Lots of Fucked Up Places of Employment out There

[Dirty Socialist]

I have worked at a few fucked up companies where Machiavelianism rules, and the pay is shitty. Look around. Many people are working their asses off for little pay and inadequate benefits. Do you have any examples?

[MrMickeysMom]

1. WHy, YES! As a matter of fact...

I do!

Can we be specific about our fucked-up-idness, first?

Which category?

1) Restaurants

2) Health Care

[Dirty Socialist]

2. Could be anywhere

I work in the chemical industry, but I have also worked in manufacturing. I have seen restaurants and health care places in action, and They ain't pretty.

[MrMickeysMom]

4. Well, then… I'll give you the skinny on health care...

… since I've been in it over 40 years and various governmental changes of Medicare.

The non-profit hospitals in this star (PA) don't have to go far to prove they are such, and AS such, they don't pay property taxes, they suck up local services, they purposely hire without benefits, and they monopolize services so they can wipe the other systems out.

All the while, they have about 30 people at the top who make over a million a year, CEO makes 6.8 million. I have seen human resources separated from the parent company so that the parent company (millionaire row) can say they HAVE no employees. Meanwhile, a lot of learned health care workers (medical aides, technologists, even physician groups and their extenders) receive very little for their operations.

You know the movie, Shawshank Redemption? Remember the warden's little enterprises that allowed him to play that game where his prisoners undercut all the local business with low bids and prison labor? The model isn't really too far from that.

Due process for harassment in the work place is another story I'll save for later...

[Dirty Socialist]

6. Here in Dayton, OH

Hospitals have a shortage of nurses, yet they are cutting back their hours. Service will suffer accordingly.

[JI7]

3. CVS

[fizzgig]

5. me

i work in a call center and recently got my first raise in two years.

seven years with the company and my pay is shit.

[newthinking]

7. And it is going to get worse. Computers are making full employment impossible.

In the past it was the ebb and flow of labor pools that kept things in check. Many labor advances come during times of labor shortages.

But we are in a very different world now, where increased productivity and automation leads to fewer and fewer workers per product.

This was predicted 40 years ago, but people at the time envisioned it would liberate society with free time. Not quite how it is working out.

[Sherman A1]

8. I think that citing examples would be easy

particularly in our post Great Recession world. It was a time of doing more and more with less and less. This was not a time that was to the benefit of many workers. Piling that on the world since 1980 just made life very difficult for very many.

It is no wonder we see so very many angry people out and about.

[quaker bill]

9. "we can't afford it"

It is a mantra. As in "we can't afford" wages and benefits. Or "we can't afford" decent public schools. Or "we can't afford" to repair infrastructure.

The only thing we consistently "can afford" is making the 1% very rich and doing so as fast as possible.

How we get rid of conservatism and its "Lean" and "six sigma" is not known to me, but as long as these things stand, the race to the bottom will continue.

[Doctor_J]

10. All the money that used to go to workers and support a middle class now is sucked up by the owners

The local small private university has faculty and staff both in the bottom 5% nationally pay-wise, while the athletic department and administration do just fine. The quality of education imparted on the students is not evened measured - only head count and revenue. A 3-hr course which pays the instructor $2000 and for which the school charges $1800 per student, will be cancelled unless 8 students can be enrolled, since with fewer than 8 it "doesn't make enough money". Most of the schools now are competing not with each other but with U of Phoenix and other such places.

Healthcare is even worse than education, what with the ACA guaranteeing tens of billions in overhead to the corporations every year, and killing us with medicine costs and other non-essentials that the lobbyists talked our "Democratic" congress and WH into in 2010. My primary care physician actually told me last year that he gets more money if I go to an inferior in-corporation specialist than a better doctor whose paychecks are signed by someone else. As employees of a small business, my colleagues and I were the ones chosen to bear the burden of Heritage Care, with my premiums, co-pays, co-insurance, and deductibles rising to over 20% of my take-home pay in 2014 (from $500 annual max to $8350).

The corruption and incentives for corruption are part of every change that is implemented now.