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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:01 PM Feb 2015

hand wash your dishes with that sketchy sponge, it's good for ur kids

Most parents want their children to live in an environment that's clean and sanitary. We all buy home appliances that allow us to keep our homes as spotless as possible with little effort.

But increasingly, research indicates that a little bit of dirt and bacteria may be a good thing. The newest study to lend support for the so-called "hygiene hypothesis" finds children are less likely to have allergies if they live in homes where dishes and food utensils are washed by hand rather than in a dishwasher. The hygiene hypothesis is the idea that early exposure to an array of different microbes is needed to help a child develop a healthy immune system.

"The whole idea is that humans and all mammals live in homeostasis with all their bacteria in their lungs, skin and GI tract," David Rosenstreich, chief of the division of the allergy and immunology at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine and Montefiore Medical Center, told CBS News. "Having a lot of different bacteria growing inside you tends to stimulate the immune system and makes things stronger."

The new study, published Monday in the journal Pediatrics, involved 1,029 children aged 7 and 8 from Sweden. Families filled out questionnaires about their children's history of asthma, eczema and rhinoconjunctivitis (mucous membrane inflammation that causes itchy and watery eyes and congested sinuses).

The researchers found that children living in homes where dishes were done the old-fashioned way -- by hand with a sponge -- were far less likely to have these common allergic conditions.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hand-wash-dinner-plates-to-protect-kids-from-allergies/

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hand wash your dishes with that sketchy sponge, it's good for ur kids (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 OP
When the sponge gets really, really sketchy to the point it starts to smell Warpy Feb 2015 #1
Cool abelenkpe Feb 2015 #2
I have never used a dishwasher Skittles Feb 2015 #3
If you use hot water to wash and rinse dishes by hand it can be less efficient than a dishwasher Fumesucker Feb 2015 #7
That's what dishpans are for... countryjake Feb 2015 #16
My dog chewed the last pair a while back.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #17
I'm like Warpy, hot dishpans make my hands feels better... countryjake Feb 2015 #19
Me either. nt cwydro Feb 2015 #15
I put my dishes and utensils in the dish washer. dilby Feb 2015 #4
I had to give up that cast iron skillet that I had seasoned and lugged during my several CTyankee Feb 2015 #6
Yeah I have 4 pans of various sizes and 4 pots. dilby Feb 2015 #8
god bless. And we agree on charcoal grilling... CTyankee Feb 2015 #9
i inherited a bunch of cast iron from my grandma. she would fix them for resale. they had been left. pansypoo53219 Feb 2015 #13
Scientists also think childhood booger eating is beneficial. tridim Feb 2015 #5
Oh please! nt elias49 Feb 2015 #18
Are you the most immunist? FSogol Feb 2015 #21
That has been a hypothesis of mine for some time now Cirque du So-What Feb 2015 #10
that is a very interesting story. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #22
Our street would flood frequently when I was a kid. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2015 #28
My sister almost had heart failure when she saw I used a sponge... one_voice Feb 2015 #11
I do that! Also, when I bleach the coffee & tea mugs, I soak the sponge too. Demit Feb 2015 #26
I've long abided by the 5 second rule. Avalux Feb 2015 #12
I only use brushes. For some reason I have had a sponge phobia smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #14
I get your sponge issue. a la izquierda Feb 2015 #24
Odd question, but does it make you cringe... tridim Feb 2015 #30
Who is going to hand wash all those dishes in school cafeterias? blue neen Feb 2015 #20
Not great advice about the sponge unless you are a vegetarian. hunter Feb 2015 #23
My dishwasher is where I store my woks. Blue_In_AK Feb 2015 #25
Prefer dishcloths myself..... daleanime Feb 2015 #27
I know this research... grasswire Feb 2015 #29
Well then, my kids are going to have to do the dishes Ilsa Feb 2015 #31

Warpy

(114,389 posts)
1. When the sponge gets really, really sketchy to the point it starts to smell
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:05 PM
Feb 2015

wetting it and sticking it in the microwave for a minute or two will extend its life.

My dishwasher has always been at the ends of my arms, hot water just feels too good on my arthritic hands. I only lived in a place with a dishwasher once and the only thing I ever used one for was sterilizing the bottles when I was bottling homebrew beer.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. If you use hot water to wash and rinse dishes by hand it can be less efficient than a dishwasher
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

I don't have a dishwasher, no place in my tiny kitchen for one.

Also suffer from dry skin on my hands and getting them in soapy water removes what natural oils are in my skin and aggravates the condition, particularly in winter.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
17. My dog chewed the last pair a while back..
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:29 PM
Feb 2015

I can do dishes and only get two fingers wet..

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
19. I'm like Warpy, hot dishpans make my hands feels better...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:43 PM
Feb 2015

but I'll pull the gloves out from under the sink once Winter arrives, too, cause dry, bleeding knuckles make sore joints hurt even worse.

I've never lived anywhere that had a dishwasher, but I've worked for lots of houses that had them, and those families eventually agreed with me that automatic dishwashers are a tremendous waste of both water and electricity and ultimately paid me for my amazing dish washing ability.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
4. I put my dishes and utensils in the dish washer.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:25 PM
Feb 2015

But all my pots, pans, knives and cutting boards are washed by hand. My pots and pans are also cast iron so I don't use soap on them at all, just hot water and a sponge.

CTyankee

(67,795 posts)
6. I had to give up that cast iron skillet that I had seasoned and lugged during my several
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:31 PM
Feb 2015

moves over the years. It was just too much trouble, despite my Southern upbringing that dictated to me that I had to fry my chicken in it. And geez, was it heavy!

