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Quiet_Dem_Mom

(599 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 01:35 PM Apr 2012

"The meteor probably weighed about 154,300 pounds" -- meteorites found in N Cal.

Experts say the flaming meteor, dating to the early formation of the solar system 4 billion to 5 billion years ago, probably was about the size of a minivan when it entered the Earth's atmosphere with a loud boom early Sunday. It was seen from Sacramento, Calif., to Las Vegas and parts of Northern Nevada.


http://www.lvrj.com/news/sunday-s-fireball-larger-than-most-meteors-scientists-say-148927765.html

--Yea...a 154,000 pound minivan!

We live in Douglas County, NV (near South Lake Tahoe) and our kids were freaked out by the sonic boom that it caused right before 8 a.m. Sunday morning. They thought something hit the house! Sounds like there were also quite a few people in our area that actually witnessed the meteor streak across the sky.

Anybody else in the northern CA or NV area that heard the sonic boom Sunday morning?
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"The meteor probably weighed about 154,300 pounds" -- meteorites found in N Cal. (Original Post) Quiet_Dem_Mom Apr 2012 OP
Must be some incredibly dense material. Rex Apr 2012 #1
Mostly iron, probably. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2012 #2
It is funky space metal! Rex Apr 2012 #5
The article says carbonaceous chondrite. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2012 #6
Wiki says that is a very rare kind of meteor. Rex Apr 2012 #8
I sure hope they don't get any bigger. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2012 #33
OK, this made me laugh! siligut Apr 2012 #22
Hey, it worked for Terry Pratchett.. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #26
It's like a big chunk of stainless steel slackmaster Apr 2012 #4
Wow. Rex Apr 2012 #7
I imagine a 75-tonne rock hitting me at mach 25 wouldn't hurt for long... (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #24
What makes you think it was a Conservative? ieoeja Apr 2012 #9
HA! Rex Apr 2012 #19
A typical minivan's almost entirely empty space Posteritatis Apr 2012 #23
True but that would not equal 150k pounds. Rex Apr 2012 #27
I'm not sure you're getting how dense metals are Posteritatis Apr 2012 #28
True I have no idea or expertise in that area. Rex Apr 2012 #29
Yeah, you have to start getting into that sort of scale for that amount of mass to make sense Posteritatis Apr 2012 #31
Dam that is amazing...I bet a solid gold (and I mean solid) Rex Apr 2012 #32
a 154,000 pound minivan Morning Dew Apr 2012 #3
Not If You Dropped It From Space ProfessorGAC Apr 2012 #10
Gravity fueled minivans FTW! DemzRock Apr 2012 #11
This is why the concept of god is ridiculous snooper2 Apr 2012 #12
It really is silly when you think about it. Rex Apr 2012 #20
A minivan sized chunk of iron would weigh more than 300,000 pounds immoderate Apr 2012 #13
Somebody better call Bruce Willis and the rest of the crew. progressoid Apr 2012 #14
That would be 17 tons larger than the largest meteorite ever found. Robb Apr 2012 #15
99% of it probably disentegrated (sp?) in the atmosphere. cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #21
That's the estimated weight of the meteor, not the metorites spawned from it that struck the earth. Brother Buzz Apr 2012 #25
What fun to go out looking for pieces AnotherDreamWeaver Apr 2012 #16
did they find it? Is there a crater? Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #17
It exploded in the air (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #18
A meteor hitting Las Vegas.. A kind of biblical ending to the place donīt you think? Lars77 Apr 2012 #30
Kewl - and did we even know that it was coming in close enough haele Apr 2012 #34
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Wiki says that is a very rare kind of meteor.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 01:51 PM
Apr 2012

only 4% of meteors that fall from the sky are these types. Very interesting.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
23. A typical minivan's almost entirely empty space
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:08 PM
Apr 2012

If you took an ingot of iron the size of one you'd easily wind up with dozens of tonnes.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. True but that would not equal 150k pounds.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:41 PM
Apr 2012

I believe a C-130 weighs about 170k pounds. And is far bigger then a VW bus.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
28. I'm not sure you're getting how dense metals are
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:55 PM
Apr 2012

A C-130 is also almost entirely empty space, and is actually designed to be lighter than something that size would often be otherwise.

