How did Rachel lose so much weight?

[Jack_Dawson]

I'm asking this in all earnestness...not being flip. I watch her every night so I don't really notice such things day-to-day. But when she cuts away to some segment she taped a year ago - hell even three months ago, she looked bloated (back then) by comparison. And now she looks hot...even though she insists on dressing like a boy and wearing blue shoes off set.

Point being, I as a heterosexual male am still in love with her, weight or no weight.

Other point being - what's her secret? Is it a pill (that I can buy at GNC?) Is it no midweek drinking? I've scoured the intertubes and can't find anything that alludes to it.

If you know something...please elabourate.

[elleng]

1. Dunno, but could be because she's so busy

due to her book tour, resulting in dramatic change in her schedule.

[REP]

3. Maybe she is/was sick.

"Bloated"?

[REP]

2. "Insists on dressing like a boy"? For fuck's sake

There is so much wrong with this OP I started with the "dress like a boy." I bet she didn't know she was supposed to wear what YOU prefer.

[Jack_Dawson]

4. Sigh

Was waiting for the righteous indignation missed-the-point reply. You're the first. Congrats!

[REP]

7. Oh, sorry. The point is that she's "hot" now

Am I not posting up to your standards? I'm dressed like a boy as well, but I'm wearing brown engineer boots. I hope I pass muster.

[snooper2]

45. Well, do you have your hair put up in a bun or are you wearing it down?

[Iggo]

66. And as soon as she stops dressing like a boy...

...she'll be even hotter!

I think the clueless ones are my favorite kind.

[ZombieHorde]

31. If you want people to get the point of your thread, then you should remove the rest.

Not just this thread, but every post you, or anyone, makes.

Extra details only obscures the message.

[RebelOne]

89. Totally sexist comment. n/t

[Taverner]

90. That caught my eye too

WTF was my response....Insists on dressing like a boy?????

Seriously, that was unrelated, and just plain dumb

[Scuba]

96. +1

[LeftyMom]

5. Can we please not judge people based on how well they live up to stupid gender expectations?

If she "dresses like a boy" I guess a whole lot of women do. I don't dress all that differently, except that Chucks hurt my feet and I have to wear supportive running shoes.

[Jack_Dawson]

23. Nobody's judging. I"m talking about my girl Rachel.

Who I'm almost certain I've been watching longer than the haters on this thread. Just saying.

[cali]

46. Of course you were judging. that you don't recogize the horrendous

sexism you're spewing is straight out barf making.

[redqueen]

50. Also straight out unsurprising.

Focusing excessively on the appearance of not just public figures but people all around us (mostly women) is.practically a national.pastime.

[obamanut2012]

53. Of course you were judging her

And, the way you were judging her is REALLY offensive, on several different levels.

[mercuryblues]

101. she is

not a girl. She is a grown woman.

I think your keyboard seed a sexorsism, it seems to be dripping of sexism today.

she looks hot? This woman can run intellectual circles around a good portion of this country, yet you judge her by her hotness quotient, her weight and how she dresses. You can deny that is what you did, but you would only be fooling yourself.

good grief.

[Dawgs]

32. ENOUGH!!

People are animals. They are attracted to other people by how they look. Judging on appearance is what we do.

Get used to it because it will never change.

[LeftyMom]

34. Women are people.

They are under no obligation to organize their wardrobe around the OP's criteria for fuckability, and doing so does not make them look like men or boys.

[Dawgs]

39. Who said anything about "fuckability"? I'm talking about attraction.

We are ALL attracted to other people by their appearance. And no one, including the OP, suggests that Rachel should change her appearance. It was an observation, not an attack.

Rachel is a beautiful person. And the the OP says that over an over again. It was merely an observation that they would like to her wear something they feel is more appealing.

Rachel chooses her outfits based on her personal preference. I don't think anyone is suggesting she shouldn't do that anymore.

[LeftyMom]

78. Judging her based on her willingness to perform gender gymnastics is an attempt to change her.

She can change how she looks OR she can be judged as doing femaleness badly. Nobody likes to be thought less of, or to have a part of their identity denied them, so this narrow definition of what femininity looks like demands that many women change their behavior or risk criticism and damage to their self esteem. While I'm sure that Dr. Maddow doesn't give a flying fuck what the OP thinks of her outfits, that sort of language is used to reinforce societal expectations on other women and to shame them for any deviation.

Further, she's been apparently healthy, proportionate and attractive the whole time, so the OP's focus on her weight loss (which is so minor I haven't personally noticed it, but I'll take his word for it) is equally disturbing.

[redqueen]

51. Exactly.

Women are under no obligation to comply with society's dictates or expectations regarding their appearance.

