God I just wish Women ran the World.

[trumad]

Oh sure there are a couple of Marine Le Pen's out there.... but over all we'd be so much better off.

I've so had it with the arrogant assholes and their condescending attitude toward Women.

My wife of twenty years is a hundred times smarter than me, more organized, rational, understanding, and terrific when a family crisis occurs.

Is she my equal--- please---- she blows me away.

[Scuba]

1. Me too.

[trumad]

2. I would gladly move over and let them run with it...

[Scuba]

4. They can't do any worse than we've been doing.

[RadiationTherapy]

3. This wistful, worshipful nonsense is part of the problem.

You either think women are human or you don't. Pedestals are for artists and divas.

[trumad]

5. worshipful

You're God Damn right I worship them.

Thanks for the kick.

[RadiationTherapy]

7. Uh, yeah, I can tell.

Sorry you don't see the connection: Blacks are more athletic, Asians are smarter, Natives are more spiritual...and on and on. Separate and propagate.

[trumad]

19. What---I'm supposed to see YOUR connection...

Is that it--- Your way or the highway.

[RadiationTherapy]

26. Um, yeah. I'm shoving my big, rock-hard opinion down your throat.

My harshly worded retort was a power play to satisfy my sadistic, authoritarian personality.

[trumad]

31. No dude---it's a little rock.

[RadiationTherapy]

34. HAhahahahaha! Holy shit. Now I know something about you

and your artifice. I won't forget how this went for you and how you handled it. hahahaha. Hilarious!

[trumad]

36. hey---you're the one bragging about your "Big Rock".

You know what they say about dudes who brag about that--- it usually aint the case.

[RadiationTherapy]

39. Actually, I was toying with your hyperbolic contextualization of my earlier post

which had no hint of "my way or the highway". That was disingenuous of you.

[seabeyond]

11. +1. and it goes so far beyond this.... nt

[RadiationTherapy]

12. The old modified Madonna/Whore paradigm.

"Women are perfect! Unless they are completely evil fuck-ups, of course." No pressure.

[seabeyond]

14. and men are just so biologically bad they cant help themselves, mommy take care of us.

no pedestal. it is really about control and dominance and condescending behavior. no thank you

[trumad]

15. Well guess what---

it will be Men who will take away your rights....and are currently doing their best to do so......

You OK with that?

[seabeyond]

20. right trumad. that is logical. dont put women on pedestal = i want my rights

taken away.

[trumad]

22. "pedestal"

Me advocating that women have the majority of leadership roles in the world is putting them on a pedestal?

Wake up seabeyond...Men are at war with you and your female compatriots..... if you don't think they are---then prepare yourself to be steamrolled.

[seabeyond]

24. thank you so much on educating me about womens role in this world,,,,,

i waz just sittin here in a slumber about womens position in the whole scheme of things.

i think my eyes are finally opening.

[trumad]

25. What role?

Do they have a role in DC?

Do they?

[seabeyond]

28. i am all for an equality in the genders. i do not profess the need for one to be dominate over the

other. or one is a shining light beyond the other. humans are just that. characteristics the will be a bonus and a negative, depending on the person. not gender.

[trumad]

29. 17 Senators out of 100 in the Senate.

17.

It's time to flip that.

keep it staus quo and guess what---that number will diminish.

In mho--- the male humans want to take away the rights of the female humans.

[seabeyond]

32. again, your post was not reasoned like this post. yes, we need more women in the govt

than what we have. i wont argue that. plenty of women on the right are allowing the taking away rights of women, right along with the men. plenty of the men on the left are standing up for womens rights.

do we need more women as representatives, you betcha.

[NCTraveler]

37. The list of women trying to take our rights is pretty long.

[Zalatix]

62. No patriarchy, no matriarchy, I'll take none of the above, thank you

[jp11]

38. Well put.

[hfojvt]

61. Well for myself< I think I could handle it, if

more women acknowledged MY awesomeness.

[Orsino]

75. If we ran the sort of world that welcomed women into equal partnerships in government...

...we wouldn't be the sort of society beset with our current ills.

