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RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:55 PM Apr 2012

What would you think of the moral values of a person who does this?

The person signs a contract to charge $100.00 for a service. When they begin to provide that service they send a bill for $140 and say that's the market price for the service.


12 votes, 5 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The person has no moral values
12 (100%)
The person has moral values, there is nothing wrong with what they are doing
0 (0%)
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What would you think of the moral values of a person who does this? (Original Post) RB TexLa Apr 2012 OP
Must have been a republican. Stan Smith Apr 2012 #1
But the would have Turbineguy Apr 2012 #2
Other: That person has at least one moral value that is different than mine. nt ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #3
My feel on this... FarPoint Apr 2012 #4
Well, if the contract had as much information as this OP has I would say... Spazito Apr 2012 #5
It is business. Morals do not apply. Contract law does. FarCenter Apr 2012 #6
Absolutely correct. And the contract COLGATE4 Apr 2012 #8
Would he have lowered the price if the market price went down? Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #7
I do. . . Journeyman Apr 2012 #19
Good for you, but you are a rarity...unfortunately. Frustratedlady Apr 2012 #24
Ah, loaded polls, how I've missed you. (nt) Posteritatis Apr 2012 #9
I chose to pass because I feel as if there is some ulterior motive to this post. demmiblue Apr 2012 #10
Also no integrity. nt gateley Apr 2012 #11
Could I shoot someone for doing that and claim I was standing my ground? JVS Apr 2012 #12
No but you could plainly state that you don't drink with them LaurenG Apr 2012 #15
Poor RB. Maybe you should have taken that drink when it was offered. ret5hd Apr 2012 #13
I would say it was a health care provider if there were a lot more zeros. OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2012 #14
Never fails to entertain. flvegan Apr 2012 #16
Oh yes! LaurenG Apr 2012 #17
Before I add my vote, can I ask the larger context of the situation? If you'd prefer not to say, apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #18
Take that, lawn guy! Union Scribe Apr 2012 #20
Maybe next time you should drink with them. LeftyMom Apr 2012 #21
Contract law. Morals aside, the person providing the service is breaking the law. saras Apr 2012 #22
Not if there a section in the contract that allowed for an increase. Kaleva Apr 2012 #27
I fail to see what this has to do with morals. It is a legal issue not a moral one. If both parties Synicus Maximus Apr 2012 #23
True. If YOU are the person they signed a contract with, they're legally bound by the price. Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #30
Ahh, yes RobertEarl Apr 2012 #25
Worse, doctors RB TexLa Apr 2012 #26
Single payer is the answer then? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #29
No, charge more medical providers for fraud and put them in prison. RB TexLa Apr 2012 #32
Since when do doctors sign contracts guaranteeing their fees up front? WillowTree Apr 2012 #34
They sign them with preferred provider networks and then bill the insurance RB TexLa Apr 2012 #35
I don't sign contracts with you. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #28
The legal values of the person are shaky treestar Apr 2012 #31
My reply #18 awaits your perusal (if you haven't seen it) or action (if you have). Thanks. n/t. apocalypsehow Apr 2012 #33

FarPoint

(12,351 posts)
4. My feel on this...
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:01 PM
Apr 2012

The contract superseded the mailed bill. The contractor could say the bill just reflects a cost savings and accept the terms of the agreement.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
8. Absolutely correct. And the contract
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:20 PM
Apr 2012

calls for payment of $100.00, not $140.00. Victim only has to pay $100.00

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
19. I do. . .
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:40 PM
Apr 2012

If the price of materials goes down, or a project proves easier than originally estimated, we charge less for it. It's the correct and proper thing to do. It is, in fact, in keeping with the "golden rule."

Cash register honesty. It's the easiest form of honesty there is.

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
10. I chose to pass because I feel as if there is some ulterior motive to this post.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:25 PM
Apr 2012

Lol, I may be paranoid!

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
14. I would say it was a health care provider if there were a lot more zeros.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:36 PM
Apr 2012

What other business, you go in for service, they won't tell you how much it will cost, your insurance pays them an amount they seem to pull out of their ass, and you get a bill (with no explaination of what you are paying for) for several thousands of dollars that you are expected to pay immediatly?

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
16. Never fails to entertain.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:10 PM
Apr 2012

Because $40 is ultimately the all-or-nothing item to decide if someone has any moral values whatsoever.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
18. Before I add my vote, can I ask the larger context of the situation? If you'd prefer not to say,
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:21 PM
Apr 2012

I'll understand, but it's got my curiosity. Thanks.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
22. Contract law. Morals aside, the person providing the service is breaking the law.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:48 PM
Apr 2012

It's also possible for people to have different, incompatible moral systems, of which one isn't always "better" than the other, though sometimes that clearly is the case.

Synicus Maximus

(860 posts)
23. I fail to see what this has to do with morals. It is a legal issue not a moral one. If both parties
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:50 PM
Apr 2012

signed a contract calling for the payment of $100 the fact that the provider is asking for more is not an issue.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. True. If YOU are the person they signed a contract with, they're legally bound by the price.
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:15 PM
Apr 2012

Unless there are exeptions in the contract that are not vague.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
29. Single payer is the answer then?
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:11 PM
Apr 2012

If the government would just make all of us US soldiers, we'd all have health care with government the single payer. Then doctors could be brought under control?

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
35. They sign them with preferred provider networks and then bill the insurance
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:16 PM
Apr 2012

companies more than the agreed amounts.

Of course if they are dishonest with them, you know they are dishonest with their patients.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. The legal values of the person are shaky
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 10:20 PM
Apr 2012

If they signed a contract to do it for $100, then they are bound to do it for $100. They can't sue for the extra $40 - they'd have no basis.

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