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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/02/11/obama-asks-congress-for-war-go-ahead.htObama Wants No Turf Limit on ISIS War
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As if we all haven't had enough of the MIC machine, do we really need another war with no restrictions, no turf restrictions, and it will not be fought by US military forces? But by "local forces"....who exactly will the US be paying to fight, are the local forces middle easterners or mercernaries? More "war time" authority...terrorism...churning out billions to the MIC, and the mercenaries...neverending war...neverending war time authority for unprecedented powers that began with 9/11/2001.
Who is the enemy? Who is IS-IL? And how do we tell who is who these days when mercenaries are fighting wars and stirring up trouble to incite wars, psy-ops and terrorism...huge paychecks for mercenaries with no allegiance to country.
dilby
(2,273 posts)mother earth
(6,002 posts)war with no boundary? It boggles the mind, and with a GOP majority, he may just get it...
leaving the bigger question...when do we the people actually come into the equation when everyone and everything
has been bought & paid for by a l% who shape the world and opinion to deal with issues at taxpayer expense.
With a corporate welfare state, we the people, are footing the bill for this farce of fighting terrorism with a faceless enemy, and we are
using faceless entities to fight it....talk about getting scammed.
I urge everyone to find VICE's episode on mercenaries and the new face of war for the age of terrorism.
We foot the bill while profits are made, but who is really the enemy?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)successor only 1 year to get us out. Either that or his successor must go for a re-authorization in which case it will become his successor's war, not "Obama's war".
Avalux
(35,015 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)funding for ISIS tomorrow, if we took action to arrest the powerful Saudi, Emirate and Qatari royals who have been writing checks for "wars, psy-ops and terrorism" going back to the mid-1970s.
For the history of the origins of the CIA's peculiar relationship with Saudi intelligence and the creation of modern Jihadi militias goes back to a 1976 arrangement -- actually a package of covert agreements -- made by then CIA Director G.H.W. Bush and then Co-Director of Saudi GID, Prince Turki al Faisal. BCCI was created as the funding vehicle for this joint intelligence operation, called the Safari Club. In addition to bank takeovers, BCCI funded A.Q. Khan's nuclear proliferation program to build the Islamic atomic bomb and the develpment of a global Jihadist paramilitary, programs managed by Pakistani ISI intelligence. http://journals.democraticunderground.com/leveymg/280
mother earth
(6,002 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Supposedly ISIS/ISIL/IS recruits within the US. Would suspicions of that be enough to authorize surveillance and could that surveillance be acted upon with military force?
What's the potential reach of such an authorization?
Is this the final gambit in the War to End All Boundaries on War?
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Rarely does the government declare it's going to move such boundaries before the mechanisms and procedures are already in place, and the public conditioned to accept them as normal and necessary.
It's 1984 plus 31.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)But couldn't this allow prisoners taken to be handled by military rules rather than civil law?
As you say there's a lot of equipment present. That makes clear ID sort of rhetorical.
But if we are authorizing the federal government to operate outside civil law within US borders, I think we could be turning a corner.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)We just saw it in Ferguson and during the 2013 lockdown of the Watertown suburb of Boston. This has already become the "new normal."
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)at least I think it kinda, sorta could, at least in Wisconsin.
mother earth
(6,002 posts)needed, but why even attempt such carte blanche? It's too much, a Pandora's box of unprecedented power that should not be granted under the best info available. We have been lied to and manipulated into war before...that lesson should answer all doubts.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It's one thing to have a trusted leader have such power. It's another thing to be authorizing it into a future with an unknown POTUS.
Imagine a lame brain like Scott Walker with that power and a military leader like a James Matton Scott?
It could be a real...who are you betting on in the Preakness?