I got a fine frying pan that I can use and hold my head up doing so. And it isn't so damn heavy...but I don't fry chicken any more. Everything is a variant of my very basic evoo, white wine reduction, with chopped fresh garlic and flat leaf parsley...

dilby

(2,273 posts)
8. Yeah I have 4 pans of various sizes and 4 pots.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:37 PM
Feb 2015

They weigh a ton but I swear by cooking with cast Iron, everything turns out perfect, the surface is perfectly seasoned so no sticking and I just feel food tastes better. But I am also the type who refuses to use a Gas grill because if it's not charcoal it's not grilling.

pansypoo53219

(22,889 posts)
13. i inherited a bunch of cast iron from my grandma. she would fix them for resale. they had been left.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 06:39 PM
Feb 2015

i kept the lightest weighing large frying pan. i found a spare covered griswald chicken pot for when the 1/2 rusted away one dies. it makes the best roasts.

Cirque du So-What

(29,458 posts)
10. That has been a hypothesis of mine for some time now
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:41 PM
Feb 2015

Among friends and acquaintances, the overwhelming majority of those who obsessively cleaned and sanitized were the families with allergic and asthmatic children.

And now, my anecdote.

As a child I swam and played along the banks of the Ohio River in the days before regulations requiring wastewater treatment, making it literally an open sewer. The only concession to 'hygiene' amounted to swimming upstream from the town's sewer pipe or going at least a half-mile downstream from it. Years later, I took the series of vaccinations for hepatitis B as part of becoming a medical first responder. When the results came back, my seroconversion rate (a measure of the number of antibodies produced in response to the HBV organisms) was roughly ten times greater than anyone else's who got vaccinated at that time. I believe it was due to my exposure to a smorgasbord of organisms at an early age.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,387 posts)
28. Our street would flood frequently when I was a kid.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:42 PM
Feb 2015

The Maple Avenue River we called it. We would run and play and ride our bikes through what was basically backed up sewer water.

I laugh at my friends who insist on sanitizing everything their kids touch.















one_voice

(20,043 posts)
11. My sister almost had heart failure when she saw I used a sponge...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:45 PM
Feb 2015

she was all 'OMG...do you know what kinds of germs...blah blah blah' She was putting it in the microwave every day.

I drink hot tea every morning. So every couple days I take the boiling water and pour it on the sponge. It never stinks. When it's worn out I toss it.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
26. I do that! Also, when I bleach the coffee & tea mugs, I soak the sponge too.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:25 PM
Feb 2015

I've never had a sponge smell, ever.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
12. I've long abided by the 5 second rule.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 05:48 PM
Feb 2015

I've got a background in infectious diseases, so this may seem silly to you. But there is a 5 second rule, that if you drop food on the floor, it's ok if you pick it up and eat it within 5 seconds (provided the floor isn't filthy).

I raised my three girls in a clean home, but not sterile. I won't use antibacterial products, and have always known that exposure to normal everyday 'dirt' is good for the immune system. They rarely needed antibiotics and are healthy today.

It's common sense, really.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. I only use brushes. For some reason I have had a sponge phobia
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:18 PM
Feb 2015

ever since I was I child. They have always grossed me out. I hate wet cloth as well. I don't use washcloths either. Loofahs or just lather up. It's just always been a weird thing with me, I don't particularly have any strong convictions about it.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
30. Odd question, but does it make you cringe...
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:51 AM
Feb 2015

thinking about putting cloth in your mouth and biting down on it?

I'm not sponge or washcloth phobic, but thinking about fibrous cloth getting stuck in my teeth makes me squirm. I've always suspected it's a mild autistic symptom.

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
20. Who is going to hand wash all those dishes in school cafeterias?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 08:47 PM
Feb 2015

Not very practical or practicable.

hunter

(40,375 posts)
23. Not great advice about the sponge unless you are a vegetarian.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 09:26 PM
Feb 2015

U.S.A. supermarket factory farm meat is simply gross, that's why the labels tell you to heat it to 160oF throughout to kill everything. Antibiotic resistant bacteria should not be encouraged. I'm always very careful washing up if I'm cooking with supermarket meat or eggs.

Our kids got their bacteria the old fashioned way, by breastfeeding, playing in the dirt with their parents, eating fruits and vegetables directly from the garden, and the dogs licking their faces.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
25. My dishwasher is where I store my woks.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:18 PM
Feb 2015

My husband loves to wash dishes, so we haven't had the dishwasher on for 12 years. It would probably leak all over the floor now from dried-up seals.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
27. Prefer dishcloths myself.....
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:25 PM
Feb 2015

after a couple of usages they get washed and then it's back in the drawer.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
29. I know this research...
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:43 PM
Feb 2015

...but I also know that the children in two families close to me are constantly sick with pinkeye, strep, otitis media, enterovirus, eczema, simple colds, and so on. Ages 6, 8, 3 and 3. One of these families deliberately does not believe in handwashing and other measures for hygiene, and is very lax about sanitary conditions. The other family practices more handwashing But those kids are sick all the time, too. Maybe it's more complicated than germs/no germs.

Ilsa

(63,837 posts)
31. Well then, my kids are going to have to do the dishes
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:07 AM
Feb 2015

BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO. I did dishes growing up. I still had allergies. And now that I'm older my hands can't handle the heat, even with gloves. Washing with gloves can also cause problems. So it's the electric dishwasher for me. High heat, please. I don't like having intestinal problems.

Besides, I bet the kids get exposed to plenty of germs at school.

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