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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:40 AM Apr 2012

If GWB had killed Osama, Saved GM & helped the downfall of a tyrant without the loss of US troops

You know, I'd be just fine with all of that.

For once, I would say that he would have been doing his freaking job for a change.

But he didn't and we never got the chance to congratulate him for a job well done… Mostly because he was the biggest fuck-up ever to inhabit the Oval Office since the days of Herbert Hoover. A lack of opportunity, I say.

But we have a current president whose positives far outweigh his negatives by any stretch of the imagination… And yet, for some, that's not good enough. So, why waste opportunities that are put in front of you?

That goes for everyone, lefties and righties alike.

There are those on one side who want to replace him with someone who is ready to install policies that are nothing more than the Bush years on anabolic steroids and on the other, people who are still wishing that Obama comes to the rescue of their own special concerns like The Lone Ranger and Tonto put together with their necks in nooses.

Yes, yes, yes.. I understand that it's our God-given right to bitch and groan about all things presidential day in and day out. What good will it help your cause, if he's supposed to be the only guy you have and you have to try to take him down?

Have fun with that.

Whatever your problems with the guy, he sure is better than the alternative.

I just want to point out one other thing, whenever we have problems with what ever any president does, please consider that those things are done in the name of a nation. Bad things are done because we, as a people, allow them to happen. Now different people tend to view those actions with either derision or approval, based on their own politically tinge point of view. Whether on the right or on the left, this is what America has become, like it or not. We all are the good and bad things that we do as a nation.

Deal with that, please.

You want it to change? I'm not going to tell you what to do, because you're probably doing it right now. What you really need is to get is more people like yourself to make a difference to join with you… It's a numbers game, you gotta have more than the other guy.

It's not about what you're against, it's what you're for.

Everyone should always remember that, even when you're sitting alone and registering your approval or disapproval at any given moment.

This message is for everybody, wherever and whomever you are.




(P.S., Don't forget Congress, silly)

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If GWB had killed Osama, Saved GM & helped the downfall of a tyrant without the loss of US troops (Original Post) MrScorpio Apr 2012 OP
I'd grab the imposter and say rock Apr 2012 #1
I wouldn't care about the impostor's true identity Cirque du So-What Apr 2012 #2
He was the boss of The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight, for sure MrScorpio Apr 2012 #4
Republicans seem to think Bush is a national embarrassment, too aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2012 #3
Not true Johonny May 2012 #22
My image of * was a calvary officer collecting scalps. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #5
If GWB would have killed Bin Laden Hawaii Hiker Apr 2012 #6
If GWB had done that, I'd say: Bradford Apr 2012 #7
IMO Mr Dixon Apr 2012 #8
"Whatever your problems with the guy, he sure is better than the alternative." 99Forever Apr 2012 #9
The slogan is "Forward". I'm sure you know that. emulatorloo Apr 2012 #10
What's your point? 99Forever May 2012 #12
You are the one who made the silly bumper sticker comment emulatorloo May 2012 #13
Is there some portion of .. 99Forever May 2012 #15
"Is that this election cycle's replacement for "Hope and Change"? Can I get that on a bumpersticker emulatorloo May 2012 #17
I'm not quite getting your point MrScorpio May 2012 #16
Then .. 99Forever May 2012 #18
Considering your retort... MrScorpio May 2012 #19
Why would I... 99Forever May 2012 #23
But what are you're interests? MrScorpio May 2012 #24
If George Bush had done that, mythology Apr 2012 #11
If he had, he'd be president for life..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2012 #14
If all that had been done by Bush II. bluestate10 May 2012 #20
don't worry Bush congratulate himself for a job well done Johonny May 2012 #21

Cirque du So-What

(25,933 posts)
2. I wouldn't care about the impostor's true identity
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:50 AM
Apr 2012

just as long as WhistleAss was no longer the deciderer.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
4. He was the boss of The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight, for sure
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:51 AM
Apr 2012

Beforehand, if some had told me about how bad that he could actually be, I would have told them that they were full if it.

But I guess that when you're determined to be nothing other than really, really bad while you're in the Oval Office, all nightmares are possible.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
3. Republicans seem to think Bush is a national embarrassment, too
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:50 AM
Apr 2012

His name was never uttered at the last GOP convention. And I don't see a clamor on the part of the Republican establishment to put 'he who cannot e named' in any kind of position of prominence, to ask for his advice, or to solicit his endorsement. It will be interesting to see if he appears at the forthcoming GOP convention. If he goes unmentioned again, that could make for an interesting political ad by Dems that asks the people why they think Bush is being avoided like the plague although Romney nonetheless wants to continue the same policies.

