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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:13 PM Feb 2015

Columba Bush's $42,000 shopping spree could damage husband Jeb's nomination hopes

Columba Bush's $42,000 shopping spree could damage husband Jeb's nomination hopes



Jeb Bush’s planned campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has suffered a setback with revelations that his wife Columba spent $42,311 (£27,369) in a single day on jewellery including a Bulgari diamond bracelet.

Mrs Bush, 61, is reported to have taken out a loan of $42,311 from a Florida jeweller in order to buy the bracelet and other items.

Details of the purchases, reported first by the Washington Post, have put a new spotlight on Mrs Bush, who during her husband’s two terms as governor of Florida between 1999 and 2007 kept a notably low profile and is known to have had reservations about his running for president.

Records filed by Mayors Jewellers of Miami showed that Mrs Bush, a Mexican national who met her husband in 1971 when he was an exchange student, took out $90,000 in loans over a 15-year period. Most recently, she bought a $11,700 Rolex watch and a $9,500 pair of earrings. Mr Bush tweeted a wedding photograph today to mark the couple’s 41st wedding anniversary.

Her aversion to publicity was in part born of another episode when she failed to declare $19,000 in purchases made during a shopping spree in Paris in 1999. She was mortified at the political damage to her husband but also felt unfairly treated by the press.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/columba-bushs-42000-shopping-spree-could-damage-husband-jebs-nomination-hopes-10065933.html

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Columba Bush's $42,000 shopping spree could damage husband Jeb's nomination hopes (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 OP
I was all set to dimiss the Paris shopping spree as ancient history rocktivity Feb 2015 #1
Favors madokie Feb 2015 #2
Hard for me to believe jebbie doesn't have the money to pay for her jewelry. why would ND-Dem Feb 2015 #3
Either Jeb has a sub-zero credit rating rocktivity Feb 2015 #8
What does she use as collateral? malaise Feb 2015 #17
Wasn't it Newt Gingrich who had a "line of credit" at some high priced store? csziggy Feb 2015 #25
If Newt or Calista set up the credit lines up with their own funds, that's fine. rocktivity Feb 2015 #28
Makes me think of Imelda... undeterred Feb 2015 #4
"Never had a conscience or any moral views, Even any kind of taste, just 2000 shoes" FSogol Feb 2015 #5
Doesn't come as much of a surprise, tho prolly helps Jebbie's status among Wall Street fat cats. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #6
More rocktivity Feb 2015 #7
She's probably addicted to spending and status, like Kris Jenner. Initech Feb 2015 #29
"she bought a $11,700 Rolex watch", yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2015 #9
is mitt really ironing his wrists there? what's the story on that? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #12
Steaming out a wrinkle on the cuff, most likely JHB Feb 2015 #15
When Netflix released the trailer for its upcoming "MITT" documentary, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2015 #23
Who really needs a Rolex? panader0 Feb 2015 #13
Rolexes are wrist-mounted pissing contests. JHB Feb 2015 #16
I have a Rolex titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #18
But the RW keeps telling me.... Takket Feb 2015 #10
The whole Bush clan got their brains olddots Feb 2015 #11
This is a collateral issue. no_hypocrisy Feb 2015 #14
Mrs. Bush's purchases would have NO resonance if they were paid for directly out funds rocktivity Feb 2015 #22
As long as she didn't use public money, HappyMe Feb 2015 #19
When you're the spouse of a public SERVANT, fiscal responsibility matters. rocktivity Feb 2015 #20
The state of their marriage is nobody's damn business. HappyMe Feb 2015 #31
I agree. Mojorabbit Feb 2015 #30
Queen Ann?...Meet COUNTESS COLUMBA. Rhinodawg Feb 2015 #21
Wear do yo ueven wear such stuff? My life has gotten to the point where it would be hedgehog Feb 2015 #24
It Does Not Matter How Gross The Spending It. THEY ARE ENTITLED Because They Are Bush Dynasty. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2015 #26
$19,000 Paris shopping spree and she didn't declare it to US Customs!?!? WTF! KeepItReal Feb 2015 #27

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. I was all set to dimiss the Paris shopping spree as ancient history
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:24 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:10 PM - Edit history (2)

She takes out loans in order to buy jewlery? And we're supposed to see her husband as someone who can teach an entire nation how to live within its means?

What does she use as collateral? Does she have her own income? How does she pay the loans back? Irony altert: Wikipedia defines her occupation as "philanthropist!"


rocktivity

 

ND-Dem

(4,571 posts)
3. Hard for me to believe jebbie doesn't have the money to pay for her jewelry. why would
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:30 PM
Feb 2015

she have to take out a loan?

$90K over 15 years = $7500 a year. Not so much for a Bush, I wouldn't think.

Maybe she's so compulsive he refuses to pay anymore.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
8. Either Jeb has a sub-zero credit rating
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:08 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:07 AM - Edit history (1)

or a shopaholic wife he can't trust with an account of her own. Or maybe she's doing some kind of black ops money laundering or smuggling with those jewels -- they DO live in Miami, after all!


rocktivity

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
25. Wasn't it Newt Gingrich who had a "line of credit" at some high priced store?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:35 PM
Feb 2015

Tiffany's or something similar? My dim memory is that he used it to buy jewelry for his second or third wife.

Ah, yes - here is something about that:

Newt Gingrich had second line of credit at Tiffany and Co.
Posted by Chris Cillizza at 07:18 PM ET, 06/21/2011

Former House speaker Newt Gingrich had a second line of credit at the high-end jewelry store Tiffany and Co. for as much as $1 million dollars, his presidential campaign acknowledged Tuesday.

