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"When Are We Going To Stop Persecuting Christians In This Country!" (Original Post) napkinz Feb 2015 OP
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2015 #1
Every one of them is spot on. djean111 Feb 2015 #2
they are so UNAWARE on so many levels ... the latest right-wing meme ---> napkinz Feb 2015 #6
Not to minimize slavery, but the 'war we fought to end slavery' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #8
"fought the war to END slavery" napkinz Feb 2015 #11
That is, sadly, quite true. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #36
Now, mind you, slavery could *not* have lasted forever..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #35
Slavery was uniquely "suited" to the southern economy. Adrahil Feb 2015 #69
Some truth here, but do note what I pointed out earlier. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #84
I don't really disagree with any of that. cheers! n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #85
The Civil War was not fought to end slavery. Lincoln said he wouldn't end slavery if rhett o rick Feb 2015 #61
My son just wrote a paper for his AP US History class on this. FourScore Feb 2015 #63
"ALL" about? no. But the war was ultimately about slavery. Adrahil Feb 2015 #71
That's incomplete, I think. Adrahil Feb 2015 #70
When can we start? Is it now open season on Christians!? ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #3
... napkinz Feb 2015 #18
Oh, you're late to the party, bro... whathehell Feb 2015 #54
Yeah right more like phony persecution complex by the christians ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #64
The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry napkinz Feb 2015 #72
Nah, more like false equivalence by the More Politically Correct Than Thou.. whathehell Feb 2015 #81
It has been for some time. 840high Feb 2015 #60
it's not about going after Christians but the Christian Right (the fundamentalist wing of the GOP) napkinz Feb 2015 #78
Betty Bowers gives me a chubb.... KG Feb 2015 #4
Bwaaahhhahaha! louis-t Feb 2015 #32
for a second I thought it said cherub napkinz Feb 2015 #33
new quote from Betty Bowers ... napkinz Feb 2015 #96
It's not fun being a Christian Conservative ck4829 Feb 2015 #5
They had no problem with David Vitter keeping his seat in the Senate ... but President Clinton napkinz Feb 2015 #15
They do get the satisfaction Mariana Feb 2015 #31
"they derive much enjoyment out of that" napkinz Feb 2015 #38
"Hide, witch, hide. the good folk come to burn thee" hobbit709 Feb 2015 #90
I say that about covers it all. sheshe2 Feb 2015 #7
hey sheshe! napkinz Feb 2015 #12
oops ... "that about covers it all" ... can't forget this one! napkinz Feb 2015 #20
Cry baby! Lol~ sheshe2 Feb 2015 #57
K&R&Shared everywhere. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #9
So much truth. hifiguy Feb 2015 #10
I second your rec! yuiyoshida Feb 2015 #14
Textbook! MrScorpio Feb 2015 #13
Perfect. mountain grammy Feb 2015 #16
uh huh Iliyah Feb 2015 #17
sounds like the message the president was trying to convey in his speech ... napkinz Feb 2015 #24
I notice you put christians in single quotes, like one might do when exercising the No True Scotsman AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #55
So you don't think the people phil89 Feb 2015 #77
Good God, napkinz, you are REALLY on a roll! calimary Feb 2015 #19
I think it's called being in the zone napkinz Feb 2015 #21
Tax-free and can't drive a block or two without driving past a church. Liberal Veteran Feb 2015 #22
