Bush lied, thousands died, Obama lied, wedding licenses denied...big difference

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

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just sayin


I should have thought this through a little better.

I was just reacting to the rightwingers who love to call Obama a liar.

Michelangelo Signorile on Sirius made me think of it when he mentioned W and his lies vs this lie.

If I could delete the whole thread I would.

sorry

[frazzled]

1. Delayed (for some), not denied

People were getting married in Massachusetts, Iowa, and other states during this time between the inauguration and the eventual rescinding of DoMA and the court decrees.

I know, because my nephew was married then.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

8. Delayed is better, I cant change it now, too late. I dont want a single LGBTQIA

person offended by this, but I dont know what to do to change it.

[djean111]

2. I don't think people are making comparisons; personally, I just wonder what else he said,

in order to get elected, that was not what he intended or believed.
Also, if he did indeed lie about his feelings on gay marriage, it is a bit distasteful to me that he evidently invented a story about his daughters influencing him, the evolving, and all that.

[NCTraveler]

3. People were getting married in this country while Obama opposed it.

While it is wonderful to have a President who now supports equality in that aspect, others fought to the point it was happening even to his dismay. What Bush has to do with it is beyond me. Maybe we can all just jump behind drug testing for social service recipients. Hey, at least people wouldn't be dying in the numbers dealt at Bushs hands.

[demmiblue]

4. This is beyond disrespectful to the LGBT community.

Please reconsider this OP.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

5. Wasnt meant that way AT ALL, I was responding to the rightwingers who are

calling Obama a liar.

But if I can change it now I will, I dont want any disrespect, how would I do that?

I was listening to Michelangelo Signorile and agreeing with him that most in the gay community and gay activist supporters like myself knew he was lying and we knew why he had to, etc.

[demmiblue]

9. I am glad you are rethinking the OP.

I am also rethinking my response.

As a straight person, I am offended by this OP (not just for LGBT community, but for myself).

Thank you.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

12. Yeah, it took me one second to see your point. I was in a hurry and leaving the house

and wanted to get it out before I forgot..

And delayed vs denied is better too.

I think there is some importance to my point only in that Obama lied to eventually make it better, and people did suffer, no doubt

W lied and people died and W wanted those people to die, and he didnt care that Americans died too...

We need to remember that there are very bad criminals, murderers on the other side of the aisle, then and now.

[William769]

6. As someone who was directly affected by this

In this case The end justifies the means.

On the OP

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

7. I apologize, I was directing at the rightwingers who are calling Obama a liar

[randome]

10. Plus Obama's lie was needed to lay the groundwork politically for full legality.

At least I think that's the calculation that went into that.

S'okay, my father's gay. I know what you were trying to say.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

13. Thanks...None of us actually believed Obama when he said it, I assume.

I like your sig, Randall was a great liberal, amazing actor and he loved the theater more than anybody

[GeorgeGist]

11. Rick Warren was NO lie.