[HiPointDem]

77. +1.

[madokie]

6. I could have written that myself

Except of course I didn't. I agree with you. My wife is the rock

[Taitertots]

8. Why can't both sexes run the world together?

Having the world run by only women will yield just as shitty results as when it was run exclusively by men.

[trumad]

16. Because it aint happening....

and we're not even close.

[joeglow3]

42. Why are only the extremes the available options

Why not seek out a balance that is representative of the population?

[trumad]

43. Love to

It hasn't happened---live ever...and it probably won't happen in my lifetime.

[pipoman]

65. Has a better chance than women suddenly ruling the world..

there has at least been some headway in the last 100 or so years

[Egalitarian Thug]

55. Why do you say that? n/t

[Taitertots]

99. Because either way half the population is being discriminated against

Women discriminating against Men is no better than Men discriminating against Women.

[Egalitarian Thug]

103. Why would you assume that, were women in charge, they would treat men

as badly as men have treated women for millennia?

[Taitertots]

104. One sex being in charge of the other IS discrimination, period

Even if we assume that Women will benevolent, it is still discrimination.

Since Women are human, I find no reason to believe that they are magically going to be able to have absolute power without being corrupted absolutely.

[cali]

9. I don't know that it would be any better

I'd like to think so but....

and it's not just the Marine LePens. What about the Margaret Thatchers?

I believe that power just isn't something most humans- male or female- handle very well.

[Atman]

13. My thought exactly

The personality traits which lead one in the quest for power and world leadership don't have much to do with the glands.

[Bohunk68]

10. Margaret Thatcher,

Mary, Queen of Scots. Yeah, that'll do it.

[trumad]

17. Fior every female example, I'll give you 10 men.

[sufrommich]

27. That's because for every female politician,

there are ten male politicians. It doesn't mean females have some magic source of goodness.Females are as nuanced in their political leanings as men are,we also have saints,sinners and everyone in between.We aren't the Borg

[trumad]

30. "That's because for every female politician, there are ten male politicians".

and why is that?

[sufrommich]

33. Because we allow all sorts of people to vote? nt

[joeglow3]

44. I can't follow your reasoning

You advocate for all leaders to be women. Then, when called on your bullshit, you switch it to, why don't we have more women politicians.

Let me clear this up for you: Your initial post was extremely ignorant. Your fall back position is a perfectly valid point (it simply is not the same as saying all leaders should be one gender).

[trumad]

46. No fall back---sorry if there is confusion.

Let's just make it clear---

Rule the fucking world.

If you think that is ignorant....tough shit.

[joeglow3]

48. At least you are comfortable in your gender stereotypes

I am glad in your mind you can justify it. Sadly, so can so many sexists I know.

[FarCenter]

85. Currently, Angela Merkel, Julia Gillard, Dilma Rousseff and Cristina Kirchner are leading women

But it is a somewhat mixed lot historically:

Empress Theodora, Catherine the Great, Maria Theresa, Elizbeth I, Indira Ghandi, Evita Peron, etc.

[dynasaw]

18. Of Course There Are Women You DON'T Want to run the World

Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Carly Fiorina, Meg Whitman, Kim Kardashian (who is aspring to be mayor of Glendale as preparatory to being president?) Jan Brewer,
Wendy Murdoch, etc. etc. ad nauseum

[Atman]

21. Bingo.

[trumad]

23. Again---for every lousy female choice, I can give you 10 men who are eqaully lousy.

[Javaman]

47. only because men are in power.

if the reverse was true and women were historically in power, I bet your statement would read the same with men in the minority.

it's not that men per say are the problem, it's power and ego.

there are several right wing women that were mentioned above that proves the point about ego and power.

but on the flip side, there are great people, both men and women, in position of power that do a lot of good.

Sadly, those folks rarely get the props the deserve.

[pipoman]

64. Maybe a more even split would make a better balance of gender specific skills..

[Javaman]

91. I agree. :) nt

[dynasaw]

76. Male-Identified Women

Women who've taken up the negative male model and who aren't much different when it comes to being in power.