[Dawgs]

62. And nobody said they should comply. n/t

[redqueen]

69. A direct command is not necessary.

See post 37, the piece linked there spells it out.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

6. What a disgusting thread.

"Insists on dressing like a boy" sorry she's not on television for the purpose of sexually stimulating you.

Who cares if she's skinnier? Maybe you'd be more comfortable watching the Kardashians waste oxygen on a reality show?

[REP]

9. Careful now; you're missing the oh-so-important point of this deep OP!

I've already been chided for daring to notice the asshattery.

[seabeyond]

12. you had me searching for the missed point, too. hm... nt

[Canuckistanian]

8. "No midweek drinking..."??

Please don't scare me like that

[blue neen]

10. I was too busy listening to what Rachel is reporting on...didn't have time to analyze her appearance

It's a wonderful program, she's extremely intelligent and entertaining...that's really all I need to know.

If you are interested in weight loss secrets, you might want to check out Dr. Oz.

[slackmaster]

11. Type 2 Diabetes is a hell of a disease

[Hassin Bin Sober]

17. Wait what?

[slackmaster]

44. You heard it from me first.

Just in case it turns out my SWAG was right.

[JI7]

13. she has always been thin, if she is more so now it's because she is more busy, and she doesn't dress

like a boy.

[seabeyond]

15. i have never taken note of any fluctuation at all. i just watched her show

only came into the thread, cause i was surprised by the OP title.

really, an appalling OP in a number of ways.

[redqueen]

14. Wow. nt

[HeiressofBickworth]

16. Since RM wears slacks and a jacket,

what does "dressing like a girl" look like? Please describe.

Damn, I thought that gender apparel assignment went out decades ago. I remember working for a law firm that didn't allow women to wear pantsuits. Is that what you think the correct standard should be?

[LadyHawkAZ]

18. W.T.F.

[rhett o rick]

19. This OP fails in so many ways. "Wow, she isnt as bloated as she used to be".

She dresses like a boy?? How insulting.

You tell posters here that object to your insulting and insensitive post that they dont get your point. I think they get your point. If you dont agree, maybe you should do a better job.

I love Rachel. I think she is beautiful and smart. She dresses like a beautiful, smart person.

It's not a complement to tell someone they arent as fat as they used to be.

[Jack_Dawson]

22. I *think* I said I love Rachel with or without weight. But haters gonna hate.

Of course all things being equal, it's generally healthier to be without the weight. And oh yeah she looks great to boot (that's a compliment). Sorry humorless DUers for my unforgivable "call 'em as I see 'em" opinion.

Instead of everyone whipping themselves into a frenzy about this comment or that comment, I was more looking for - what's her secret? That's it.

My love for Rachel remains steadfast, no matter who tries to say otherwise. Peace.

[rhett o rick]

71. "haters gonna hate." Are you calling me a hater? Good grief.

"Sorry humorless DUers ". WTF, are you calling me "humorless".

I thought your comments were rude. Calling "'em" as you see "'em", isnt license to be rude.

[RZM]

20. I lost 25 lbs. last year through diet and exercise

Of course I've gained it all back. But that's beside the point

[Jack_Dawson]

24. What did you give up to get there?

Must've been something...c'mon now.

[RZM]

25. Everything, really

My main vices are alcohol, ice cream, and restaurant/fast food, especially fried chicken. I gave them all up. I eschewed restaurants and when I drank, it was MG64, which sucks.

Funny part is that it's actually not all that hard. But there certainly is something off about eating a plate of blueberries at 2am. Other than that, it really wasn't too difficult. I fell off the wagon by choice.

[Jack_Dawson]

26. Respect. Sounds like my Lent.

I think all of us know what we have to do...it's just hard coming home on a Tuesday night after a crap day at work and not falling into it all over again.

[murielm99]

21. I want blue shoes.

[MrMickeysMom]

27. I have blue shoes....

Say..... if I loose some weight, I'll bet they'll look R E A L L Y friggin H o T on me....

[MADem]

28. Cutting back on the hooch, maybe? nt

[Saving Hawaii]

29. "she looks hot...even though she insists on dressing like a boy"

Could you possibly take my confession online? I can't make it this week.

[Son of Gob]

30. PUI is usually a bad idea.

This OP is yet another example of that fact.

[Dawgs]

33. Take it from another heterosexual male. Your post is perfectly fine.

Ignore the sensitivity police. They obviously have an agenda.

[Maine-ah]

42. take it from a heterosexual female.

his post is not fine, and neither is yours.

The only agenda, is that most women are tired of being defined by they're body type, weight, clothing, sexuality...etc...

[Dawgs]

60. Uh, both men and women are defined by their looks every day of their lives.

It started a long time ago, when people were "created" as animals.

