STFU Joe ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

Bebi has the RIGHT to speak before Congress?

No, he doesn't! Even at the behest of the leader of majority leader of the House.

This isn't about Israel's sensibilities; it's about respect for the Office of the Presidency of the US and about, more, it's about allowing the US government's diplomatic efforts to play out (i.e., world peace) ... So Joe, STFU.

[ProfessorGAC]

1. ^^^^^What He Said!^^^^^^

[madokie]

2. Its simply an effort to dis-respect our President

kick sand in his face if you will. It sucks, it being Israel and especially nuttyahoo. Why don't we just give Israel all our tax dollars so they can kill off as many of their neighbors as they can so no one will be a threat to them anymore. its all about the thievery that is present day Israel. There will never be peace in the middle east as long as we prop them up, simple as that. We need to shut the damn flow of money to them and need to do it right the fuck now.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

3. "it's about allowing the US government's diplomatic efforts to play out"

Nobody says that when lawmakers are getting involved in upsetting TPP talks.

[n2doc]

8. Except for the President's True Believers n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. What are you talking about? ...

How are these to matters, even remotely relates?

But that asked ... actually, I FAVOR letting the TPP negotiations play out, without Congressional input/interference ... that is the way the process was designed. Congress has a role to play in the process ... they, either, approve it or vote it down.

Besides, letting it play out allows us to have something to actually be upset about/favor.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

41. "I FAVOR letting the TPP negotiations play out"

But you aren't exactly bringing the same level of outrage against those members of the House and Senate that are trying to inject themselves into the TPP negotiations.

The outrage seems highly selective.

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. Again, what are you talking about? ...

Yes ... My "outrage" is selective, even highly so.

Color me outrage-selective, but why should I be outraged that Congress-folks (i.e., citizens and elected representatives of citizens) are exercising their right to represent their constituencies, albeit, prematurely?

And why, as a US citizen, should I give equal weight to that, compared to a foreign government's (and the majority party's) attempt to, not only, embarrass the Office of the Presidency, but to place their interests before MY government, when Their interests, oppose the interests of MY government?

I would have no problem with Bebi setting up a platform at 1599 Pennsylvania Ave and shouting his position for all to here ... I have a major problem with him doing so, in a formal Congressional gathering.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

55. Maybe a deal with Iran would be nothing more than Iran duping the US.

In which case a deal with Iran would be very much against the interests of the US. If so, then opposing that would be in the best interests of the US and any subsequent embarrassment (such as any embarrassment to the presidency from scuttled TPP talks) would be regrettable but not as regrettable as a bad deal.

[Comrade Grumpy]

57. That's Netanyahu's position. If he wants a war with Iran, he can have it on his own.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

59. Yeah. Israel is going to invade Iran just for kicks.

[lark]

62. Nope

Israel wants us to invade Iran, for their own personal enjoyment. They get rid of Iran, we pay all the enormous price in both blood and money. That's what they want. If they really wanted to invade Iran, they would have done it. We should not be their hired killers.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

64. The legislation being debated is about sanctions, not a Declaration of War.

[lark]

65. I know

but Bibi wants war and so do a whole lot of the Repugs. Enhanced sanctions is their fig leaf for the ultimate war they want.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

66. Evil, nefarious Jewish cabals bent on world domination.

Who'd've thunk?

[1StrongBlackMan]

71. No ... (See Post #70) n/t

[1StrongBlackMan]

70. Actually, Bibi wants a completely nuclear free Iran ...

and he is willing to allow the US to go to war to make that happen ... as opposed to allowing the US, Russia, China and Europe (i.e., the rest of the world) to negotiate a nuclear WEAPON free Iran.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

73. So they're not evil; it's just baseless paranoia?

[1StrongBlackMan]

75. Hyperbole abounds ...

I have, neither said, nor implied either ... It is Israel exercising/pressing it's interests, which in this instance is in contravention with those of the US, and, apparently, the rest of the nuclear powers of world, as well.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

81. Either Iran is a threat to them or it isn't.

It would take only the greatest leaps of the imagination to suggest Israel could pose an unprovoked threat to Iran.

