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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:41 PM Apr 2012

Did this mom go too far with Facebook punishment?



AKRON -- Denise Abbott just wanted her daughter to learn a lesson about what not to do on Facebook. So, she created a photo of her daughter that neither will ever forget.

Denise Abbott believes that parents have to adapt to the changing times and sometimes that includes creative discipline.

The Akron mother created a Facebook profile picture showing her 13-year-old daughter, Ava, with a red "X" across her mouth, followed by the words "I do not know how to keep my (mouth shut). I am no longer allowed on Facebook or my phone. Please ask why. My mom says I have to answer everyone that asks."

More than 30 people responded with inquiries as to why the picture had been created, and Denise said Ava is writing back to each person.


http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/242679/6/Poll-Did-Akron-mom-go-too-far-with-Facebook-punishment

I think the punishment was fine.
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Did this mom go too far with Facebook punishment? (Original Post) apples and oranges Apr 2012 OP
I think it is just teaching responsibility to her young daughter. She is accountable for her words. The Wielding Truth Apr 2012 #1
Sometimes a parent has to do what they have to do. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #2
I agree - the punishment fits the situation leftynyc Apr 2012 #3
I think it's a good punishment. HappyMe Apr 2012 #4
she might still be a virgin atheous Apr 2012 #5
what a ridiculous post. and welcome to du. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #17
I think the mom did the right thing. Kalidurga Apr 2012 #6
I don't see anything wrong with it. geardaddy Apr 2012 #7
This is waaaay better Texasgal Apr 2012 #8
My thoughts are that it is a little over the top. She has embarrassed her daughter, whether she teddy51 Apr 2012 #9
I agree. I always have a problem with laundry_queen Apr 2012 #13
I agree. Not Me Apr 2012 #16
I agree - humiliation is painful and can last a life time TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #44
Sort of reminds me of people hanging peed-upon bed sheets outside... polichick Apr 2012 #10
I think this is so much not a news story. Brickbat Apr 2012 #11
Social humiliation as punishment? loyalsister Apr 2012 #12
I agree proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #43
Agree. The mother is a bully. No wonder so many kids are bullies at school. They Liquorice Apr 2012 #48
Are you kidding me? I can't believe how many people on here think this is ok. Iris Apr 2012 #14
I didn't think about that apples and oranges Apr 2012 #18
It's not even legal for kids under a certain age to be on sites like Facebook Iris Apr 2012 #25
actual it is legal for the kid to be on the site as long as the parent has lied about the kids age. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #29
Well, yes. But it would take the parents lying about their age. Iris Apr 2012 #30
its the parents Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #31
No. butterfly77 Apr 2012 #15
I can't believe the mother would take a red X to the kids mouth Renew Deal Apr 2012 #19
Probably inappropriate for a 13-year-old gratuitous Apr 2012 #20
This is news? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2012 #21
I think it is reckless. redgreenandblue Apr 2012 #22
Exactly. Iris Apr 2012 #26
I'm only 27, but I remember the days Lawlbringer Apr 2012 #23
At least she didn't take the computer out back and shoot it. LaurenG Apr 2012 #24
Public shaming and humiliation, how quaint. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #27
it could be a LOT worse atheous Apr 2012 #28
The mother disgusts me. frogmarch Apr 2012 #32
there's discipline and there's humiliation. this crossed a line. piratefish08 Apr 2012 #33
Now she needs to work on the girl's atrocious grammar. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #34
Sounds like they BOTH have behavioral problems flamingdem Apr 2012 #35
Pictures and Videos on the internet are FOREVER. This is a permanent punishment in some respects. stevenleser Apr 2012 #36
Everybody's ragging on the dad who shot the laptop. Bake Apr 2012 #37
I'm not sure why this is considered a "news" story. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #38
Unnecessary humiliation. What a sick fucking woman. Just ground her. phleshdef Apr 2012 #39
Like mother, like daughter. Quantess Apr 2012 #40
the daughter will just go to Twitter KurtNYC Apr 2012 #41
I don't see the point in public/cyber humiliation as a parenting tool fishwax Apr 2012 #42
Yep. It's cyber-bullying. nt Liquorice Apr 2012 #49
public humiliation is always a positive! RainDog Apr 2012 #45
Mother disciplines daughter with words - News @ 11 AmazingSchnitzel Apr 2012 #46
Another parent trying to get attention at the expense of her kid. Pathetic. nt Liquorice Apr 2012 #47
I'm sorry, I don't think the punishment fits the crime at all. This mother went too far. Butterbean Apr 2012 #50

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
1. I think it is just teaching responsibility to her young daughter. She is accountable for her words.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:48 PM
Apr 2012

She is obviously a minor and what she says on line could be dangerous to her privacy. We should all try to be cautious about what we post. It is difficult when we are passionate about something.

 

atheous

(37 posts)
5. she might still be a virgin
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:49 PM
Apr 2012

And if so there's that active volcano in Mexico she could be tossed into. By golly that would teach some REAL old fashioned values she wont soon forget.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
6. I think the mom did the right thing.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:50 PM
Apr 2012

Too many parents aren't willing to actually teach their children how to behave. It's hard to blame the parents, because they don't have a lot of support systems in our society. Like this mom, she will probably take some heat for the way she is handling this. It is an appropriate lesson, I won't even say punishment, because it isn't really punishment. And what makes this even better is Ava's friends may also learn a lesson, hopefully anyway. So, bravo for the mom being brave and bravo even to the girl for understanding what her mother is trying to teach her.