I know right? Thav Feb 2015 #28
How about we cut you a deal: Initech Feb 2015 #23
What they say when offered a deal ... napkinz Feb 2015 #37
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #25
Thank you for the Cartoons-they are great Gothmog Feb 2015 #26
The real question is...when do we start? atreides1 Feb 2015 #27
"there isn't any Christian persecution taking place!!!" napkinz Feb 2015 #39
Excellent collection Tsiyu Feb 2015 #29
message to Fundies ... napkinz Feb 2015 #45
Hear Hear Tsiyu Feb 2015 #49
You expressed my thoughts on this perfectly... Thanks... freshwest Feb 2015 #46
and you made me think on another thread... Thanks right back atcha... Tsiyu Feb 2015 #48
I put a sign with that slogan on it on my fence..... Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2015 #58
Absolutely brilliant! smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #30
Kinda like an elephent moaning about the ant bite from the ant he stepped on. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #34
:) napkinz Feb 2015 #47
Well Said! Thespian2 Feb 2015 #40
just so long as they don't hold office napkinz Feb 2015 #51
How do you tell the difference?... uriel1972 Feb 2015 #56
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Feb 2015 #41
Happy to K&R! B Calm Feb 2015 #43
Evil tiptonic Feb 2015 #42
K&R 47of74 Feb 2015 #44
This is how many "Christians" use their "religion".. as a way to hate.. certaintly not all or even Cha Feb 2015 #50
"the fake 'Christians' hypocrisy" napkinz Feb 2015 #52
they couldn't be any other way and make it in the GOPropagnda Machine. :( Cha Feb 2015 #53
Raphael Cruz.. misternormal Feb 2015 #66
MSNBC reports about outrageous quotes by Rafael Cruz, father of Senator Ted Cruz napkinz Feb 2015 #74
Calling Raphael Cruz Jr. misternormal Feb 2015 #95
I think the other Sherwood Schwartz show has a name more befitting Jindal ... napkinz Feb 2015 #97
Thanks for Posting These Leith Feb 2015 #59
, blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #62
RWers don't care about Christian teachings; Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #65
yep ... the Religious Right & Isis ---> napkinz Feb 2015 #80
Real Christians would never ask this question... ileus Feb 2015 #67
Actually, whathehell Feb 2015 #83
and yet that's the MANTRA of conservatives ... "Christians are being persecuted in this country" napkinz Feb 2015 #86
They have a lot of mantras, virtually all of them false, so whathehell Feb 2015 #87
agreed, it's one of several mantras napkinz Feb 2015 #88
Okay, I understand, it's just that on DU whathehell Feb 2015 #92
I made it very clear in my replies that this thread is about conservatives napkinz Feb 2015 #94
"Christians" are the most persecuting of the bunch. RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #68
What a steaming pile of horseshit. whathehell Feb 2015 #82
Not! RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #89
"not wanted in certain groups" whathehell Feb 2015 #91
Religious ones RoccoR5955 Feb 2015 #93
These idiots are a total disrespect to Jesus and the message of love that he taught LynneSin Feb 2015 #73
I think you'll like the article where this graphic appeared ... napkinz Feb 2015 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2015 #75
k and r niyad Feb 2015 #76
It can only happen after Caucasian males are no longer oppressed by The System... LanternWaste Feb 2015 #98
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Every one of them is spot on.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:12 PM
Feb 2015