It is Israel exercising/pressing it's interests, which in this instance is in contravention with those of the US...

Maybe. Maybe not. Too many are trying to shout down the debate before it has been had.

[1StrongBlackMan]

91. The "leap of imagination" is not that great ...

Israel has demonstrated that it will first strike, and is unconcerned with whether the rest of the world, including its primary benefactor, the US, deems the target of their attack as having provoked, or not.

Maybe. Maybe not. Too many are trying to shout down the debate before it has been had.

No one is "shout(ing) down the debate" ... plenty, including myself are objecting to allowing the Congressional gather, during a foreign election cycle, to serve as the forum for that debate.

I notice that you have yet to address, this:

I wonder what Netanyahu's response would be if, during the midst of Israeli elections and sensitive (and apparently promising) negotiations with, a member of his opposition invited President Obama (or John Kerry) to speak to the Israeli equivalent of Congress, in order to affect the elections and lobby against those negotiations?

I doubt anyone would be claiming President Obama's (or Kerry's) right to express the US' interests over those of Israel's.

That said, I am so glad President Obama is at the helm ... a lesser leader would likely meet this insult (by Netanyahu and Boehner) with a rash move like cutting off Israel (financially or military support) leaving Israel "no choice" but to blow up the entire Middle East by "striking first."

...

[Nuclear Unicorn]

94. Has Kerry been invited by Knesset?

If Kerry were to be invited my reaction would be the same as now: meh

If visiting a foreign nation in the midst of an election cycle to bolster one's standing with the domestic electorate is a bad thing President Obama didn't seem to have any reservations about the practice in 2008.

rash move like cutting off Israel (financially or military support) leaving Israel "no choice" but to blow up the entire Middle East by "striking first."

Yes, yes. Those troublesome Jews. Always running around, causing problems in the world. Picking fights with totally innocent people because -- well -- I guess that's just what they do.

[1StrongBlackMan]

96. Never mind. n/t

[lark]

111. Stronger

It's not that he's "allowing" us to go to war with Iran, he's pushing, dragging, lying, cajoling, destroying his relationship with the US president - all to get us to "kill" Iran for Israel. He wants blood on our hands, not his.

Nice of him.

[1StrongBlackMan]

58. Maybe ...

Maybe not. But Congress is not the place ofor a foreign leader to express that concern/judgment ... not if they wish to preserve the relationship.

Further, I find it noteworthy that so many are willing to accept the wisdom of a foreign leader over that of our elected government.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

60. But Congress is allowed to carry through with such processes as it deems appropriate to

determine if legislation is merited, i.e. sanctions.

If Congress passes sanctions against Iran and the President opposes sanctions he can veto the bill and then Congress can attempt to override his veto.

If the President thinks a deal with Iran is merited he can secure that deal but then he takes it to the Senate which then ratifies the deal, or not.

Each body stakes its claim and plays their political stakes.

It's a feature, not a bug; and to abandon it in the name of political expediency today is short-sighted consider the process is something we may well wish to block some GOPer's march to war in the future.

Further, I find it noteworthy that so many are willing to accept the wisdom of a foreign leader over that of our elected government.

If you want to get technical: Boehner and every member of Congress that would attend Netanyahu's address are also elected to a co-equal branch of government. What's your point?

[1StrongBlackMan]

68. None. I have no point ...

on what you have written because you have moved to goal post with each post.

I say, foreign leaders have no right to speak before Congress, even if invited. The speech is not only bad form, it confounds the Office of the President and allows a foreign government to exert influence of US foreign policy ...

You respond with some talk about TPP ...

I bite And respond to the TPP canard ...

You accuse me of selective outrage because I have no problem with US elected officials affecting US policy ...

You respond with what if the deal (I.e., US policy is wrong) ...

I respond that the US Congress is NOT the place for a foreign leader to press his claim ...

You apparently disagree because "TPP!&quot ?) ... Or, 200+ years of protocol be damned ... or something(?).

