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INCREDIBLY DESPERATE Romney general election campaign event tomorrow with Rudy Giuliani
May 1st is the anniversary of President Obama's gutsy call, against the advice of the CIA and Defense Secretary Gates, to greenlight a raid deep inside Pakistan that successfully delivered justice to Osama bin Laden.
Instead of remaining silent about Obama's victory lap for that long-sought triumph, Mitt Romney is going to Manhattan to try to COMPETE with the celebration of bin Laden's and Al-Quaeda's defeat.
IMO this is the first HUGE mistake of Romney's general election campaign. It will make Romney seem small and petty compared to a Democratic President who did in three years what his Republican predecessor could not do in eight. It will remind voters of what both Romney and Dubya often said--that it would be unwise to 'move heaven and earth' to try to defeat one man.
And it will revive the discussion of just why there was a gigantic void in Presidential leadership most of the day on 9/11/01 for Rudy Giulani to fill opportunistically.
Dubya was scurrying in terror from hidey-hole to hidey-hole. The World Trade Center attacks started at 8:46am, but no comment came from the White House until late afternoon. And national executive leadership from the Republicans was so chaotic that the first WH comment came not from the President, not from the VP, not from Condi Rice, but from obscure Counselor to the President Karen Hughes (See http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/09/09/karen-hughes-remembers-11-terror-attacks/ ).
WHAT's YOUR OPINION?
From http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/04/romneygiuliani-now-whos-politi.php
"Romney/Giuliani: Now Who's Politicizing 9/11?
By Michael Hirsh April 30, 2012 | 3:53 PM
President Obama's been taking a lot of flack ... for his campaign's new Osama bin Laden anniversary ad, which offers up a Bill Clinton-narrated account of Obama's lonely decision to order SEAL Team 6 in a year ago, and then raises questions about whether Mitt Romney would have done the same. A statement from two Romney advisors said they were 'saddened' to see 'the president of the United States politicize that event.' ...
So it seems fair to point out that when it comes to politicizing 9/11 it's hard to beat Rudy Giuliani, who will be at Romney's side on the one-year anniversary of bin Laden's death. Giuliani and the presumptive GOP nominee plan to appear at a plainly political event Tuesday complete with New York firefighters as props. ... Romney also dismissively said today that 'of course' he would have ordered bin Laden's killing and then, with his usual ear for resonant rhetoric, volunteered that 'even Jimmy Carter' would have done so. But it also seems fair to point out that back in 2008 ... Romney criticized Obama's aggressive statements about pursuing al Qaeda into Pakistan, which the president himself alluded to today in remarks at a photo op. And that's where bin Laden was found: in Pakistan.
'I just recommend that everybody take a look at people's previous statements,' Obama said...."
panader0
(25,816 posts)I agree that it is a huge mistake for the Rmoney campaign, but what's new?
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)About 20 minutes in, EJ Dionne of the Washington Post points out the brilliance of the Obama campaign's choice of Bill Clinton to question Romney's foreign policy judgment in a new "OBL is Dead" ad. For Dionne, the ad says, "Here's our surrogate--who's yours?" John McCain? Dubya? Dick Cheney?
C_U_L8R
(45,002 posts)except hide in a basement???
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)several public statements that day.
That beat the White House's public response time by almost five hours.
See http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=rudolph_(_rudy_)_giuliani
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)from the corner of Chambers and Broadway.
I believe it was slightly less eloquent than Giuliani's statement of several hours later, at a rough "Holy fucking shit!"
Of course, I'm a New Yorker from the Outer Boros, so I remember when Rudy has his surrogates out urging the white ethnics in Queens to "Fuck the Mooley, vote for Giuli" re: David Dinkins. A real class act, America's Mayor...
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)David Dinkins? "The washroom attendant".
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Hunching his shoulders and walking around New York like he meant business and waving at people beyond camera range, some of whom weren't even there. It was like the Blair Witch Project with simulated reality.
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)"that evening" but rather in "late agternoon", namely, at 3:55pm.
See http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=karen_hughes :
"3:55 p.m. September 11, 2001: President Bush Said to Be at Undisclosed Location
White House adviser Karen Hughes briefly speaks to the media and says President Bush is at an undisclosed location, taking part in a video conference. This is possibly the only in-person media appearance by any Bush administration official since the attacks and until a news conference by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld at 6:40 p.m. (CNN, 9/12/2001, at http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/chronology.attack/ ).
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)was devoted to the upcoming Romney-Giulani attempted hijacking of President Obama's victory against bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
O'Donnell's panel was incredulous.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)to covering Romney-Giulani, O'Donnell had segments on
--the absence of any Republican surrogate for Romney that might come close to Bill Clinton's bad cop for good copBarack Obama;
--nailing Paul Ryan trying to deny his lifelong devotion ro and proselytizing for Ayn Rand's atheistic worship of greed;
--Lily Ledbetter's explanation of how the USSC changed the law on her;
and a couple of other hard-hitting topics.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)The fact is, most americans despise Rudy now.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)AnotherDreamWeaver
(2,850 posts)That would be interesting...
Jimdish25
(130 posts)If this starts to reek of the staged Bush photo-ops with Firefighters and Troops it's just going to remind people of the shallow opportunism and incompetence of the bad ole days. No one politicized war and tragedy like Rove and Bush.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Cafone (pronounced, correctly, as ka-phone-ay). Plural:cafoni. That's what Giuliani and Romney are: a couple of cafoni.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)I bet we could come up with a dozen of these disengenuous photo-ops of Willard with some GOTB "icon". Be it Trump or Rudeee or Nooot or Poppy bush...you can see the lack of any chemistry between Willard and the others. It's all for political cover...as Mittens continues to try to sell his own corrupt and inept party on supporting him more than trying to convert others to his "cause".
Desperation? You betcha!
ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)ecstatic
(32,701 posts)Is that what the heckler was yelling?
ecstatic
(32,701 posts)I think we should stick with the flip flop meme and lose the severe conservative thing. The truth is, Romney is a severe flake!