The inability of some to see themselves is appalling. No self-awareness at all.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
8. Not to minimize slavery, but the 'war we fought to end slavery'
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:31 PM
Feb 2015

really came about when many capitalists realized they could get most of the same money without taking the rap for 'owning' people. (Not that they saw anything wrong with owning people, but it was better PR to hire 'free' people, who didn't make enough to ever get out of debt to the company store. You still recaptured the 'wealth' you gave them, providing them the same goods earned by the sweat of their own brows, while skimming off the top, bottom, and sides.)

As long as it was merely a matter of the morality of outright owning other humans, it was going to keep going on. It was only when the owners could start pretending at least a little that they weren't simply parasites living off others' work, that we decided to 'get rid of slavery'.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
11. "fought the war to END slavery"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:40 PM
Feb 2015

what the creator of that meme fails to recognize is the religious component regarding the START of slavery ...

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
36. That is, sadly, quite true.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:56 PM
Feb 2015

And certainly, the Southern transition from slavery being mainly economic to an entire social system, a way of life, was itself carried on the backs of a strain of (proto-fundamentalist) reactionary religious thought.....libertine, many Southern planters certainly *were not*! They were anything but such.....contrary, perhaps, to the fantasies of many a neo-Confederate.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
35. Now, mind you, slavery could *not* have lasted forever.....
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:39 PM
Feb 2015

....after all, it truly was a terribly inefficient system, overall, that worked for & benefitted only for those directly involved in the system itself, and those who directly profitted from it's proceeds.....and it screwed everyone else over, big time. Of course, I think that if it hadn't been for Abe Lincoln and the abolitionists, the Tenth Percenters of that era would no doubt have tried to keep slavery alive as long as possible, at least up until the economic collapse that would have inevitably occurred at some point(though I'm sure many of those neo-Confederates who aren't in complete denial of reality of what the C.S.A. was really about, and their ideological allies, would gladly argue otherwise).

But the thing is, even some of the more solidly prejudiced Northerners of the era, let alone much of the rest of the public(including virtually every social liberal), realized what a raw deal slavery would have yoked them with, if introduced into states such as Illinois, Indiana, etc.; otherwise, do you think the Midwest outside of Missouri would have remained free, if the majority of whites truly thought slavery would benefit them? I really don't think so.

And after the Civil War ended, many of the Tenth Percenters, even some up North, still wished slavery hadn't ended; by the time of Lincoln's election, slavery was no longer just an economic system, but a complete way of life, a system of social control, if you will. The end of slavery, and the start of Reconstruction, ended up presenting a dilemma to them.....which led to their promotion of eugenics, and the KKK, etc., in an effort to revitalize racism and to keep people divided and conquered; and sadly, to some extent, it worked for a while.

But the thing is, we don't often hear about certain of these details, now, do we?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
69. Slavery was uniquely "suited" to the southern economy.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:59 AM
Feb 2015

Slavery was an economic benefit for raising very labor intensive crops like cotton, sugar cane, or tobacco. All those crops are pretty tough to harvest, and very labor intensive. The salve-based work force actually expanded pretty dramatically both in raw numbers and as a percentage of the population as the 19th century advanced towards the 1860's. There was no real sign that slavery was near the end of its tether for economic reasons. The pressure to end slavery was almost entirely social. It would have lasted decades longer at the least, IMO.

Slavery was an absolute poison, as you note, and beyond its economic significance, it really did shape the entire southern culture of racism and even misogyny as the system permitted, and even encouraged rape of female slaves, and forced the silent consent of southern gentry women.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
84. Some truth here, but do note what I pointed out earlier.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:58 PM
Feb 2015

Slavery may not have been in *immediate* economic danger in 1860, that may very well be true. But again, slavery was a system that benefitted very few people, and held back many others, and therefore, held back the actual overall development of the South.

"It would have lasted decades longer at the least, IMO."


Perhaps, but only if the Confederacy had successfully succeeded; without that, it would very likely have ended by not much later than 1905-10, even if it took a major economic depression, and/or even outright collapse to do so....and yes, this would be despite the evolution of Southern slavery into what it became, a system of social control.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
61. The Civil War was not fought to end slavery. Lincoln said he wouldn't end slavery if
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 01:02 AM
Feb 2015

he could keep the Union united. I don't believe his emancipation freed slaves in the North. He freed the slaves in the South to cause chaos. My history is a little rusty, so feel free to set me straight.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
63. My son just wrote a paper for his AP US History class on this.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 01:23 AM
Feb 2015

It's urban legend that the Civil War was all about ending slavery.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
71. "ALL" about? no. But the war was ultimately about slavery.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:18 AM
Feb 2015

From Alexander Stephens' (VP of the Conferacy) "Cornerstone Speech"

"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the “rock upon which the old Union would split.” He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the “storm came and the wind blew.”

Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics. Their conclusions are right if their premises were. They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights with the white man. If their premises were correct, their conclusions would be logical and just but their premise being wrong, their whole argument fails. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle, a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of men. The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds, we should, ultimately, succeed, and that he and his associates, in this crusade against our institutions, would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as it was in physics and mechanics, I admitted; but told him that it was he, and those acting with him, who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal."