[Nuclear Unicorn]

72. "because you have moved to goal post with each post"

No. I remain right where I started -- Congress is a co-equal branch of government. The President has ZERO say over who addresses Congress.

I respond that the US Congress is NOT the place for a foreign leader to press his claim

Says who? The President has no control over who addresses Congress.

I have invoked the efforts by some to inject themselves into TPP negotiations as an analogy. You may wish to dismiss this as a canard but the analogy holds true unless shown otherwise. You started by complaining diplomatic efforts were not being allowed to play-out. Interfering with the TPP would fall under "not allowing diplomatic efforts to play out."

Either those legislators have a right to do what they are doing or they do not (I assert they do). If they do then what Boehner is doing is no different. You may not like that it is playing out before Congress but you -- like Obama -- have no say in that matter. The only say any president has involves the Executive branch. A president would be just as powerless to impede appearances before the Supreme Court because that too is a co-equal branch.

OK. People don't like it. Duly noted. Practical methods to prevent it stand at exactly: NONE

The practical response is to prepare a retort, a rebuttal, a counter-argument to whatever it is Netanyahu will say. So far no real argument has been presented apart from, "Israel sucks!"

[1StrongBlackMan]

74. Okay. n/t

[JustAnotherGen]

78. I'm glad you are stopping

Me - I'm against anything and everything Netanyahu. I was the same way with Bush/Cheney.

He's just like them.

I wonder how much money the 1% is putting in Net's pocket? They've GOT to be paying him off to behave this way.

[lark]

61. You're willing for the economy to be decimated,

for rich multinational corporations having more say on a country's economic, labor, and environmental practices than the government, by a treaty that most of the people voting on it have never even seen? You're willing to have a treaty that's 10 times worse than NAFTA, which has killed 47 million American jobs and empoverished Mexican workers worse than they were before, just so Obama and the multi-national corporations have a win?

Sorry, think our livlihoods and those of working class Americans, are more important than Obama's ego to most of us. I think our environmental regulations shouldn't be subject to the profits of the multi-national corporations, not should wages or a drugs cost.

Cult of Personality is sadly alive and well on this board.

[CTyankee]

4. Mika really pushed back on Joe today. And Mark Halperin agreed with her.

So Joe finally said he would have preferred that Boehner call the White House and request a meeting with the President so he could inform him of what he was going to do. Well, THAT's something!

I like the way Mika said the problem was the egos of a bunch of men. She said again "You're good at what you do" to Joe. He then STOOD UP to lecture everybody around the table! And again and again Mika said "that's not the point" when he started ranting about killing Israeli children. He came off like a defensive 3 year old trying to shout everybody down.

[RKP5637]

9. Joe's bottom line, "a defensive 3 year old trying to shout everybody down." It's often like

watching a bully child on a playground. Immature and hostile!

[whathehell]

11. True. He and that repuke hack, Dana Wallace were WAY over the top on faux outrage.

At our "disrespect" for Israel..Disrespect for the POTUS was apparently a non-issue.

[irisblue]

12. yeah Mika has been atypically assertive today

She pushed back to the guys @ the table about J.Bushs' newly hired Ethan Czahor tech official for his PAC. I was surprised.

[CTyankee]

14. I had to cut MJ short today so I missed that.

I'm dealing with snow issues...

[irisblue]

16. first hour, likely up later. How are things out that way for you?

I am so over winter.

[CTyankee]

21. I've got close to 3 feet of snow on the flat roof addition to our house and I'm trying

to get someone over here to get on it and shovel the snow off of it. I've had more but it's been several years and I've lost the name and number of the guy who did it. So I've called several places to see if they do it. However, my neighbor said his 20 year old son could do it. I said we'd pay him whatever he thought fair for the effort. He's a great kid and has helped us out before. We have a contract with a snow removal service but they're just doing plowing and other ground shoveling.

I'm really worried about that roof because the local news is talking about roof collapse now with all the snow. And another snowfall is coming Thursday and on next Monday and Tuesday!

