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http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/breaking-news-politics/72368-gop-had-secret-meeting-innauguration-night-figure-out-how-grind-country-halt.htmlDuring a lengthy discussion, the senior GOP members worked out a plan to repeatedly block Obama over the coming four years to try to ensure he would not be re-elected.
The disclosures described as "appalling and sad" by Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod undermine Republican claims that the president alone is to blame for the partisan deadlock in Washington.
A detailed account of who was present at the dinner on that January 20 night and the plan they worked out to bring down Obama is provided by Robert Draper in 'Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the US House of Representatives', published this week.
In his book, Draper opens with the heady atmosphere in Washington on the days running up to the inauguration and the day itself, which attracted 1.8 million to the mall to witness Obama being sworn in as America's first black president.
Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future and failed presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)This is one case, and no, it does not rise to the level of criminal before anybody says it.
malaise
(269,212 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)But in the worst economic times of most Americans lives, it was and is, definitely anti-American.
Rex
(65,616 posts)you would like to think we are all on the same side here.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)them, the banksters, the ms media; treasonous mother fuckers who fucked over America for their own benefit.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But the standard to prove treason in US law is very high. This may rise to civil. Now if you find members of business and media as part of this, then you start entering not conspiracy territory, though would be part of th rap sheet, but RICO.
I am not a lawyer, but I know this country's treason burden of proof is so damn high, that we have had few executions and actually few convictions for yes, treason.
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)Each and every one...
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Cirque du So-What
(25,999 posts)I like to believe that the party I have chosen would never do something that reprehensible.
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)He wasn't elected anyway and had no mandate to do anything. Just think we could've stopped the tax cuts and no child left behind. The stimulus would've still been in place.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)That is why they would never do it.
It is a dangerous and deceptive game the Republicans play. And they do it very well...
craigmatic
(4,510 posts)markpkessinger
(8,409 posts)... that it was "just like the Democrats in 2000." I did my best to rip him a new one.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)I believe it was lincoln chaffee who exposed the meeting after little boots was selected. Where the repugs were told (apparently by cheney) that they were not going to deal with the democrats, that the WH was calling the shots.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)they have stooped so low, their words no longer matter.
malaise
(269,212 posts)Remember those names
Attending the dinner were House members Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan and Pete Sessions. From the Senate were Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl. Others present were former House Speaker and future and failed presidential candidate Newt Gingrich and the Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who organised the dinner and sent out the invitations.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)April 26, 2012 . . . Jon was very impressed by the book.
malaise
(269,212 posts)I'll check TDS's webpage and have a look - he was on GEM$NBComcast a while ago
shanti
(21,675 posts)that pig, Lungren, is right in the thick of it god, i cannot stand him! i do wonder if issa was invited to this, although his names not there...
malaise
(269,212 posts)because Frank Luntz dislikes him big time and word is that the feeling is mutual.
It did make me understand the Cantor Boehner tension.
Cirque du So-What
(25,999 posts)malaise
(269,212 posts)They are shameless
longship
(40,416 posts)Don't know if it will do any good, and it may even harm. But, if handled correctly, it would reveal the extent to which the Repugs are truly repugnant.
It seems that Axelrod is on top of it. Now, if we can only get a Fox mini-series produced, maybe entitled The Right Wing. Maybe Alan Alda and Michael J. Fox are available for the casting call.
malaise
(269,212 posts)and identify the Senators who blocked them. DeMint I remember for sure.
This could blow up in their faces.
Volaris
(10,274 posts)they are 9 kinds of FUCKED this November. There is quite a lot the American People (see Independent voters) will stomach from their politicians and national leaders, but this kind of...INTENTIONAL undermining isn't one of them, I think...especially when the target is a man who they might not all agree with politically or ideologically, but whom, when elected made this Nation believe again that it really IS possible HERE like it's possible nowhere else on Planet Earth. To plan and execute an attack on THAT concept is unacceptable to the "average American". And if they know about it, en mass they will not vote for it again.
The whirlwind is coming. And Mittens isn't the guy who can stop it.
renate
(13,776 posts)I would have liked it if we had been wrong--but of course the evidence that they were being purely and mindlessly obstructionist was pretty clear.
Well, maybe now that it's in print and in the media, it'll be up for discussion. Just in time.
malaise
(269,212 posts)I hope Obama includes it among the jokes tomorrow night so it gets serious airplay
This is fugging sabotage of the Executive Branch of government.
Leftist Agitator
(2,759 posts)And if (and when) found guilty of treason, duly executed as a warning to others who might contemplate selling out their country.
We need to send a strong message that it is not OK to betray the government of the United States of America, *especially* if the person in question is purportedly a part of said government.
malaise
(269,212 posts)no fight over student loans is a gazillion times more interesting given this meeting. They declared war on the Executive Branch the day he was sworn in.
former9thward
(32,097 posts)Are you still in mourning?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)This has nothing to do with Uncle Joe. The high standards for treason in the US go to King George the Mad...
By the way that was an interesting...attack, since more than a few on this thread pointed out this looks like treason to them. And while they may have a point...it is simply not part of the Legal Tradition and our standard of proof, legally, to a treason charge, is quite high.
Now if these boys are working with media and business, and it can be proven by the state, RICO comes to mind, and that, if there is evidence, would send a strong message.
By the way you agree with this plan to obstruct all? Putting party before country is quite sickening.
Oh and yes, echoes of 1858. Look it up.
former9thward
(32,097 posts)No it is not King George. It is very specifically defined in the Constitution. But many don't like that document and the "more than a few on this thread" would be in that category.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Why I have said in this thread that while some may feel it rises to that level, legally it does not.
But also telling somebody they may like Stalin, ignores where the definition of treason is, and chiefly why.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)malaise
(269,212 posts)<snip>
A determined Republican stall campaign in the Senate has sidetracked so many of the men and women nominated by President Barack Obama for judgeships that he has put fewer people on the bench than any president since Richard Nixon at a similar point in his first term 40 years ago.
The delaying tactics have proved so successful, despite the Democrats' substantial Senate majority, that fewer than half of Obama's nominees have been confirmed and 102 out of 854 judgeships are vacant.
Forty-seven of those vacancies have been labeled emergencies by the judiciary because of heavy caseloads.
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Delays in the Senate
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/chart-of-the-day-obamas-epic-failure-on-judicial-nominees/255651/
calimary
(81,527 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)We can't let this story die.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Forgot once again echoes of 1858....no, not a pretty picture.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)And Stewart didn't bring this up at all.
spanone
(135,898 posts)what the fuck was newt doing there????
malaise
(269,212 posts)So you see we are being lied to re the tension between the ReTHUG establishment and Newt. They are all on the same destroy Obama page.
spanone
(135,898 posts)Volaris
(10,274 posts)and re-invigorate the Southern Strategy for the NEXT election against the Very Scary Black Man. What else?
mainer
(12,031 posts)Just appalling. Thanks for posting.
blue neen
(12,334 posts)They did everything they could to hurt the American people.
I can't wait to read this book! Thanks for the info.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)after little boots was selected. The selected cretins were calling the shots, there was to be no dealing with the democrats. To me, it was a ruthless, greedy oligarchy. Little boots and his merry band of greedy thugs brought down this country economically; so, what does the current bunch of arseholes do after creating this fubar? Make sure that the you keep squeezing the people so you can get elected again. This just pisses me off to no end. All they think about is their global corporate lobbyists, how much money they can make and setting themselves up after congress. Apparently, they don't give a shite about the country or the people.
Destroying the people, destroying the country, if it's not treason, what do you call such betrayal?
malaise
(269,212 posts)ReTHUGS get away with way too much sabotage.