was going to post that I am as cynical a person as you will find, and yet I
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jan 2015

can't keep up with the depravity that keeps popping up

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
17. I was suspicious once I finally watched it
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 06:39 PM
Jan 2015

But I didn't say anything because so many people thought it was wonderful and I didn't want to be a killjoy.

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