Fundamentalist Expect Nonbelievers To Accept Their Faith Based Laws

[TheMastersNemesis]

The Christian fundamentalist movement believes that all laws should be faith based and non believers should be forced to accept and comply with these laws. It is most clear that laws regulating birth control and abortion are at the top of the lists. Such regulations include denial of sterilization. The US synod of Catholic bishops demand that sterilization be denied where religions have control of hospitals and medical care facilities.

Nothing is more egregious than using back door policies to force non believers to obey religious laws they do not agree with. Faith and conscience is a private matter and nothing is more dangerous than using such strategies to create a de facto theocracy in the public domain.

[PowerToThePeople]

1. Warmongers expect peaceniks to accept their wars of aggression

And also to pay for them via taxation.

Ya, USA sucks big time.

[niyad]

2. and we have to keep reminding people that, in many areas, the catholic hospital is the ONLY

medical service available.

[Pacifist Patriot]

5. That's what galls me when people argue in favor of their right to determine....

medical care based on doctrinal presumptions. All well and good for those who have an alternative. But too darned many just don't.

[jwirr]

3. I suspect that there are going to be a lot of bills to that effect introduced over the next two year

[Arugula Latte]

4. Oh, but haven't you heard? Pope Frank is such a great guy, none of this matters anymore!

Sure, millions of women around the world are stomped down and screwed over by this Church every day, but that's just a pesky detail now, isn't it?

[niyad]

8. well, women don't count, you know.

[Arugula Latte]

9. That's true. I probably shouldn't even voice my opinion, because, really,

why don't I just shut up and do my duty as a vessel/helpmate to men?

(I went to a Catholic wedding ceremony where that message was the takeaway. I had to check my calendar to make sure it was still the same millennia).

[niyad]

10. I know what you mean. I was photographing a wedding for a young friend several years ago,

and when the idiot minister got to the "wives shall be submissive to their husbands" part, the family was worried that I might not react well. the marriage lasted about as long as I thought it would.

[ProfessorGAC]

11. Really?

While my wife and i fell away decades ago, we got married in church for our families' benefit. That wasn't the message delivered in our ceremony and that was nearly 35 years ago.

Were you at Mel Gibson's church? They're reactionary troglodytes.

[Arugula Latte]

12. It was a church in Maine. The young couple getting married weren't conservative,

but somehow the priest dude they chose to conduct the ceremony decided it was a moment to school people in keeping the wimminfolks in their place. I think the bride was a bit pissed off, but what are you going to do when you're standing there in the white dress?

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Still Surprising To Me

You didn't mention what religion, i guess i assumed Catholic. Something in the rest of the thread had me leaning toward that as what was being discussed. Maybe that's where i went sideways, because i know there are far more fundamentalists sects.

[Arugula Latte]

14. Oh, yeah, sorry, it was straight-up RCC.

[ProfessorGAC]

17. The The Priest Was A Tool

And he's gone off the reservation, too.

[jmowreader]

6. No sir, they do not demand this

They demand unbelievers give up their stubbornness and subscribe to the same belief system, with the same degree of fervor, as the most devout believer.

I believe one of the things that must happen for Jesus to return is for the whole world to follow Him. This is why they spend so much time recruiting the faithless.

[Iggo]

15. Oh shit! That dude ain't never comin' back, then!

[jmowreader]

16. Since "that dude" doesn't actually exist...

Revelation was written to give people some hope in the days when the Romans were killing Christians for fun, and in that context there is no harm.

Today's Christian believes in this being real, and that's a problem for anyone who doesn't believe the same way they do...how many shooting wars between Christian sects have there been?

[2naSalit]

7. One of my greatest complaints

about religions, in general, is that they demand everyone in their midst (and history shows that far beyond is included) be required to observe their beliefs, culture and rules according to a specific interpretation their origin story. This is often imposed on "others" as well as among themselves. Then there's the proselytizing edict many believe in, born of a need to conquer... so there's that

I was taught that we were to keep our religion to ourselves in school, but in the churches I was forced to attend, we were supposed to confront and convert all the non -believers because they couldn't go to heaven unless they were "saved". I recall all kinds of pamphlets that showed graphics of the world of sin as a devastated place in ecological ruin v. the "Godly Order" world we could have if everyone would just convert - all white people wearing their Sunday best enjoying a world where everything sparkles and there's always a heavenly beam of light shining on you to which you gaze in adoration from your sparkling world of orderliness.

They know of no other way to go through life, we see this now. In fact, they need just blind faith (no room for critical thought) and they make as certain as possible that it is so. Look at the billions of $$ wasted on this doggedly endless effort that is our news, entertainment and proposed legislation. Most of the incentives are based on either fear or guilt - and money for those being recruited and retained. For the "controllers", it's the power to make sure the entire world is as they wish it.

IMHO