Johonny

(20,841 posts)
22. Not true
Wed May 2, 2012, 06:18 PM
May 2012

Many republicans running the Romney campaign love Bush and think he was another Truman. A man history will redeem but the people of his day didn't get. They avoid Bush because they know he isn't popular with the public, not because he isn't popular among themselves.

no_hypocrisy

(46,088 posts)
5. My image of * was a calvary officer collecting scalps.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:01 AM
Apr 2012

First Saddam Hussein, then OBL. He would've added Assad and Ahmadinejad if he had more time.

Hawaii Hiker

(3,165 posts)
6. If GWB would have killed Bin Laden
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:09 AM
Apr 2012

the repubs would have not only boasted about it on a daily basis, they would demand that Bush's likeness be added to Mt. Rushmore...On top of that, they would make a female, Hispanic, and an African American do the construction while a white NRA member supervised the work...

 

Bradford

(7 posts)
7. If GWB had done that, I'd say:
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:27 AM
Apr 2012

1) Looks like your Guantanamo-style torture tactics on those prisoners overseas was a success, Mr. President. The CIA would never have extracted the info needed to find Bin Laden, were it not for the waterboarding done to those terrorist suspects abroad. Also, I laud your consistency in support of both the tactics used and of Guantanamo itself. It would have been quite ludicrous, had you pledged to shut down Guantanamo (and failed), yet supported the use of those same torture tactics elsewhere in the world, now, wouldn't it?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13509639#.T56Rcu2f0sE

2) Excellent work on saving GM. The American now know that if they run a large business and support the same irresponsible business model long enough, they will simply be bailed out; the tax payers will be left with the tab, something to the tune of 40 billion that they will never see again. Excellent work. A lesson learned.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
9. "Whatever your problems with the guy, he sure is better than the alternative."
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:43 AM
Apr 2012

Is that this election cycle's replacement for "Hope and Change"?




Can I get that on a bumpersticker?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. What's your point?
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:11 AM
May 2012

If you have a problem with my response title, I suggest you take it up with the person I quoted, the OP. Okay?

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
13. You are the one who made the silly bumper sticker comment
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:47 PM
May 2012

There are plenty of positive things Obama and Dems have gotten done in spite of the Republicans. Obama and Dems are going to run on those things.

In addition Obama and Democrats have policy positions that are positive and are in stark contrast to what the Republicans offer. They are going to run on those things as well.

Whether you like it or not.

I know it is popular at DU to claim there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans, and to pretend there are no positive reasons to vote Democratic. But the facts don't support that claim.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
15. Is there some portion of ..
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:32 PM
May 2012
"If you have a problem with my response title, I suggest you take it up with the person I quoted, the OP." you are having trouble understanding?

If I am going to argue, I make it a policy to only defend things I actually say, not a load of horsedung someone else makes up and tries to attribute to me. How about you?

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
17. "Is that this election cycle's replacement for "Hope and Change"? Can I get that on a bumpersticker
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

You actually said that. That is what I responded to. Rational people reading the subthread understand that, despite your attempts at obfuscation.

There are plenty of positive things Obama and Dems have gotten done in spite of the Republicans. Obama and Dems are going to run on those things.

I know it is popular among a loud handfull of DU'ers to pretend there are no positive reasons to vote Democratic. But the facts don't support that claim.

Done responding to you. Because you will just come up with another rhetorical trick.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
18. Then ..
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

... I would suggest that you consult someone that doesn't place personalities ahead of actual policies and actions and see if they can explain "my point." Thanks for asking.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
19. Considering your retort...
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:46 PM
May 2012

Are you thereby suggesting that we should have an alternative to the President and, if so, whom?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
23. Why would I...
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:07 PM
May 2012

.. want to actually have a choice of someone that would work for my interests? Surely you jest!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
24. But what are you're interests?
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:56 PM
May 2012

And who, rather than the President, do you think would work for them in his place?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
11. If George Bush had done that,
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:20 PM
Apr 2012

we'd still be sprinkling rocksalt on the ground in all the places hell just froze over.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. If he had, he'd be president for life.....
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:55 PM
May 2012

...but because a Democrat, and a black guy on top of it, did it........it's not worth discussion.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
20. If all that had been done by Bush II.
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:49 PM
May 2012

Rightwing nuts would be rioting in streets demanding that Bush II's likeness get jackhammered onto Mt. Rushmore.

Johonny

(20,841 posts)
21. don't worry Bush congratulate himself for a job well done
Wed May 2, 2012, 06:16 PM
May 2012

over and over. Even when the job was done. As pointed out many times Bush and his toadies never short of self praise and never short on scorn for Obama for any amount of self praise.

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