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A Saudi Arabian historian trying to justify the nation's ban on female drivers says women who drive in other countries such as the United States don't care if they're raped and that sexual violence "is no big deal" to them."
Saleh Al-Saadoon claimed in a recent TV interview that women can be raped when a car breaks down, but unlike other countries, Saudi Arabia protects its women from that risk by not allowing them to drive in the first place, according to a translation posted online by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
"They don't care if they are raped on the roadside, but we do," Al-Saadoon said on Saudi Rotana Khalijiyya TV.
**********get ready for the big ***
Since the rape argument didn't seem to be convincing anyone, Al-Saadoon tried another approach, claiming that women are treated "like queens" in Saudi Arabia ....
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"There is a solution, but the government officials and the clerics refuse to hear of it," he said. "The solution is to bring in female foreign chauffeurs to drive our wives."
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Yes, women who drive don't care if they get raped. So, not driving protects them from rape. So, we should hire female drivers to protect them from being raped by male chauffeurs...
My curiosity is... 'What exactly is he an historian of?'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/09/saudi-women-drivers_n_6649896.html
Exhibit A
(318 posts)I had a lot of really scary early mornings in college, waiting for buses in questionable parts of town. Stranger rapes were reported in the campus area on a regular basis, despite that scenario accounting for such a small percentage of rapes overall. I had a stalker who would follow me off the bus no matter what stop I used, cuss at me for not talking to him, and once actually tried to grab me. If I'd been in a car, I would have been a lot less vulnerable.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)The worst place, IMO, because your safe place never feels safe again.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Without realizing it, I was one of the first people to move into the building, which had been converted from commercial to residential. Contractors working on the conversion had been storing some of their stuff in my apartment and did not realize someone had moved in. Apparently, they still had keys or were given passkeys by the doorman. So, they'd show up at my apartment first thing in the morning, looking for a ladder or something, just as I'd be getting ready to go to work.
Once, I walked out of the shower nude, to find two of them just outside the bathroom door, chatting with each other. I screamed and they ran out. I think we were almost equally horrified at that moment, but I never felt safe again, especially since the building manager and doorman continued to allow people in without my advance knowledge if someone showed up I was at work. Finally, I sued. but even that did not stop the building manager from accessing my apartment whenever he thought he had a reason. (His idea of a reason included spying on a neighbor.) It was a horror show, and the fear lasted long after the events ceased.
Getting raped at home is on a whole different level, though, especially if your rapist is a relative or trusted visitor. Unimaginable.
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)the building's management sent workers just about every day one summer for who knows what and didn't seem to care that I lived there. I'm male so I was more worried about theft or them forgetting to lock the door when they left, which happened often.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)He had probably been watching me for several days.
Turbineguy
(37,337 posts)could have a great future in the republican party.
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)If you're so fucking concerned about women getting raped in your country, sir, get your headsmen busy on all the rapists you've got over there. It appears to me they're falling down on the job.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If Saudi women are in such great danger of being raped if they drive, it suggests to me that Saudi men are barbarians who cannot control their sex urge.
I'm wondering whether we should be allowing these oversexed Saudi men into our country. They sound dangerous to me. Perhaps we should refuse visas to Saudi men.
I don't want visas given to potential rapists and it sounds like Saudi men are a bunch of rapists.
Scary. Wow!
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)work to force the Saudi leaders to quit being such backasswards assholes when it comes to women's rights.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Astounding they ever got toilet trained.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)+1000
eissa
(4,238 posts)is to rape her rather than help her, then it's your men who have a problem.
I can think of no fate worse than being born a Saudi woman. Holy shit
merrily
(45,251 posts)ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)That these people are our great friends and only fund appropriate terrorism, and their religious police only beat women that deserve it and our country will love them forever, says big oil, one of our corporate rulers.
merrily
(45,251 posts)heating, etc.?
President Carter tried to tell us.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)If it weren't for "big oil", we could be WAY on our way to having those as the go-to energy source.
merrily
(45,251 posts)And it should have begun once Carter warned everyone, if not sooner.
The oil "shortage" during his administration should have sounded a warning bell that all America should have heard and continued to heed every day. Instead, he is still often called (mostly by Republicans) one of the worst Presidents. Amnesty on his inauguration day, sounding the warning about dependence on foreign oil, not going to war over the hostages, yet getting them back alive (which never would have happened if he had gone to war). If he had done only those three things in his four years, he would still merit heaps of praise. Oh, and add being truly devout, yet managing a high degree of separation of church and state, also very important to me, though not as important as avoiding war.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)But I still have no plans of curtailing my criticism of Saudi Arabia or the US kissing their ruler's asses while women there are considered NOTHING more than a possession, maybe even less.
merrily
(45,251 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Because we could have a lot more influence if we didn't care more about sitting our fat asses in lazy boys and watching how you mistreat women on cable and instead told you we would rather be cold and hungry than do business with you.
Even it if cost us money. Or cause us not to have to worry about attacks from the criminals and thugs others call terrorists.
Actions by Americans always speak louder than the words coming out of their two faces.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)And he isn't much of a historian.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)get hurt in any way.
The stupid is painful on this one.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)This level of 'stupid' lowers the general intelligence of the room. You can't debate or educate 'stupid' at this level, you need to basically call in an exorcist.
Grammar note : normally, the sentence goes "this level of stupidity..." , but we're so low down on the scale of evolution here, I have to mangle English grammar to make my point.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)10 IQ points dumber just by being exposed to it. Weaponized stoopidity.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)Nothing says "do me now" like a puddle of steaming antifreeze.
This "historian" sounds like he's got a perfect resume to be a Fox News commentator, with an extra helping of double plus stupid.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)from jumping on a woman if she shows an ankle or a wrist. Seriously, how fucking old are these jagoffs?
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Both in academe and in society I have been deeply concerned with religio-lunacy for over three decades. While not believing a word of it, I've long normally been able to identify the theological and doctrinal bedrock from which the lunacy springs. Here however I am at a loss. Other than the basic ideas of seclusion/purdah, which are only incidental to the negation of driving no more than they are to the negation of strolling through the park alone or the negation of taking up public poetry reading in mixed company, I'm failing to see the connection even in Wahhabi terms between driving per se and rape.
abakan
(1,819 posts)What one thing has to do with the other. Can anyone explain it? I drive and I care if I get raped but I think I'm less likely to be raped driving down the road at a rapid rate.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)almost seem sane and thoughtful
StevieM
(10,500 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)the anus mundi. Sounds like this manlike object has a severe case of recto-cranial impaction. Pretty much like everyone else in that gawdforsaken hellhole of a country.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)across the counter. American women can walk into any bank unaccompanied by a male and don't care about getting raped in a bank and in fact look forward to a teller helping them with a deposit or withdrawal.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I had no idea!