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thank god!!!! ....
The "saggy pants law," a proposal that would prohibit students from dressing in an indecent manner at school, has been signed by Gov. Bill Haslam.
Haslam signed the measure this week. The legislation prohibits students from exposing underwear or body parts in an indecent manner that disrupts the learning environment.
A stricter version of the proposal failed to pass the legislature three years ago.
That measure targeted individuals who wear pants below the waist-line and imposed a fine of up to $250 and 160 hours of community service.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120426/NEWS0201/304260068/TN-saggy-pants-law-signed-by-Gov-Haslam-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)But a law?
Guy Montag
(126 posts)Stop worrying about what others are wearing.
kctim
(3,575 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)about state congressmen voting for they're friends who are absent when votes are taken to make it look like they were not absent. The TN legislature is full of fools. http://www.newschannel5.com/story/17796991/nc5-investigates-state-lawmakers-ghost-voting
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)These cretins are living in a state that is poverty-ridden, with few decent jobs, high unemployment in many areas, high teen pregnancy rate, high infant mortality rate, too many uninsured poor and working class, and all these fucking dimwit suits can do with our tax money is worry about schoolkids' asscracks?
I've lost hope that Tennessee's Snobby Goober Governor will ever care about the poor.
And I give up waiting for the TN backwoods, fool legislators to do the right thing. Ever. EVER.
They want to look like ignorant, racist pigs so they can appeal to their local church ladies. They don't give a goddamn about the people who are hurting in this state.
It makes me physically ill and sad to look at the lot of them.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Turbineguy
(37,322 posts)there should be a law against saggy pants. If somebody wants to walk around suggesting, "I'm ready to be your prison bitch!", well, more power to them.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)look at cracks.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)We should pass laws to satiate what you do and don't care to look at?
I don't dress that way myself, but people that do aren't showing off their cracks anyway. The style involves boxer shorts. You aren't looking at anyones crack. But even so, who gives a flying figgety fuck? We shouldn't go around passing fucking fashion laws to satiate self important, shitty people.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)The fact of the matter is, its harmless to you if someone sags their pants or not. It looks silly, but it doesn't affect you and you nor the government has any BUSINESS telling people how they can dress.
I know you want to PRETEND like its some sort of indecent exposure or something, but its really not, and deep down inside, you know better. Keep your fucking fashion opinions out of the laws that dictate the freedoms of others.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)right to tell me what to eat - but they do.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)You can go eat a pile of dog shit if you felt like it. The goverment won't try to stop you.
Regardless, comparing consumer food safety issues to telling people how they can dress is a desperate argument at best. Is that really as good as you can do to defend your stance?
mac56
(17,566 posts)Occulus
(20,599 posts)How goddamned hard IS that, anyway!??!?
emilyg
(22,742 posts)you have. Hard not to look when they're crossing in front of my car or walking ahead of me in a store.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)should just stay home, pull down the shades and read your Bobble.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)in that book of fables.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)of a guy who sends his daughter out to be raped and murdered (you see, the bible hates wymmins) and then she's hacked into twelve pieces...
And there's the story of a couple of daughters who sleep with their dad in that book. And I think Jesus was naked on the cross...FOR SHAME!!!!!
So maybe she should just put on dark glasses and stare at her own walls?
antigone382
(3,682 posts)...and into the prison system, where they're shut away from your view. Flippant and intentionally callous responses to arbitrary and unecessary laws that have real impacts on peoples' lives are far more offensive to me than anyone's vocabulary or dressing habits.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)It's a tragedy in this state, and Haslam and his henchmen in the legislature plan on making it worse.
It seems Republicans hate the idea of schools, colleges, educational opportunities, but they LOVE the idea of cheap prison labor for their corporate goon buddies.
I wish Tennesseans would wake up and vote in the best interests of these kids. But all the TN voters have to do is hear "Jesus! Guns! Abortions! Gays!" and they vote like suckers for the guys who will make their lives - and the lives of their children - a living hell.
It's frustrating to see people continually vote to destroy their own futures.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)emilyg
(22,742 posts)Harry Back
(17 posts)adult teachers - minor students
Yet students, by hanging their ass out, make teachers look at their ass all the time.
So now I guess teachers have more leverage with this law? I dunno really.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)have dress code laws. Stalemate.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)I know more kids who ended up dropping out due to continual run-ins with administrators or legal issues in school than I can count. I went to five different high schools, and nearly every one had a dress code which prohibited baggy pants, so a law (complete with a $150 fine and 250 hours of community service) is unnecessary and excessive. This will put a huge additional burden on families that are already poor and have minimal access to decent social services. I deeply fear that this will result in even more students in Tennessee dropping out or giving up in the face of a draconian and adversarial "learning" environment.
Zero-tolerance "law and order" solutions are not the only ways to deal with social problems...in fact I consider them the least effective ones.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Another example of what 'freedom' means to republicans.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Sigh.
Bake
spanone
(135,830 posts)and some idiots will never catch on to it!!!
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)But my fellow Tennesseans keep electing these assclowns.....they must love being cheated, is all I can say.
They sure aren't getting their money's worth out of these pigs...
pampango
(24,692 posts)have apparently solved all the normal problems that state governments deal with like poverty, unemployment, infrastructure, public education, etc., so they have time and money to spend as the fashion police and solvers of international conspiracies. Must be nice!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002618285
lunasun
(21,646 posts)$pending tax $ to make it a law
Wont even be in fashion 10 yrs from now or less =wasteful gov't
spanone
(135,830 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Don't see them nearly as often anymore.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)I've never seen such a dumb style hang on for so long.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Baggy pants are annoying but we don't need a law banning them. They're going out of style anyway.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)They're really keeping up with the trends!