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
70. That's incomplete, I think.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 09:09 AM
Feb 2015

Lincoln was an abolitionist, make no mistake, but before the Emancipation Proclamation, he did make it clear that his goal was preserve the union, not end slavery. HOWEVER, he did consider slavery a very deep evil. And after the fateful decision to issue the Proclamation, the nature of the war changed. Read the lyrics to "John Brown's Body," one of the most popular songs for federal soldiers to sing. It is very clearly an abolitionist song.

The EP did not, and could not end slavery in loyal slave-holding states like Maryland and Kentucky. This is because Lincoln's powers to do these kinds of acts were limited to those states in open rebellion. But he did, of course, pursue the 13th Amendment with vigor, which DID end slavery everywhere in U.S. jurisdiction. Where I grew up (Southern Maryland), sympathies for the South ran high, but even there, by late 1864, slave owners were making freedom bargains with their slaves to ensure their farms and plantations would remain operational. Essentially, many plantations turned to share cropping, or to hiring the slaves as hands directly. With the approach of the end of the war, many slaves in loyal states began abandoning their masters, and the slave owners found less and less support when the attempting to reclaim their "property."

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
72. The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 11:47 AM
Feb 2015

This narrative has become an important rallying cry for a movement that has found itself on the losing side of many of the so-called “culture wars.” By reframing political losses as religious oppression, the Right has attempted to build a justification for turning back advances in gay rights, reproductive rights and religious liberty for minority faiths.

The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

read more: http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/persecution-complex-religious-right-s-deceptive-rallying-cry

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
78. it's not about going after Christians but the Christian Right (the fundamentalist wing of the GOP)
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 03:07 PM
Feb 2015

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
5. It's not fun being a Christian Conservative
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 02:20 PM
Feb 2015

In their minds, just by being different than them, you are already waging war on them.

They see every action they do is ALWAYS playing the defensive against all the attacks from all the number 1 threats of liberals, atheists, heretics, pagans, secular humanists, freethinkers, Muslims, feminists, etc.

This also explains why they love adulterers like Newt Gingrich and charlatans like Pat Robertson; they're already in the right by confirming their prejudices and so they represent the moral center, so they CAN'T be wrong or immoral, but everyone else is, and the Islamoliberalatheistpaganheretic genocidal attacks (AKA criticism) just prove how right they are and how wrong everyone else is.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
15. They had no problem with David Vitter keeping his seat in the Senate ... but President Clinton
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:01 PM
Feb 2015

Impeach!!!!

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
31. They do get the satisfaction
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:17 PM
Feb 2015

of fantasizing about everyone they don't like burning in hell for eternity. I'm sure they derive much enjoyment out of that.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
90. "Hide, witch, hide. the good folk come to burn thee"
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:06 AM
Feb 2015

"their keen enjoyment hid behind a Gothic mask of duty'

sheshe2

(83,771 posts)
57. Cry baby! Lol~
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 11:26 PM
Feb 2015

I had to post and run today, had to finish digging out from all the snow and get to work...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
17. uh huh
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:15 PM
Feb 2015

I'm Christian (Protestant) and am aware of what "Christians" did in the name of Jesus Christ and God. The Voodoo Christians is still at it - present day. The prosecution of Gays, Women and Minorities . . the poor, middle class . .

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
24. sounds like the message the president was trying to convey in his speech ...
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:54 PM
Feb 2015

But we're not supposed to be "aware" of that history. We're not supposed to acknowledge it.




And the reaction ...




AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
55. I notice you put christians in single quotes, like one might do when exercising the No True Scotsman
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 09:28 PM
Feb 2015

fallacy... interesting.

 

phil89

(1,043 posts)
77. So you don't think the people
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 01:32 PM
Feb 2015

Committing atrocities were Christian? Based on what objective standard of Christianity??

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
22. Tax-free and can't drive a block or two without driving past a church.
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:38 PM
Feb 2015

It's just awful what Christians are forced to endure to worship in this country. It's barely a step above feeding them to the lions for sport.

