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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:25 PM Apr 2012

Mitt: "Even Jimmy Carter" would have ordered the Osama raid.

Mitt Romney informs us that the raid that took out Osama bin Laden one year ago was no big deal, because "even Jimmy Carter would have given that order."

But let's remember:

1) Jimmy Carter is a graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy who spent ten years in the uniformed service of his country. As far as I can tell, this is ten years more than the cumulative service of members of the Romney clan.

2) Jimmy Carter did indeed make a gutsy go/no-go call. It turned out to be a tactical, strategic, and political disaster.

3) Precisely because of the consequences of Carter's failure, Obama was the more daring in making his go/no-go decision. That's the case I argued last year, and nothing I've learned since then changes my view. As a college student, Obama had seen a marginally popular Democratic president come to ruin because he approved a helicopter-based secret mission into hostile Middle Eastern terrain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/04/even-jimmy-carter/256558/

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Mitt: "Even Jimmy Carter" would have ordered the Osama raid. (Original Post) pampango Apr 2012 OP
fuck off Mitt Skittles Apr 2012 #1
what an ass Mitt is! JitterbugPerfume Apr 2012 #2
Easy for an arm chair warrior who's armed with hindsight to say. GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #3
Mitt just cannot stop stepping in piles of shit... madinmaryland Apr 2012 #4
stepping in them? He is making them! He doesn't need an etch-a-sketch, Evergreen Emerald Apr 2012 #11
Memo to Jimmy Carter: This is the gratitude you get for crossing party lines. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #5
Did you read the part where he says DocMac Apr 2012 #16
chickenhawks shouldn't talk about those who served, asshole spanone Apr 2012 #6
Jimmy Carter was President - that is something that Romney can't say about himself. liberal N proud Apr 2012 #7
Revenge remark Turbineguy Apr 2012 #8
What a pissant is Mittens nt UTUSN Apr 2012 #9
Question is: RobertEarl Apr 2012 #10
OBL was there for years and * did nothing BeyondGeography Apr 2012 #12
Next week Willard will vehemently deny saying any such thing! rustydog Apr 2012 #13
STFU Mitt and go to hell while you're at it! nt Raine Apr 2012 #14
Mitt, whats with this politics of envy??? C_U_L8R Apr 2012 #15
imagine the outrage if Obama had said the same of bu$h* spanone Apr 2012 #17
those kids eyeofnewt Apr 2012 #18
Presidents always take risks. It's part of the job description Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #19
And funny how Obama gets not credit, just the Navy Seals treestar Apr 2012 #21
Another idiotic thing from him treestar Apr 2012 #20
GW Bush: ""I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. ... frazzled Apr 2012 #22

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
1. fuck off Mitt
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:27 PM
Apr 2012

you and all of your spawn could not be bothered to serve your country but now you want to give military advice? FUCK OFF

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
3. Easy for an arm chair warrior who's armed with hindsight to say.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:31 PM
Apr 2012

The more this asswipe opens his yap, the more I detest him.

DocMac

(1,628 posts)
16. Did you read the part where he says
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:54 PM
Apr 2012

that he doesn't think anybody will beat Obama?

I read the religious part. Maybe he thinks that Mitt is the easiest opponent.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
6. chickenhawks shouldn't talk about those who served, asshole
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:32 PM
Apr 2012

President Carter has more integrity in his little toenail than mr romney

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
7. Jimmy Carter was President - that is something that Romney can't say about himself.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
Apr 2012

Hopefully it will always be that way.

I would take Carter any day over the shit Romney is selling.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
10. Question is:
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:41 PM
Apr 2012

Would Mitt have ordered the Osama raid?

Obviously not. "No big deal". Just like his friend and mentor, GWB, Mitt would not have made the call to kill America's #1 enemy.

eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
18. those kids
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:10 PM
Apr 2012

of Mitt's are serving their country, campaigning for daddy.


Oh, and I'm sure they're cuter than Amy Carter (isn't this deemed important to the rethugs?)

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
19. Presidents always take risks. It's part of the job description
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:44 PM
Apr 2012

And NO president would refuse an action if it would serve his country obviously.

Carter actually did that and failed. It goes with the territory. Some actions win, some fail.

It's despicable for Rmoney to specifically mention the ONE FAILURE of Carter to score a cheap political point.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
21. And funny how Obama gets not credit, just the Navy Seals
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
Apr 2012

Yet right wingers then aren't consistent - if they were, then the failure of the mission under Carter would be the failure of the marines or whoever was carrying it out.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
22. GW Bush: ""I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. ...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

"It's not that important. It's not our priority." 3/13/02

M. Romney: "It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person." 2007

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