[jpak]

35. Olive Garden and cornflake fried chicken

yup

[datasuspect]

77. i'll see that and raise you one asian woodcarver

[fishwax]

79. or another gem from that same poster about how Maddow needed to wear more makeup

That was the thread that popped to my mind when I saw the subject line ...

[seabeyond]

81. wow. really? so this is not the first. hm. nt

[fishwax]

85. two different posters, though

My "that same poster" was unclear, I see, but I meant to refer not to the OP but to Radio Lady, who posted the "asian woodcarver" flame war datasuspect mentioned. Way back when she also had a thread about how she liked Maddow but thought she needed more makeup to be more ladylike. I thought of that thread when I saw the subject line of this OP.

Sorry for that confusion.

[seabeyond]

87. gasp***. lol, oh wow

" Maddow but thought she needed more makeup to be more ladylike." just wow. lol. i didnt know. i dont know about the asian carver, though sounds a little familiar. and got the scoop on olive garden a couple months ago. what a hoot.

[jpak]

95. A DU Classic

[calypso222]

36. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

[CBGLuthier]

37. Ashley Judd would like a word with you

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/09/ashley-judd-slaps-media-in-the-face-for-speculation-over-her-puffy-appearance.html


The Conversation about women’s bodies exists largely outside of us, while it is also directed at (and marketed to) us, and used to define and control us. The Conversation about women happens everywhere, publicly and privately. We are described and detailed, our faces and bodies analyzed and picked apart, our worth ascertained and ascribed based on the reduction of personhood to simple physical objectification. Our voices, our personhood, our potential, and our accomplishments are regularly minimized and muted.

[seabeyond]

43. i have always loved listening to judd. i appreciate this article, but they cut it short

along the way and i dont know why. they took out a couple really good paragraphs. but, yes.... i love what she has to say.

[CBGLuthier]

97. did not mean to link to an abridged version

I love how educated she is. So many actors, even ones I like, they open their mouths and you find out they aren't so bright but she seems very intelligent indeed.

[seabeyond]

98. i couldnt find the original. it was there. and then it wasnt. it was that site

we had put in in the history of feminist forum first so we had the whole article. when it ended up on GD it was shortened and so disappointed. when i went back, it was the sortened version. ah well, words lost. but they were good words, lol.

yes.... i like that educated. cool stuff. hey, rachel. lol

[MoonRiver]

38. Rachel's lost weight? Didn't notice.

Guess those baggy boy's clothes disguised it.

[Taitertots]

40. I'd guess diet and exercise

Eating healthy and being active is the secret.

[MineralMan]

41. What does Rachel Maddow's weight matter to you?

I doubt she's all that concerned whether you think she looks "hot," either. As for the "dressing like a boy" nonsense, again, I can't see how what clothing she chooses is of any importance.

Rachel Maddow is a political commentator, and a very good one. I watch her to listen to her words. Her appeal to me is that she gets to the heart of the matter quickly and explains her point of view very well. That I agree with her on almost everything she says also plays a role.

Fantasizing about television personalities seems to be to be a waste of time.

[Little Star]

47. This OP is insulting on so many levels...

[CrispyQ]

48. I miss unrec. I seriously miss it.

Ashley Judd says it better than I could.

Ashley Judd Slaps Media in the Face for Speculation Over Her ‘Puffy’ Appearance
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/09/ashley-judd-slaps-media-in-the-face-for-speculation-over-her-puffy-appearance.html

editor's note: Ashley Judd’s 'puffy' appearance sparked a viral media frenzy. But, the actress writes, the conversation is really a misogynistic assault on all women.

A snippet of Ms. Judd's response:

The Conversation about women’s bodies exists largely outside of us, while it is also directed at (and marketed to) us, and used to define and control us. The Conversation about women happens everywhere, publicly and privately. We are described and detailed, our faces and bodies analyzed and picked apart, our worth ascertained and ascribed based on the reduction of personhood to simple physical objectification. Our voices, our personhood, our potential, and our accomplishments are regularly minimized and muted.

~more at link

=====
Unrec.

[seabeyond]

65. " I miss unrec. I seriously miss it." me, too

seriously, lol. i have had a couple threads i have no desire to talk in lately, and i really wanted to go to unrec

[Xyzse]

49. LOL

Sorry, can't help but laugh at this thread.
If you want, I can suggest many Beach Body products dependent on your goals.

There is P90X, Insanity, RevAbs that are entry level before going for things that are even harder like Asylum and P90X-2.

Think of it as a 1-2 hour investment per day.

Lastly, I have no clue who you are talking about. Who is Rachel?