Time to develop and adopt models of governance based on the ways of women.

[Javaman]

92. perhaps.

or maybe a less ego oriented method of governing is needed.

women are subject to massive egos just as much as men are.

people are people, regardless of gender.

[polly7]

50. err ......... ok, this is making me rethink my! rec. n/t.

cripes, I can't even spell two letter words today. Good thing I'm not ruling the world.

[TheKentuckian]

35. Women of the predator class are no better than the men and sometime worse

It is my wish that the predator class be removed from power rather than another round of three card monty maintaining the status quo while different faces run the ship aground.

Keep pretending it is the face, gender, race, or religion that needs to change to improve the world and keep getting fucked.

Greedy fucks are greedy fucks regardless of gender, as assholes are assholes.

[Nye Bevan]

40. I'm sure your wife is a wonderful person and would make an excellent President.

But there are many, many women who are not, and would not.

[snooper2]

41. So you are telling us she settled?

LOL

[trumad]

45. snarf.

Have no idea why.

[4th law of robotics]

49. Amazing that women aren't running the world if your premise is correct

100x smarter, more organized, rational, and better in a crises.

And yet women are not in charge of the world.

Seems either your premise is wrong or men have some compensatory abilities that make up for having a relative IQ of 1.

[redqueen]

51. There are many who agree with you.

William Bond, Mariji Gimbutas, Richard Rudgley... well, they don't quite say the same thing. What it seems to me that they're saying is that despite claims to the contrary, women did once rule the world, and that it was a peaceful 'Golden Age' which most academics consider to be just legends in many cultures.

[loyalsister]

90. The power balance has been misrepresented

Physical strength has so often been the determinant of power. However under early tribal conditions females ran the show in terms of keeping a stable environment for humans to succeed and maintaining relationships needed to survive. Males performed more riskier duties.

Females lived longer and provided social stability that laid the ground for our survival and "advancement" (for lack of a better term) as a species with characteristics such as language and advanced cognitive abilities.

[bhikkhu]

52. I don't want a slave or a master

...a partner would be fine. Which goes for personal relations as well as individual-to-government relations.

Gender isn't the issue, behavior is the issue.

[deutsey]

57. Yeah...the worst supervisor I had was a woman

Absoluletly horrible person...she's among the top 5 vile people I've ever met personally.

But, my best supervisor (who is still among my good friends) was also a woman.

In neither situation was it about their gender. It was about the kind of persons they were and how they treated other people.

[FedUpWithIt All]

53. I think it's beautiful that you think so highly of your wife.

Thanks for sharing that with us.

[Ishoutandscream2]

74. Me too. Can you believe the responses here?

DU is really out of touch with the real world, isn't it?

[Bladian]

95. Yes, yes you are.

Nobody is insulting the OP's wife.

[FedUpWithIt All]

97. People like to listen to themselves.

IMHO the difference between the net and RL is that people feel they no longer need to practice simple niceties online.

In real life if a man complimented his wife and boasted of the attributes he believes are shared by her gender, because of his admiration of her, people would, typically, see the warmth behind the sentiment and either share in that happiness or at the very least keep their to themselves.

We definitely lose something important in this medium, again, IMHO.

[seabeyond]

102. i love listening to people say wonderful things about their mates. not so much into

suggesting a fairy tale if women ran everything, life would be ideal. it would be much better if many more women were in key positions thru out our society, but i dont have to promote an imbalance to stand up for women.

it isnt about the wife. i am thrilled trumad loves his wife. good stuff. as it should be and i could only hope all people get to experience a relationship where they respect, love and admire their mate.

[Egalitarian Thug]

54. K&R. I'll vote for that. n/t

[HappyMe]

56. Gender has nothing to do

with what makes a good leader.

[pipoman]

58. Anyone who has worked

in a large department staffed only by women wouldn't likely agree. I think the answer is a more even split of men and women than is currently the norm...both bring essential inherent skills (maybe not the right word) to the scene.

My wife of twenty years is a hundred times smarter than me, more organized, rational, understanding..