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)I predict 3 X more female offenders in red states (...do tramp stamps also count as 'underwear' ?).
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Shit, the baggy pants are part of a reaction to laws like this one.
Are these people total idiots? That was rhetorical.
How about a law requiring peace, love, and understanding. They'd get more positive changes that way. Dingbats.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It's our national past time
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)If this was a fashion trend started by the Grand Ole Opry demographic, we'd hear nothing of it...
To say nothing of the fact that the goddamned 90s are OVER--I haven't even seen saggy pants regularly for about a decade...
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)The first rapper? Inventor of saggy pants?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_%22Stringbean%22_Akeman
antigone382
(3,682 posts)I love my state, but I know more young men cycling through the prison system than I can count. Their future is being ripped from them. It's such a tragedy.
markpkessinger
(8,395 posts)Opaque fabric is opaque fabric, whether it happens to be cotton, silk, denim, spandex, wool, khaki or whatever.
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)... need to come with criminal penalties?
antigone382
(3,682 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)"
The Republican governor earlier this month cited coverage of the saggy pants bill as an example of what he called the media's failure to pay attention to substantive measures."
The MEDIA'S failure? Really, GOP governor, you blame the MEDIA for covering this type of bullshit legislation, and not the legislators who are WASTING TAX DOLLARS and time coming up with crocks of shit like this?
It's the MEDIA'S Fault? Dear God, could there possibly be a more obtuse individual?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)And do a search to see how they (Pilot - owned by his family)) price-gouged hurting people during emergencies. They are pigs. Haslam is their pefect, snorting, greedy, ignorant piglet.
He's another little George Bushie, doing the bidding of the state's 1%. He has an ignorant room full of suits to fellate him and pass all the laws to benefit the VERY RICH in this very poor state.
The saggy pants law is all he can throw to the poor folks - regulate us some more and soon all the pretty new prisons will be full and Haslam's buds in the For-Profit-Prison scene will have more to donate to his next campaign!
ALL Republicans are blood-sucking leeches. (With apolgies to the innocent actual leeches of our nation's waters.)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)in the neighboring state where I live of MS. Where do we dredge these pieces of crap up, and why do they keep getting elected in our beloved South? We need to vote these crap piles out of office and elect some decent people. I'd love to start with Haley Barbour. What an idiot he is! Pardoning people that are murderers because they do renovation that benefit's him. What sense does that make?
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Haslam comes from a criminal family of entitled scum who fleece the little people.
Runs on the "smaller gubbmint" promise, then passes this sort of tripe, which should be the domain of the local school boards.
He and his little sycophant goons in our legislature will not be happy until they completely drain this state of any happiness or prosperity for any but the 1%.
They get elected because of outside money, because they don't properly fund schools that teach the importance of voting, and because they have disenfranchised so many people, those people can't vote.
With the new voter ID laws the legislators passed ( because those ugly, greedy, racist, pigs KNOW they should be tossed out on their greasy asses by decent people so they have to do something to stop people from voting) they are practically guaranteed lifetime terms in Nash Vegas.
Bill Harmon is a decent guy, as far as TN legislators go. Haven't seen which way he voted, but he's better than most. I really feel sorry for the Dems in our legislature now.
BTW, when I get really down, I go here, to The World's Most Dangerous Beauty Salon. Juanita really gets Southern/Texas politics and sticks it right back to 'em. It gives me a laugh so I can carry on:
http://juanitajean.com/
FSogol
(45,481 posts)Freedum is on the March!
You really need a law instead of a school dress code?
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)The children are saved!!11
I'm series1!!
Legislating what people wear is always a good use of time.
Javaman
(62,521 posts)Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)Not to mention appliance repairmen. I call discrimination.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)It's in the Bible, you know...
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)we don't like to see other people doing.
And teh stupid marches on...
K&R
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)but there will not be a law against cleavage because the Principal brings her into the office to determine if too much boob...side or front...is showing. Hmmm...let me see here...LOL.
I remember the days when they made girls kneel down, and if their skirt didn't touch the ground, it was indecent.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,339 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Response to spanone (Original post)
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Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)As much as republicans kiss the Koch brother's asses, you'd think they'd be immune to saggy pants.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Nashville's collective IQ goes down 40 points when these idiots are in town.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)or perhaps they just don't think far enough ahead. Idiots.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...meanwhile the Governor appears to miss the irony of the Government of TN not addressing substantive measures.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)and I think they were planning on doing something similar to women who were sports bras shirts.
I like my dress slacks a bit saggy. Are they serious???
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)urban youth, because we know the suburban and rich white-boy wannabes will never get targeted by this law.
williesgirl
(4,033 posts)Puzzler
(2,505 posts)NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)Newschannel5 (Nashville) just did an expose (Ghost Votes) showing House members voting for other members who weren't there - effectively voting twice! They would simply lean over and press the vote buttons in the empty desk next to them. Many of them used sticks to reach the buttons.
They just passed (or did they?) Voter ID laws, and yet many of them are voting twice just by using a stick.
Go to newschannel5.com and search for Ghost Votes for the shocking videos.
Ter
(4,281 posts)Oh well, just don't ban thongs from showing.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)proverbialwisdom
(4,959 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Always.