Joe DeSantis, a spokesman for Gingrich, said that the candidate’s personal financial disclosure filing, which is due within 30 days of his formal entrance into the presidential race, will “show that the Gingriches had a $500,000 to $1 million line of credit at Tiffany’s, that it has a zero balance, and it has been closed.”

DeSantis added that all debts to Tiffany had been paid in full. He offered no details about when the second line of credit was taken out, what it was used for or when it was closed.

This revelation comes roughly a month after personal financial disclosure forms for Gingrich’s wife, Callista, showed that the family had carried a line of credit ranging between $250,000 and $500,000 at Tiffany’s during 2005 and 2006.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/newt-gingrich-had-second-line-of-credit-at-tiffanys/2011/06/21/AGP4U0eH_blog.html


I love the caption under the picture - "Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign has stumbled badly out of the starting gate." Déjà vu!

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
28. If Newt or Calista set up the credit lines up with their own funds, that's fine.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:16 PM
Feb 2015

It's exactly what Jeb should have done for Columba -- why didn't he? Taking about a loan that he was going to pay back anyhow is such an unnecessary step, you have to wonder if there isn't something else going on.


rocktivity

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
5. "Never had a conscience or any moral views, Even any kind of taste, just 2000 shoes"
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:47 PM
Feb 2015

"If I had the world to sell, could strike a deal with you
I know you haven't got the cash, just 2000 shoes" - Mick Jones from Big Audio Dynamite

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
7. More
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:53 PM
Feb 2015
Washington Post: ...Jeb Bush said the first lady had misled customs officials because she did not want him to know that she had spent about $19,000 on the trip. “The embarrassment I felt made me ashamed to face my family and friends,” Columba Bush said in a July 1999 speech to the Central Florida Make-a-Wish Foundation, not long after the incident. “It was the worst feeling I’ve ever had in my life.”

...However...(l)ess than a year later, she took out (the) loan to buy $42,311.70 worth of jewelry on a single day...Documentation available online, which does not include the details of two transactions made less than six weeks apart in 1995, shows that she spent a total of more than $90,000 at the store...

“Mrs. Bush bought jewelry from time to time from Mayors Jewelers over the years. Though not required to be reported, these purchases in 2000 were included as accounts payable on Governor Bush’s financial disclosure that year, and paid off the next,” (a) Bush spokeswoman...said by e-mail, (adding) that the governor was “aware she made purchases from time to time.” That kind of spending, though well within his means, may present a challenge for Jeb Bush as he prepares for a presidential run...

If the purchases are "well within" Jeb's means, then why does she need to take out loans? Does Mrs. Jeb have a shopping addiction problem, or is she fronting some kind of black ops money laundering operation?


rocktivity

JHB

(37,158 posts)
15. Steaming out a wrinkle on the cuff, most likely
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:52 AM
Feb 2015

He used an iron because the other source of steaming material Romney had in ready supply would color-clash with the blue and white.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
23. When Netflix released the trailer for its upcoming "MITT" documentary,
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:13 PM
Feb 2015

there was a curious behind-the-scenes moment we noticed. Here is Mitt Romney, using an iron, and doing it all wrong.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. Who really needs a Rolex?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:12 AM
Feb 2015

My cheap flip phone tells me the time. If I had one I'd sell it to get my teeth fixed.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
18. I have a Rolex
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:57 AM
Feb 2015

Has nothing to do with a pissing contest. I love watches. I always wanted one particular Rolex and finally saved up enough money to buy it a few years ago. I wear that and other times I wear about a $100 Seiko I've had for ten years. Now I'll admit it was nowhere near what Mrs Bush spent on hers. That is nuts and I would have never done that.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
14. This is a collateral issue.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:46 AM
Feb 2015

There were so many more relevant issues in the past than Jackie Kennedy's Paris shopping trips and Nancy Reagan's White House china.

Mrs. Bush's purchases would have more resonance if public funds were used like the governor's wife in Virginia.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
22. Mrs. Bush's purchases would have NO resonance if they were paid for directly out funds
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:53 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:27 PM - Edit history (1)

that her husband clearly has -- AND if she didn't live in the money-laundering capital of the world. I think it would be remiss of us NOT to wonder why.


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
20. When you're the spouse of a public SERVANT, fiscal responsibility matters.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:42 PM
Feb 2015

Jeb obviously feels compelled to keep her on a very short financial leash. Aside from it not speaking very well of the state of their marriage, I don't want a first lady who could spend herself into something her husband can't afford to buy his way out of -- with or without private funds.


rocktivity

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
31. The state of their marriage is nobody's damn business.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:44 PM
Feb 2015

The first lady doesn't sign or veto bills and isn't running the country.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
30. I agree.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:37 PM
Feb 2015

I could care less what his wife does. It is his policies that are going to affect me if he wins and that is what I am interested in. If she loves jewelry and he can afford it...whatever. I hate it when spouses and children of candidates are subjected to this type of scrutiny. She lied a long time ago in customs. I remember when that happened but I have not heard of any incidents since. If there have been further incidents I will reassess my opinion.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
24. Wear do yo ueven wear such stuff? My life has gotten to the point where it would be
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:23 PM
Feb 2015

pompous to wear a dress to church instead of pants! I wear a skirt at weddings and alumni receptions.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
26. It Does Not Matter How Gross The Spending It. THEY ARE ENTITLED Because They Are Bush Dynasty.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:39 PM
Feb 2015

It is like the divine right of kings. The GOPPERS see wealth and extravagance as their right even with people starving beneath them. And Bush will survive this situation.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
27. $19,000 Paris shopping spree and she didn't declare it to US Customs!?!? WTF!
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:52 PM
Feb 2015

How do you not end up arrested or in trouble with the IRS?

And she was mad about press coverage?? FOH

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