That may go more to a very specific dynamic in your particular case..

I have to say, my wife is my equal, at least..

[4th law of robotics]

59. Reminds me of this story

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html

[seabeyond]

60. i would put the blame on the leadership, again, regardless of gender.

quaint. catfight.

[4th law of robotics]

66. I would put it on trying to create a single gender environment

men and women are meant to coexist together.

Attempting to eliminate one gender, even in a temporary setting, is bound to cause people to act differently than they otherwise would.

[seabeyond]

79. nope... leadership. nt

[4th law of robotics]

88. So segregating people by gender has no bearing on their behavior

a group of exclusively men would behave exactly the same if you added a few women to the mix (or vice-versa).

Interesting hypothesis. It does seem contrary to pretty much all empirical evidence though.

[seabeyond]

93. i am saying if there is good leadership and management and implementation of rules

it wont matter if all male, all female or a mix....

the kind of problems in that article, is about leadership. management. not gender

[Rex]

78. Worked in a large department 3 men 41 women

and everything ran great, there were minor issues between workers but overall never had a single problem. Of course, I think if people look for a problem based on their own prejudiced world view - one will appear to them shortly.

[HiPointDem]

80. It's been my experience that women play games even over trivialities -- just like in the sandbox

when two girls would decide to exclude a third just for the hell of it. Not to mention that a lot of women use their sexual power to gain favor, for all they say they don't.

I've never liked working for women or in a woman-dominated office.

[seabeyond]

82. cue surprise.... nt

[HiPointDem]

83. I'm a woman, that's my experience in the working world. If you're surprised, too bloody bad.

I haven't found much solidarity in that environment, by gender or anything else.

[Rex]

63. I would be more then willing to give it a try.

Their record could not be worse then what the men currently hold.

[Jester Messiah]

67. Mmm... blatant sexism. Tasty. [nt]

[Ishoutandscream2]

68. A very good OP

Genuine, sincere. And people come on the tread and shit all over it.

Only at DU.

[4th law of robotics]

70. And quite insulting to ~half the population. /nt

[Ishoutandscream2]

73. Bullshit

Men have been running things forever. Maybe it's time to change course and give women a try. This is not a post wanting to eliminate men from the total equation.

Trumad sounds like a guy who really has an open mind, and he respects women (and, apparently, he has a great wife, as do I. I don't even come close to being the kind of wonderful person my wife is). And I guess because both Trumad and I have these same ideas, we must be sexist against women or hate men. Typical.

Again, only at DU. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[seabeyond]

81. he respects women... bah hahahaha. lol.

sorry trumad. it was funny

[RadiationTherapy]

87. Framing women as anything but human is sexist.

Trying to lay virtue as a blanket over an entire demographic is disingenuous and corollary to sexism/racism.

[4th law of robotics]

98. Assigning ringing praise to an entire gender is sexist

Whether you're making the argument that they are better or worse than the rest of us you are still making them out to be something inhuman.

[Romulox]

69. Women have been the majority of voters for many years... nt

[Zorra]

71. We do run the world.

The problem is, some folks seem to have trouble following instructions.

[Gregorian]

72. Women and musicians. Thatcher, Alice Cooper and Nugent not withstanding.

There will always be exceptions.

[shcrane71]

84. I hope you have children.

Or at least, I hope you mentor kids in some form or sense.

[DutchLiberal]

86. Depends... are we talking Christina Kirchners or Margaret Thatchers?

Men or women... doesn't make a difference. Either you're a good leader or you aren't.

To think that gender has anything to do with qualifications is just.. er.. dumb.

[Whisp]

89. but some women are assholes, like a Sarah Palin

so I would rephrase that just a little bit.

I wish there were a lot more good women running things, and a lot more good men as well.

[MadrasT]

94. The qualities you admire in your wife

have absolutely nothing to do with gender.

Perhaps your wife should run the world, but that isn't because she is a woman.

It's because she's made of awesome.

Her awesomeness is not connected to her gender, and can't be projected onto "women" as a group.