We're both old and husband has had two spinal operations and walks with a cane. He cannot even walk on the shoveled snow as it is very slick.

[mountain grammy]

35. Good luck. All that snow can be scary when you get too old to deal with it..

we're facing the same thing in our mountain home. I know we'll have to leave it eventually, but trying to hang on as long as possible. We still manage, but it's getting harder every year.

[CTyankee]

38. I know so well. We don't have kids to help us out...his kids and my kids don't live

very close. So it's a scramble every winter. It's funny, I just dealt with my car's latest issues and some minor but annoying health problems. I feel like life here is a merry go round of one issue after another.

I can, if necessary, order groceries from my supermarket (for a fee) and my wine store delivers...just called them to get a case of chard and cab which should last a good while...

[Gidney N Cloyd]

44. Stood up? Shoot, I slept late this morning. Anyone have the video yet?

[CTyankee]

49. probably at the morning joe website...but maybe not because they do these in

segments, but you might be able to find it. He was also wearing the most godawful orange pants. REally strange...

[riversedge]

54. Short article: 'Morning Joe' Piles On Scarborough On Day Two Of Israel Freakout

I tune into Bill press show in same time slot. But good to keep an eye on Joe once in a while.







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'Morning Joe' Piles On Scarborough On Day Two Of Israel Freakout

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ByBrendan James

PublishedFebruary 10, 2015, 8:29 AM EST 2643 views

"Morning Joe" hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski went another round on Tuesday, following Scarborough's previous on-air outburst over the Israeli prime minister's planned address to the U.S. Congress.

"He does not have the luxury of vacationing in the south of France every other weekend like you," Scarborough growled to Brzezinski, after she again asked him whether House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) should have invited Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to needle the President. (Scarborough repeatedly called Brzezinski "smug" and callous about Jewish lives during Monday's rant.)

"Why do you want to silence the leader of Israel?" Scarborough demanded of his co-host.

Brzezinski proceeded undeterred. .............

[el_bryanto]

5. Wait a moment - let's not be too hasty. If Bebi has the right

Maybe we have the right too. Maybe, following that logic, we all have the right to speak before congress. And I think there are all sorts of issues that the Republicans in Congress could use our expert testimony on.

Bryant

[Thor_MN]

7. Is he a citizen of the United States?

We intend to treat visitors to our nation well (we often fail at that) but he does not have all the rights that a US citizen has. If he does have that right, then we absolutely have the right. Of course, Bonehead did ask him to speak and sure as hell doesn't give a damn about any of us, so I'm not expecting any invites...

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. I wonder what Bebi's response would be ...

if, during the midst of Israeli elections and sensitive (and apparently promising) negotiations with, a member of his opposition invited President Obama (or John Kerry) to spoke to the Israeli equivalent of Congress, in order to lobby against those negotiations?

I doubt anyone would be claiming President Obama's (or Kerry's) right to express the US' interests over those of Israel's.

That said, I am so glad President Obama is at the helm ... a lesser leader would likely meet this insult (by Bebi and Boehner) with a rash move like cutting off Israel (financially or military support) leaving Israel "no choice" but to blow up the entire Middle East by "striking first."

[Iliyah]

47. BiBi and his cohorts would claim interference and

meddling of Israeli's affairs. The GOP would scream NAZI. The corporate media pro GOP and BiBi's propaganda 24/7 . .

Oh wait, they are already doing that. Geez wiz, the double standard crappola. Keith O, Martin B. and other progressive voices gone, but Joe S. is still on spewing right wing bullshit and still trashing Pres O and Dems and he might be getting an evening show?

Double standard.

[notadmblnd]

6. Hey Joe, who really murdered that intern who was found dead in your office?

[Botany]

18. Oh that kind of thing happens all the time .....

Because a 29 yr old woman falling dead on the floor of an office with
1/2" hole on the left side of her skull and a crack on the right side
of the skull too is really common.

