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TALKING POINTS MEMO
2-20-15
http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/02/20/bill-oreillys-talking-points-memo-22015-airing-tonight-8pm-et
The Fox News host still hasn't gotten back to us, but here's his monologuefactchecked.
Hi, I'm Bill O'Reilly ... thanks for watching us tonight ... more proof the American media is corrupt. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo. This man ... 56-year-old David Corn ... who works for the far left magazine ... Mother Jones ... smeared me, your humble correspondent, yesterday ... saying I had fabricated some war reporting. Mother Jones ... which has low circulation ... considered by many the bottom rung of journalism in America. however ... in this Internet age ... the defamation they put forth ... gets exposure. and so I have to deal with this garbage tonight. Im sorry.
Mother Jones did give O'Reilly a chance to "deal with this" earlier. Before posting the article, we sent him and Fox News a detailed list of questions and asked for comments and clarifications. They chose not to respond at all.
basically David Corn ... a liar ... says that I exaggerated situations in the Falklands War ... and Salvadoran War.
The article did not use the word "exaggerate." It noted that there were contradictions between his accounts and the factual record.
Here's the truth ... everything Ive said about my reportorial career ... everything ... is true.
See above.
33-years ago in June ... Argentina surrendered to Great Britain ... ending the Falklands War. I was covering the conflict from Argentina and Uruguay for CBS News.
In his own 2001 book, The No Spin Zone, O'Reilly says he arrived in Buenos Aires just before the war ended.
After learning of the surrender ... angry mobs in Buenos Aires ... stormed the presidential palace ... the Casa Rosada ... trying to overthrow the government of General Leopoldo Galtieri.
News accounts, including the CBS News report, noted that a crowd numbering in the thousands had gathered to hear the president, but people grew angry after learning Galtieri would not speak, with many denouncing him and his junta as traitors for surrendering to the Brits. Media accounts do not describe the scene as a mob storming the palace, but angry protesters who set fires, broke store windows, and jostled reporters.
I was there on the street ... with my camera crews.
In a 2009 interview, O'Reilly claimed other CBS journalists were too fearful to cover this event: "I was out there pretty much by myself because the other CBS news correspondents were hiding in the hotel." Yet veteran CBS News reporter Bob Schieffer, who was then the lead correspondent in Buenos Aires says, "We were all out with our camera crews that day to cover the protest. I'd been out there with a crew too."
The violence was horrific. ... as Argentine soldiers ... fired into the crowd ... who were responding with violent acts of their own. My video of the combat ... led the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather that evening. and later on ... I filed a report ... that ran nationwide. That's what happened.
In tonight's account, O'Reilly doesn't sayas he has previously saidthat Argentine troops gunned down civilians and many were killed. So is he standing by those prior assertions? He does still refer to the protest as "combat."
I never said I was on the Falkland Islands... as Corn purports ... I said I covered the Falklands War ... which I did.
See above. O'Reilly said on his own show in 2013, "I was in a situation one time, in a war zone in Argentina, in the Falklands." In his 2001 book, he wrote, "I've reported on the ground in active war zones from El Salvador to the Falklands." The "active war zone" in the Falklands war was 1,200 miles from Buenos Aires, far out in the Atlantic ocean.
Now ... in what I consider to be a miracle ... I found this CBS internal memo from 33 years ago ... praising my coverage that day. The cable was sent to the CBS bureau chief in Buenos Aires ... by the news desk here in New York City: "Doyle, O'Reilly didn't have the time last night but would like to say many thanks for the riot piece last night. WCBS-TV and WCAU-TV both took the entire piece, instead of stripping it for pix. They called to say thanks for a fine piece. "Thanks again. Your piece made the late feed, a winner last night."
No one has suggested O'Reilly did not cover the protest or that the footage he obtained was not valuable for CBS News.
Want more? ... here it is: Shortly after my crew and I ... escaped grave danger on the streets of Buenos Aires ... I wrote to CBS News boss Ed Joyce ... praising the crews bravery. I have the letter: "The crews were great the riot had been very bad, we were gassed, shot at, and I had the best vantage point in which to report the story."
No one has suggested that O'Reilly and his crew did not perform well while covering a protest that turned ugly.
So we have rock solid proof ... that David Corn ... smeared me ... and some websites that picked up his defamation ... did as well.
Actually, no.
Now ... I had to spend hours last night ... on the phone with various reporters ... and crawling around my basement covered with dust to find documents from 33 years ago. Again, it was a miracle I found them. all because an irresponsible ... guttersnipe ... a far left zealot ... who has attacked Fox News many times before ... spit this stuff out on the net. and you know what? ... nothing is going to happen to David Corn.
O'Reilly neglected to mention that during one of those interviews he said, "I expect David Corn to be in the kill zone. Where he deserves to be." In an email to Fox News executives, Mother Jones' editors in chief asked O'Reilly to renounce this remark and apologize for responding in a violent tone. So far he has not done so.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/02/david-corn-response-oreilly-falklands
marym625
(17,997 posts)Let's take them down one by one!
K&R
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Seriously my parents both recently said FOX news has never lied and challenged everyone else in a FB thread to prove they have ever lied. Several people sent links to articles detailing their lies but they were all dismissed by them as being from untrustworthy left leaning news sources.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)all evidence to the contrary is dismissed and left wing fanatics. It's maddening. WTF is wrong with people?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Here is their God:
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Is that the same thing as "the frothing left"?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026256636#post30
O'Loofah is sounding more and more like some posters on DU.
Or perhaps some posters sound more and more like O"Loofah, take your pick.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)almost sounds like something Rick Santorum would say or a log cabin republican with issues.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)The Billd'oh famously screwed up the historical record on Malmedy, claiming that allied soldiers massacred surrendering SS troops. Rather than acknowledging his bassackwards revisionism he accused General Wesley Clark of having his facts wrong on the matter.
The Billd'oh is never more convinced of his own infallibility than when he is provably wrong. And anyone who dares to disagree with him does so out of a deep hatred of Murka.
Bleccchhh.
Gothmog
(145,330 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)plug, as well. Good for David Corn. I think he's getting some TV pundit time, too.
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Cha
(297,323 posts)ZX86
(1,428 posts)Bill does not lie! He's an American hero! I know because I read it in the Paris Business Review.