 

teddy51

(3,491 posts)
9. My thoughts are that it is a little over the top. She has embarrassed her daughter, whether she
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:52 PM
Apr 2012

meant to or not. I think she should have handled it in a private fashion. I say fine, ban her from Face book and take away her phone, but don't publicly embarrass her.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. I agree. I always have a problem with
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

shaming as a punishment. But it's still better than shooting up a laptop.

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
16. I agree.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:57 PM
Apr 2012

The parent has every right to restrict the child from the computer, even shut down the facebook and cell accounts altogether.
Buy why humiliate the child?

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
44. I agree - humiliation is painful and can last a life time
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:09 PM
Apr 2012

Public shaming was one of my own mother's tactics, and it's badly effected me emotionally throughout my life. Did it work to make me obedient? Oh hell yes. But it stifled me and created emotional problems I still suffer from.


polichick

(37,152 posts)
10. Sort of reminds me of people hanging peed-upon bed sheets outside...
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:54 PM
Apr 2012

...in order to humiliate the kid who wet the bed. Public humiliation isn't the way I'd go.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. Social humiliation as punishment?
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

Seems a lot like putting someone in the stocks or forcing them to wear a red A. It's a twisted way for mom to get her laughs IMO.

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
48. Agree. The mother is a bully. No wonder so many kids are bullies at school. They
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:28 PM
Apr 2012

are being bullied at home. And from all the positive replies to the mother's unacceptable behavior, it looks like many people think bullying is great discipline. Humans, we are doomed.

Iris

(15,662 posts)
14. Are you kidding me? I can't believe how many people on here think this is ok.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:55 PM
Apr 2012

Punishment aside, putting a picture up on Facebook or anywhere else on the internet is not something to be taken lightly. It's possible that this picture could follow this child around for quite some time and that's not something a responsible parent should take lightly.

Iris

(15,662 posts)
25. It's not even legal for kids under a certain age to be on sites like Facebook
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:17 PM
Apr 2012

There are federal laws about this.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
29. actual it is legal for the kid to be on the site as long as the parent has lied about the kids age.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:25 PM
Apr 2012

And the law-breaker would be facebook, not the child (or it seems, the parent.)

Iris

(15,662 posts)
30. Well, yes. But it would take the parents lying about their age.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:33 PM
Apr 2012

Or, I suppose some kids under 13 can subtract well enough to come up withe a fake birthday on their own!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Probably inappropriate for a 13-year-old
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

But it would be totally appropriate for some other people. Who, you may ask? ♫♪I've got a little list!♪♫

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
22. I think it is reckless.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

The internet is not a toy. The mother obviously understands that as little as the daughter.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
23. I'm only 27, but I remember the days
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

when instead of a red x over my mouth in an image, it was a red handprint on the side of my freaking face lol

 

atheous

(37 posts)
28. it could be a LOT worse
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:24 PM
Apr 2012

Around these parts we regularly witness parents and guardians beating kids with belts and whatever else they can lay their hands on then curse the kids with language to make a prison guard blush...
I hate to say this but this kid should be counted as lucky.

frogmarch

(12,158 posts)
32. The mother disgusts me.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:44 PM
Apr 2012

How is publicly humiliating one's child appropriate? In my opinion, it's never okay.

The mother could have disciplined her daughter by not letting her use Facebook and the phone, without telling whole world about it. The mom's a shmuck.



flamingdem

(39,314 posts)
35. Sounds like they BOTH have behavioral problems
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:00 PM
Apr 2012

And an intense need for public attention to their personal foibles, so they must be in hog heaven now

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
36. Pictures and Videos on the internet are FOREVER. This is a permanent punishment in some respects.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:03 PM
Apr 2012

I agree with others who wrote that public humiliation and shaming are terrible tools for a parent to employ against their child. In this case, the photo will follow that person around for the rest of their life, forever. As long as they live, periodically someone is going to find out about the picture and ask them about it.

Horrible parental mistake.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
37. Everybody's ragging on the dad who shot the laptop.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:36 PM
Apr 2012

Geez, he didn't shoot it while she was HOLDING IT! C'mon, people!



Bake

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. I'm not sure why this is considered a "news" story.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:39 PM
Apr 2012

Ooh, Facebook! Ooooh, naughty kids and technology and "parents cracking' down!!!"

Meanwhile, we have millions of gallons of radioactive cesium leaking into the pacific ocean every day. Maybe if it involved Facebook and a "tiger mom", the press might give half a shit.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
39. Unnecessary humiliation. What a sick fucking woman. Just ground her.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:42 PM
Apr 2012

Shame discipline is sick and vile. Talking back to your parents does NOT warrant it. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't deserve to have children.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
41. the daughter will just go to Twitter
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 05:07 PM
Apr 2012

and evade her parents like every other teen in America did 6 months ago.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
45. public humiliation is always a positive!
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:12 PM
Apr 2012

I'm sorry, but this girl said something rude to her mom so her mom posts a picture and tells everyone the daughter has to explain?

I would not want to know that woman.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
50. I'm sorry, I don't think the punishment fits the crime at all. This mother went too far.
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:35 PM
Apr 2012

The girl talked back to her mother, in person. She did not cyber bully someone or post inappropriate sexually explicit content on the internet, the ONLY two circumstances I can think of that would warrant such an extreme reaction on the part of the mother.

Teenagers mouth off. It happens. You take away the phone, you take away the computer, you ground them. Fine. This, however, was uncalled for.

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