That summer of 2001 was a perfect example of the right wing control
of the media because we heard almost nothing about Lori Klausutis
but we did hear about Chandra Levy who was working for a democratic
congressman, Gary Condit, when she had turned up missing. Condit
was hounded from office but it later turned out Ms. Levy was murdered by
somebody else and Mr. Condit had nothing to do w/it. However the
investigation of Lori's death was handled by somebody who worked for
Jeb Bush and had never done an autopsy before and Joe walked away
from the whole thing.

BTW Joe's first wife divcored him after Lori's body showed up in his office.

[notadmblnd]

19. I think that should be the reply to every thing he says

he should never be allowed to forget it.

[Botany]

22. When Lori's body was found on Joe's office floor both Joe and his press person ..

... called local TV stations and media and told them that she had been in poor
health. He did that even before calling her husband and parents.

[CTyankee]

23. and there are questions surrounding his second divorce...like her putting out a

statement that there was no infidelity. It was kinda glaring that that denial was in her statement. I think it was negotiated in the divorce proceedings. It makes me very suspicious that there WAS some real playing around on his part...

[Botany]

27. I have really tried to avoid watching Joe S for years.

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When the BP well was spilling millions of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico
I watched as Joe S smugly smiled and asked if this was "Obama's Katrina?"

If people like Joe hadn't interfered w/the count of the vote in Florida in 2000 then
the oil spill never would have happened because it was Dick Cheney's energy
task force that told the oil and drilling companies that they did not need emergency
shut off valves for their deep water rigs.

CTyankee

[CTyankee]

31. Oh, don't even get me started on that!

[Botany]

33. I won't so I gave you a heart instead

[CTyankee]

51. OMG...thanks, I guess...

[notadmblnd]

89. you gave me one too, didn't you?

thanks.

[Botany]

101. no I just gave you a DU heart ....

.... I gave ctyankee both a DU heart and a real one too.

[notadmblnd]

102. that's cute. Thank you.

[whathehell]

86. Not "defending" Morning Joke, but someone on DU claims he was out of the office that day

so those accusations are not credible..I don't know.

[notadmblnd]

87. I did not claim Joe did it. I asked him who did

But I will tell you this. My office door has a lock on it and it is locked every night I leave work. If someone had been found dead in my office, I would be able tell authorities who had access to it aside from myself.

Do you always believe what you read on the internet?

[whathehell]

97. Okay..

and no, I do NOT "always believe" what I "read on the internet", but what's with the defensive hostility?

As it happens, I read it on DU, which, of course, still doesn't mean it's correct, but it does tend to have a bit more "cred" with me than just random internet crap.

[notadmblnd]

99. I wrote what I meant. I meant what I wrote

Why did correct me on what you felt was an unfair accusation when I made no accusation what-so-ever? Talk about defensively hostile.

I would appreciate it if you would explain to me what exactly was defensively hostile about my post?

[whathehell]

100. Oh, for fucks sake..Did someone piss in your wheaties today?

or are you always this charming?

Sorry, but I'm not interested in discussing ANYTHING with someone

possessed of your present attitude, so buh bye and welcome to the big I list.

[notadmblnd]

106. No, I think someone pissed in yours. You're not exactly prince or princess charming.

Oh, the dreaded ignore list. What will I do? Oh, I know, I'll survive. Go be rude and nasty to someone else.

[Takket]

10. I wonder...

If Pelosi, when she was speaker, had invited someone like Ahmadinejad to speak before Congress, would Joe's reaction be the same?

[Botany]

20. Or what if Pelosi had invited the President of France or Angela Merkel of Germany to speak ...

.... about what a cluster f*** the Iraq war turned out to be in front of Congress.

[CanonRay]

13. Uhh, he's a foreign leader, he has no rights here

except diplomatic immunity.

[CTyankee]

15. And Boner is a coward. Instead of contacting the White House and at least conferring

he ducked the whole question. I guess he didn't want to hear a lecture about which branch of the government makes foreign policy and conducts diplomacy...

[spanone]

17. if the politics were reversed, joe would be going nuts

once an asshole....

[CTyankee]

24. That's exactly what I was yelling at the TV this morning...

Hypocritical asshole...