Thav

(946 posts)
28. I know right?
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:04 PM
Feb 2015

Someone had the nerve to tell me "good morning" instead of "This is the day the Lord has made, let us be glad and rejoice!" I WAS SO PERSECUTED AND OPPRESSED! For a moment, I thought I was going to be summarily executed for being a Christian! It was terrifying!

Then I remembered I was in the USA and not in a country where real persecution of Christians is happening.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
23. How about we cut you a deal:
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 03:46 PM
Feb 2015

We'll stop "persecuting" you if you stop actually persecuting and vilifying LGBT Americans, deal?

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
27. The real question is...when do we start?
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:02 PM
Feb 2015

Until I see churches being turned into McDonald's franchises, an occupied crucifix every 20 miles along the interstate, and TV ads showing Pat Robertson wrestling a hungry bear...there isn't any Christian persecution taking place!!!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
39. "there isn't any Christian persecution taking place!!!"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 05:33 PM
Feb 2015
The Persecution Complex: The Religious Right’s Deceptive Rallying Cry

The tales of horror keep pouring in: Two middle school girls are forced into a lesbian kiss as part of an anti-bullying program; an Air Force sergeant is fired because he opposes same-sex marriage; a high school track team is disqualified from a meet after an athlete thanks God for the team’s victory; a Veterans Affairs hospital bans Christmas cards with religious messages; a man fixing the lights in a Christmas tree falls victim to a wave of War-on-Christmas violence; an elementary school student is punished for praying over his school lunch; a little boy is forced to take a psychological evaluation after drawing a picture of Jesus.

None of these stories is true. But each has become a stock tale for Religious Right broadcasters, activists, and in some cases elected officials. These myths – which are becoming ever more pervasive in the right-wing media – serve to bolster a larger story, that of a majority religious group in American society becoming a persecuted minority, driven underground in its own country.

This narrative has become an important rallying cry for a movement that has found itself on the losing side of many of the so-called “culture wars.” By reframing political losses as religious oppression, the Right has attempted to build a justification for turning back advances in gay rights, reproductive rights and religious liberty for minority faiths.

The religious persecution narrative is nothing new – it has long been at the core of the Right’s reaction to secular government and religious pluralism – but it has taken off in recent years in reaction to advances in gay rights and reproductive freedom, and to an increasingly secular and pluralistic society.

read more: http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/persecution-complex-religious-right-s-deceptive-rallying-cry

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
29. Excellent collection
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 04:05 PM
Feb 2015

K & R

Many xtians want to BE god to everyone else, not worship their god. They are such sad, mixed up people, they think focusing on what they see wrong in others will solve their own deep-seated problems.

If their god is powerful, you'd never know it. Many Fundies make their god sound like a guy in critical condition in an ICU somewhere, who won't make it unless they can hurt someone in his name.



Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
40. Well Said!
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 06:22 PM
Feb 2015

But don't expect all those fake "christians" out there to understand. Ever. Concrete minds: all mixed-up and permanently set.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
51. just so long as they don't hold office
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:45 PM
Feb 2015

oh ... great, they just took control of the Senate and tightened their grip on the House


uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
56. How do you tell the difference?...
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:41 PM
Feb 2015

Seems to me both sides cherry-pick from the same book, the arguments that are used to say one side is invalid are often the same to say the other is invalid too.

If they use the same text, worship the same God/Jesus, then how can you say they are fake. That is unless, they don't believe in God, which I highly doubt in most cases. It seems to be cases of God believing in what the person believes.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
50. This is how many "Christians" use their "religion".. as a way to hate.. certaintly not all or even
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:12 PM
Feb 2015

close.. just the ones who work to give it a very bad name.

Mahalo napkinz for pointing out the fake "Christians" hypocrisy.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
52. "the fake 'Christians' hypocrisy"
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 08:54 PM
Feb 2015

what's scary is that's the Republican field in 2016!

Bush, Cruz, Huckabee, Santorum, Carson

misternormal

(1,269 posts)
66. Raphael Cruz..
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 07:40 AM
Feb 2015

Raphael Cruz is a Christian Dominionist. Dominionists believe that they, and they alone are the stewards of earth, and they will take, and hold onto power, with dominion over mankind until the second coming, but that's not all..