A block of iron one meter on each side weighs almost over 17,000 pounds. If you ballpark our hypothetical minivan at twentyish cubic meters, you're getting close to 350,000 pounds.

It's very, very easy for solid blocks of metal to get astonishingly heavy pretty quickly. People almost never deal with big chunks of bulk metal like that, so it's pretty easy to forget how much it weighs in large amounts.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
29. True I have no idea or expertise in that area.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:13 PM
Apr 2012

That is fascinating, thanks! Yeah, I guess I am not 'picturing' in my head accurately how dense and solid metals are. The comparison to a VW mini-van through me for a loop! So a sold chunk of metal the size of a minivan is about 175 tons...wow. Are there actually places that have huge solid chunks of metal like that? I guess maybe a dams superstructure would require something that size?

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
31. Yeah, you have to start getting into that sort of scale for that amount of mass to make sense
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:29 PM
Apr 2012

Mostly, you're only going to see those sorts of scales when they're producing the stuff in bulk in the first place, though. Even dams would be more concrete than metal.

Past that, basically think in terms of the sorts of things people struggle with while weightlifting, and then picture what those would be like if they were solid and larger than a handful of refrigerators. The mass builds up very fast.

Iron's "light" as far as such things go, too - a minivan-sized chunk of gold would weigh about 400 tonnes.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Dam that is amazing...I bet a solid gold (and I mean solid)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:36 PM
Apr 2012

mini-van would start to sink into the ground! Yeah...it is hard picturing the weight of 400 tonnes, I guess that is why my brain picked a big thing like a C-130 to compare it to.

It reminds me of when I was young and read how a white dwarf star has a mass that is so extreme that the gravity at the surface can be 100k that of the Earth!

Science, I don't understand a lot of it but I still find it very fascinating!

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
10. Not If You Dropped It From Space
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

It would hit several hundred miles per hour and use no gas at all!
GAC

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
12. This is why the concept of god is ridiculous
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:19 PM
Apr 2012

I'm sure somebody will read this and think, oh Jesus and Allah were just playing kickball and it got away from them


Check out the stats on a white dwarf..

(1 tonne) (1000Kilograms) per cubic centimeter


Figure a minivan weighs around 2 tonne (2000 kilograms) imangine trying to hold 2 cubes the size of a cube of salt with that kind of mass in your hand.

I imagine that would fuck your wrist bone up

Of course Jesabus made it all

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
20. It really is silly when you think about it.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 04:46 PM
Apr 2012

That a master creator carved the Universe into what we see today. REALLY?

Explain HOW.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
13. A minivan sized chunk of iron would weigh more than 300,000 pounds
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:26 PM
Apr 2012

Say the minivan is 5x2x2 meters. (Roughly 15x6x6 feet.) Iron is about 7874 kg/m3. So that's about 157480 kg, or 346456 pounds. YMMV.

(just had to look this up!

--imm

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
21. 99% of it probably disentegrated (sp?) in the atmosphere.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 04:49 PM
Apr 2012

The only pieces they'll find will likely be small pebbles.

Brother Buzz

(36,423 posts)
25. That's the estimated weight of the meteor, not the metorites spawned from it that struck the earth.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 05:26 PM
Apr 2012

Most of this meteor burned and vaporized

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,850 posts)
16. What fun to go out looking for pieces
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 02:46 PM
Apr 2012

but I'm tied to "responsibilities" at this time in my life. Wonder how many students will spend their summer vacation out looking though.

haele

(12,650 posts)
34. Kewl - and did we even know that it was coming in close enough
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:36 AM
Apr 2012

That if it hadn't disintegrated so spectacularly when it hit the atmosphere, it might have hit us? Yes, let's cut some more of NASA's budget...

Haele

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