[JustAnotherGen]

25. And since when do non American citizens

Have the same rights to Freedom of speech that I do while in the US?

I'm against any legislator that attends that speech.

At this point - I consider Nutty's behavior hostile.

He's being - a piece of shit used car salesman.

And those words ARE PERFECTLY acceptable to write about ANY leader at DU.

^Not a TOS Violation - been done/written before regarding Obama and was allowed to stand^

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

28. Really?

Netanyahu has a long way to go before he rises to the level of pos used car salesman in my books.

I'd probably get banned if I posted what I privately think about him and his Apartheidista apologistas who give weak tea excuses for why they have to run the world's largest open air prison and practice collective punishment.

[JustAnotherGen]

30. I see what you did there

[mwooldri]

82. December 15th, 1791.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The right to freedom of speech doesn't specify anything about "Citizens Only".

If Johnny B. had just picked the phone and called the President and said "Hey, just want to let you know we're inviting Bibi to have a chin-wag at our place" then that would be one less thing we could have griped about. My problem isn't with Bibi per se, it's Johnny B that I have issues with in not following protocol.

[JustAnotherGen]

90. Great - but he's a hostile intruder piece of garbage used car salesman

Who is getting more respect from those maggots in Congress than they give the Commander In Chief.

We gotta organize, get into that chamber and scream "You lie!" every time he tries to open his mouth.

We pay for that building - not him.

Freedom of speech and such . . .

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

26. Not the Joe I expected.

But I guess that would be a callout, heh heh.

[Gothmog]

29. Morning Joe is a hack and an idiot

I stop watching this show a while back

[marym625]

32. I think we should tell Joe to stfu - period

Always and forever

[JustAnotherGen]

34. Amen

He needs to shut his pie hole. <---- Saw that on another post - not about Joe. . . but about another man.

[marym625]

39. Ah I see what you're doing

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You little vixen you.

If I'm right, you won't ever have to worry about a hide.

[JustAnotherGen]

42. I like that - vixen! :-)

I'm like a white face monkey - agile, unpredictable and very very very very naughty!

[marym625]

43. Cool!

If you're going to be naughty, you should be as naughty as possible.

[mountain grammy]

36. Joe Scar is such an obvious hack it's pathetic

and then there's the young woman found dead in his office.

[Duval]

46. I can't bear to watch Joe! nt

[Baitball Blogger]

48. Since we have no choice, let him get on the record.

We're going to have fun ripping his statements apart.

[Rex]

52. It's true, the GOP is so desperate to get at Obama that they will violate the rules

that is how petty their minds are. Then again, when does the GOP ever do anything that is not a violation of some rule. The GOP exists as a party that hates government, hates the working class and does everything possible to help the .01% of America.

FUCK THEM.

[Bluenorthwest]

53. I think better arguments against the address would involve talking about the two previous Netanyahu

addresses to the joint Congress and those of the many, many other heads of state and world leaders that have made such addresses, the protocols followed then which were not followed in this case clearly highlight the actual impropriety of this particular scenario. Addresses of this sort are fairly common in the US Congress, but in this case the protocols and processes were not followed. That's the problem, they were not followed because had they been followed the address would not have been approved. That's the problem. Having speakers one side or the other does not care for, that's not the problem.
The person in the wrong is Boehner. What he did wrong was not who he invited but how and when. He's making problems for the future that he does not even think about, this is the digging of a pit he will later fall into, or other Republicans will fall into. He politicized something that is supposed to be diplomatic in nature.

[1StrongBlackMan]

56. I largely agree; however, ...

I can't /won't give Bebi a pass. You don't go to someone else's house, knowing that a (significant ) member of that family doesn't want you there ... even if you are invited, unless you don't care that you are stirring sh!t.

[Bluenorthwest]

67. I agree with Obama on this. I also can't agree with your analogy, as there are many a family where

one member is a raging bigot and their will should not prevent other family members from inviting whom they wish nor should it prevent those invited from attending.
I will also say that Republicans have in the past been very upset by people invited by Democrats, such as Nelson Mandela, whom some of them still called a terrorist. Upsetting some members is, as I said, not the problem, the problem is not following protocols. And that is a rather major issue which I don't think is well served by stomping feet about the persons invited.
Officials should learn and adhere to protocol and they should be held accountable. It's Boehner I don't want to give a pass to. Why do you?