"God anoints priests to work in the church directly and kings to go out into the marketplace to conquer, plunder, and bring back the spoils to the church. The reason governmental regulation has to disappear from the marketplace is to make it completely available to the plunder of Christian “kings” who will accomplish the “end time transfer of wealth.” Then “God’s bankers” will usher in the “coming of the messiah.” The government is being shut down so that God’s bankers can bring Jesus back."

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2013/10/30/left-accept-ted-cruz-dominionist-messiah.html

misternormal

(1,269 posts)
95. Calling Raphael Cruz Jr.
Mon Feb 16, 2015, 07:45 PM
Feb 2015

"Ted" is like calling the tech assist specialists for TracFone in Bangladesh "Chris" or "Don".

I guess Junior is as ashamed of his heritage as Gov. Piyush "Bobby" Jindal.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
59. Thanks for Posting These
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 12:13 AM
Feb 2015

I've copied them all to my collection of cartoons that cheer me up every so often.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
65. RWers don't care about Christian teachings;
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 07:17 AM
Feb 2015

all Christianity is to them is a tool to advance their agenda and to control people. Their misinterpretations and misuse of their religion is what makes them similar to terrorist groups such as Isis.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
86. and yet that's the MANTRA of conservatives ... "Christians are being persecuted in this country"
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 10:47 PM
Feb 2015

hence, conservatives lack a functioning brain

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
87. They have a lot of mantras, virtually all of them false, so
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 07:29 AM
Feb 2015

why must we hear about this one 24/7? ...Just wondering

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
88. agreed, it's one of several mantras
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:02 AM
Feb 2015

from time to time, I pick a theme (or right-wing mantra) and post toons & infographics that convey that particular theme.

This week's theme was the right's Christian Persecution Complex.

edit: I picked that topic because of the conservatives' reaction to the President's speech at the National Prayer Breakfast.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
92. Okay, I understand, it's just that on DU
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:12 AM
Feb 2015

Christian bashing has become a virtual sport, and lots of us, even those,

of us who are not practicing, are becoming sick of it, ESPECIALLY because

the repeat offenders, will, when cornered, tell you they hate ALL religion,

but steadfastly refuse to criticize any of the other religions, like Judaism or Islam,

and that's just straight up hypocrisy.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
68. "Christians" are the most persecuting of the bunch.
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 08:51 AM
Feb 2015

Even here on DU, if you are not Christian, or of some mainstream religion, you are forbidden from posting in certain religion forums.
Sad as it may seem, this persecution even exists here, where some may think it has no place.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
89. Not!
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 10:05 AM
Feb 2015

Not, it is true. Even here, if you are not of a mainstream religion, your posts are not wanted in certain groups.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
93. Religious ones
Thu Feb 12, 2015, 11:27 AM
Feb 2015

People who do not believe in traditional religions are not permitted to post in the "prayer circle" group.
It says so right on their sticky page there.
The moderator considers certain religions "fake" religions, and they upset the "believers" of traditional religions.
Perhaps the group should be renamed "Traditional Religion Prayer Circle."

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
73. These idiots are a total disrespect to Jesus and the message of love that he taught
Wed Feb 11, 2015, 12:19 PM
Feb 2015

They use the bible to justify their hate when in the end they just find something icky and have no other reason to justify why it's icky so they say 'The bible told me so'.

Hell it's like saying the reason I won't eat Brussel Sprouts is because the Bible says they are evil. In the end I just don't like Brussel Sprouts but then again my hatred towards all things Brussel Sprouts are not denying the rights of anyone else. I won't even get upset if you serve Brussel Sprouts, my refusal to eat them just means more Brussel Sprouts for the rest of the table.

Response to napkinz (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
98. It can only happen after Caucasian males are no longer oppressed by The System...
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:21 PM
Feb 2015

It can only happen after Caucasian males are no longer oppressed by The System and Uncontrollable Urges.

(Insert PSA cartoon here which raises the irrational dander of the oppressed MRA)

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