[obamanut2012]

52. And people wonder why women have self-image problems

I won't even respond to the "dresses like a boy" comment. Oh wait, I will: you do get how offensive that is to many of us, right?

[Dawgs]

61. Men have self-image problems too.

And they should.

[redqueen]

72. And the more their appearance is scrutinized, the worse it will get.

Women currently get 5x the scrutiny. Men and boys are having increasing rates of eating disorders. Perhaps.we can ramp up the.'does he look hot enough or is he too scrawny' type talk (cause as you know... It's just a red blooded American thing to do), and see if we can make pectoral implants as common as boob jobs.

[obamanut2012]

54. I think Jon Stewart has been looking bloated lately, does he need to go on a diet?

Even though I'm a gay woman, I still think he's kinda hot, even if he does wear those girly pink ties and French cuffs.

I mean, when was the last time anyone ever say someone post or say something like this???

[seabeyond]

67. i know colbert has gained a few pound, and i love him anyway, lol. nt

[Iggo]

55. Ew. Seriously? So gross.

[dmr]

56. What does your sex preference have to do with her weight loss?

Are you implying in a round about way that her weight loss is tied into her being a lesbian?

If you really scoured the intertubes and found no answer, what makes you think there is an answer other than the one you should be explaining to us about why you'd ask this troubling 'innocent' question?

[WI_DEM]

57. hmm, I never even noticed.

[myrna minx]

58. I miss the unrec feature.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

59. She's the best and i'm against Rachel profiling.

[Maine-ah]

63. good lord...

that's a damn DUzy

[demmiblue]

84. FTW!

[goclark]

64. She looks great!

Watch her everyday and admire her smarts and her clothes.

I like the way she wears clothes that make her look impressive and ready to talk Business .

Some of them dress like Barbie Dolls and have no IQ of worth.

[Puglover]

68. You claim to be "in love" with Rachel.

So, that would indicate to me that you watch her show and have some sense of what Rachel Maddow is all about. So do you think Rachel would like being called "my girl" or being told she "dresses like a boy"?

With all due respect, get a clue.

[Capt. Obvious]

70. You're setting us up for the punch line, "Carpet has no calories" right?

Seriously, did you even read what you just posted?

I'm sure you did and thought this would go over like a lead balloon. Congrats on your successful mission.

"dress like a boy"

objectifying

insensitive weight characterization

"blue shoes" - whatever the fuck that is

And finally....

"Point being, I as a heterosexual male am still in love with her, weight or no weight." - Thank god you tipped your hand there as I would have been left to wonder. But here, let me clean that last part up for you.

"Point being, I as a clueless, self-gratifying, hedonistic heterosexual male will still judge her, weight or no weight."

[Spazito]

86. +1 n/t

[Xyzse]

73. Seriously Who is Rachel?

There are too many Rachels, so....

Which Rachel?

[seabeyond]

74. rachel maddow. nt

[Xyzse]

76. Oh..

Thanks...
Seems, like even if I read news a lot, I have no idea how she looks like.

[datasuspect]

75. trolling

ur doing it wrong.

i'm sure you think you are quite clever, but your technique is hollow and transparent.

[seabeyond]

80. especially considering the history. just waiting to hear about the really really young "chick"

he has all in love with him, lol.

isnt that in every. single. one. of his posts.

the really really young, really, she is so young, hot chick.

[datasuspect]

82. i'm sure it fancies itself

as the tom cruise of internet subterfuge.

"i got a couple thousand posts on DU!!!!!!"

clever.

[otohara]

83. Who Here Is Rachel's Dietitian?

anybody seen her at your local Weight Watchers or Jenny Craig.

She looks the same to me.

[laconicsax]

88. Does anyone have the jury results for this thread?

I'm not surprised by the 2-4 result, but I'd like to see whether the four pro-sexism jurors left comments

[BlueIris]

91. Why does anyone care what she looks like? nt

[Rex]

92. No shit!!!

I think this superficial fixation on another person is petty and I question the OP's sincerity.

[Jack_Dawson]

93. Compliment Rachel Maddow, be vilified...only on DU.

OP in six words: "Rachel looks great...what's her secret?" If Ed Schultz becomes svelte, expect the same question. Thanks DAWGS for getting it.

Still love DU - apology accepted.

Peace and Love.

[Puglover]

94. You should have stuck with

"Rachel looks great...what's her secret?" instead of the sexist crap you posted.

Two of you "got it" in this thread. Not.

[Capt. Obvious]

99. Only on DU

Right. Or anywhere where people don't just spout off whatever comes to their mind while they're masturbating.

[LanternWaste]

100. Except the OP was not in six words

Except the OP was not in six words.

Had it been, the OP would look much less absurd, foolish and petulant.