[1StrongBlackMan]

69. I'm not giving Boehner a pass ...

that was one of the parts of your post that I agreed with.

I also can't agree with your analogy, as there are many a family where one member is a raging bigot and their will should not prevent other family members from inviting whom they wish nor should it prevent those invited from attending.

So you would visit a household where you KNOW you are not welcome? You must live a very eventful life.

[yallerdawg]

63. Fear and control.

How long ago was the Axis of Evil and days away from an Iranian nuclear bomb?

Let's see, same message today. And Netanyahu will be a couple weeks from his next election. So does fear and control work in Israel? Netanyahu must think so.

President Obama has changed and continues to change the dynamic of US/ Middle East relations.

The Republicans stand against all and any Obama.

[DonCoquixote]

76. "When treason doth prosper

none DARE call it treason" Alexander Pope.

And yes, allowing Tel Aviv to force a war agenda on this nation IS treason!

[TheCowsCameHome]

77. Joe who?

I don't get this.

[1StrongBlackMan]

92. Joe of MSNBC's

Morning Joe Show.

[TheCowsCameHome]

95. Thank you. I put him on permanent ignore

years ago. He's a jerk.

[guillaumeb]

79. If inviting the Israeli war criminal to address Congress

was the first thing the Republicans had done that showed disrespect for the President, I might accept some of the comments here. But from the beginning of his Presidency the Republicans have shown President Obama exactly how they think of him.

They refused to work with him, witness the 400 odd filibusters.
They refused to confirm appointments for any position without long delays. Some regulatory agencies still have open positions.
Calling him the "Foodstamp President". This from a disgraceful serial adulterer like Newt Gingrich!
The constant series of racist emails (sent from Republican officeholders) regarding the President that have been exposed.

It has never stopped. The Republicans simply refuse to admit that a black man can be the President of the US. This latest with Bibi is merely one in a long series of insults that will only end when President Obama is out of office, if then.

[1StrongBlackMan]

93. Agreed. n/t

[olddots]

80. morning joe is like the Kardashians

WHY ????

[Cosmic Kitten]

83. +1 Joe, STFU!

This youtube video of Netanyahu
shows us what he really thinks of US
and why he is being so brazen through
his speech to Congress...

Netanyahu... America is easily moved

Assuming the translation is accurate...

[SickOfTheOnePct]

84. The Speaker of the House has the right to invite whomever

he or she chooses to invite. And once invited, that person has the right to speak.

Of course it's about disrespecting the President, why should anyone be surprised?

[MFM008]

85. I watched MJ for a while

but it got to aggravating. I no longer watch it.

[Thespian2]

88. K&R

Excellent post.

[Cha]

98. I see where #Netanyahoo is mad cuz Sen Leahy is bibicotting

zizi2 @zizii2
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#Netanyahoo is hopping mad cuz Senator Leahy is #Bibicotting (h/t to Meteorblades on Dailykos) his speech. Wants support tweets. Ha!
10:47 AM - 10 Feb 2015 7 Retweets 2 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/10/chat-away-515/

lol "STFU Joe" is near the top!

[1StrongBlackMan]

103. "near the top"? n/t

[Cha]

104. Top of the Greatest!

[1StrongBlackMan]

105. I think that is my first to make it ...

"STFU Joe" will always be special for me!

[Cha]

107. "STFU Joe" is special to quite a few of us!

[FairWinds]

108. According to . .

col karen kwiatkowski it was Israel that convinced the
US to go to war in Iraq in 2003. She said that while working in the
Pentagon she saw US officials call the Israeli embassy for
instructions whenever anything happened in the Middle East.

[Jamaal510]

109. He didn't get the name Morning Joe "Blow" for nothing. nt

[DeSwiss]

110. K&R!