[Drunken Irishman]

96. You wish that and you'd get someone like Sarah Palin...

[LeftishBrit]

100. As a woman, I don't think gender makes that much of a difference

Anyone who WANTS to run the world, male or female, is likely to be a bit suspect.

Not only Marine LePen, but Maggie Thatcher, Ann Widdecombe, Nadine Dorries, Shirley Porter, Sarah Palin, Phyllis Schlafly, Michele Bachmann, Jan Brewer...

But then what about Jean-Marie LePen, Norman Tebbit, George Osborne, Ian Duncan-Smith, Nigel Farage, Nick (ugh) Griffin, Dubya Bush, Dick Cheney, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney...

A slimeball is a slimeball, whatever the gender.

[countryjake]

101. My man (of almost twenty yr) would probably agree...

but whenever we get into the realm of "running the world", we bump into things like ego and agenda, and both sexes, sadly, are equally susceptible to those failings.

I do appreciate your sentiment, but I don't think that anybody is exempt from that old maxim that Power tends to corrupt, without an effective system of checks and balances employed by all people.

However...

[LadyHawkAZ]

105. Much as I appreciate the sentiment

There is brilliance and idiocy in women just as there is in men. I'd much prefer it if we just stop seeing gender in our public lives, and use merit as a basis for our leaders.

[struggle4progress]

106. I don't think women would do a worse job than men, but I don't think they'd necessarily

do a better job either

Most folk I know, of any gender, have strengths and weaknesses: I find both genius and moronic greatness, as well as angelic and demonic tendencies, in almost everybody

And there's no shortage of complete jerks on either side of the gender aisle, either

[flvegan]

107. Trumad, the contents of my vacuum bag are 100 times smarter than you.

That said, I do appreciate your post and you may have a really good point there.

[Quantess]

108. Women are no more complex than men.

The "women are so complex" notion disappears when women are seen as human beings who are not meant to be oppressed.

Just a tidbit of tangential thought.

Women are horribly oppressed all over the world, just for being female. Religion plays a huge part. Ignorance is the biggest offender.

We have a disadvantage with our high pitched voices and our less-muscular bodies, and our less-aggressive hormones. This is why we women are so easily quieted, so easily pushed aside and told to stay in our place.

[seabeyond]

109. The "women are so complex" notion disappears when women are seen as human beings.

yup.... lol

[LeftyMom]

110. This is sexist.

It is every bit as sexist to say "I wish women ruled the world" as it is to say "I wish men ruled the world."

[Quantess]

111. Haha. What planet do you live on?

Men rule the world.

[LeftyMom]

112. Anything less than insistence on equality perpetuates the subjugation of women.

Saying "I wish Australian Aborigines ruled the world" is as racist as saying "I wish the Europeans and their colonial offshoots ruled the world." The fact that the latter is largely true doesn't impact both statements being blatantly racist. Saying "I wish everybody got equal consideration" or something to that effect would be pro-equality, insisting on upending the current order while maintaining imbalanced power is counter-productive because it allows the idea that power should be inequitably distributed to persist.

[Quantess]

113. Okay, I see your argument, and I agree with you.

If only we could reduce reality to a semantics game.

I wish it would be that easy. What is it going to take, with the reality of women having less forceful bodies, less aggressive hormones, and higher-pitched voices, to ever be "equal" in this mortal world of aggression, religion, ignorance, repression?

As long as we are human beings, there will be a struggle, I am afraid.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

114. I wish someone other than people ran the world sometimes. (n/m)

[Quantess]

115. I couldn't agree more.

We humans are doing a terrible job of keeping house, of being stewards of the earth. Fire ants could do a better job. Cockroaches. There are creatures who will evolve and take over when we have burned out the torch of HomoSapiens.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

117. Ants and cockroaches.....

Nah......I think we know who will end up taking over....



Bastards are just biding time now.

[lonestarnot]

116. Why should we do that? We wouldn't get paid but for 77 cents on the dollar, unlike men.

[BlueIris]

118. It'll happen eventually.

And sooner than most want to admit.