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Should Congress authorize President Obama to fight ISIS? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 OP
The ME countries need to be responsible for it. However, I believe we should provide support in the still_one Feb 2015 #1
And that is what he is asking for. Edited to remind people that what President Obama is asking for jwirr Feb 2015 #2
Thanks for pointing that out still_one Feb 2015 #3
Yes, if only to rein him in Proud Public Servant Feb 2015 #4
Notice dude on right Caretha Feb 2015 #5
They're stunningly crisp aren't they? If you're looking for ISIS look close to professional cleaners TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #6
I'm not really looking for them Caretha Feb 2015 #7

still_one

(92,190 posts)
1. The ME countries need to be responsible for it. However, I believe we should provide support in the
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:08 AM
Feb 2015

Form of surveillance and perhaps limited air support but no troops on the ground

It was the Iraq war that created ISIS and the media conveniently ignores that point to help keep Americans dumb

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. And that is what he is asking for. Edited to remind people that what President Obama is asking for
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:10 AM
Feb 2015

is what the Constitution calls for. He is asking for Congress to take a stand just like FDR did after Pearl Harbor. It is the Congresses job. He is using bushies old permission slip while this Congress sets back on their heels and watches.

As to what I want them to authorize. I want specific actions and time limits not unlimited power. He can always come back to them for more if it is justified.

Unlimited power to wage war? Never.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
4. Yes, if only to rein him in
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:14 PM
Feb 2015

Two things are important to remember here:

1) Obama, to his credit, is asking for an AUMF (as jwirr points out). But,

2) We've been fighting ISIS for 6 months without an AUMF. And Obama has made it clear that, while he considers it Congress' job to authorize military force, he's prepared to pursue this war with or without Congress, stretching the 2001 AUMF beyond any original intention.

Obama's message to Congress has been: I'm doing this; it sure would be nice if you said okay, but I'm doing it regardless. Congress needs to step up, not because our president needs them but because we need them to rein in the imperial presidency regardless of who is living in the White House.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
5. Notice dude on right
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 12:15 PM
Feb 2015

He's supposedly Muslim, correct?

Well...he's in big big doodoo...

He's breaking that "No Ringy Dingy Rule".

Btw, if anyone has any idea which detergent these guys use on their clothes, please clue me in because I've become disastisfied with mine, and I'm willing to give theirs a try. The "Colors look brighter & the Whites look whiter".

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
7. I'm not really looking for them
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 01:28 PM
Feb 2015

although I do admire their "stunningly crisp" garments. I'm sure they're in a studio somewhere, listening to instructions such as..."move a little more to your right".

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