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Q: You don't buy the party unity argument? (Original Post) Fumesucker Mar 2015 OP
Not... One... Whit... WillyT Mar 2015 #1
That was just weird Kalidurga Mar 2015 #2
Unprecedented in history.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #3
Well it's one of the weirdest things I have ever seen a Democrat say Kalidurga Mar 2015 #4
It was very weird. bigwillq Mar 2015 #5
Yeah, Kalidurga Mar 2015 #7
No. I don't watch Star Trek. (nt) bigwillq Mar 2015 #9
Oh well Kalidurga Mar 2015 #10
Wasn't it "If everything I say is a lie, what does it mean if I say "I'm lying?"" arcane1 Mar 2015 #15
It was a long time ago Kalidurga Mar 2015 #21
Sounds like we're both right: arcane1 Mar 2015 #23
And that is exactly how I feel Kalidurga Mar 2015 #27
"Norman - coordinate!" Maedhros Mar 2015 #11
Yipes, that's a tight little outfit... Agschmid Mar 2015 #26
That's obviously taken out of context MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #6
Why not wait until we have the primaries before we declare them over? Vincardog Mar 2015 #19
I have some small difficulty keeping my twisted and untwisted goals straight.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #25
What is the context here? And what's the "party unity argument"? For, or against, or..? arcane1 Mar 2015 #8
The context makes it fairly clear this is during the 2008 primaries and she's talking about Obama Fumesucker Mar 2015 #12
At least she didn't call him a "slum lord" (in that particular clip anyway) nt Bonobo Mar 2015 #13
She must feel for some reason that people of color will not remember that primary Dragonfli Mar 2015 #22
Most of America seems to have forgotten the Iraq war already.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #24
Like certain Hillary supporters said in 2008, Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #14
I've had some of their shoes.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #16
In 2008 I liked Hillary. Not now. 840high Mar 2015 #17
Oh, c'mon Fumesucker Oilwellian Mar 2015 #18
I'm almost afraid to ask this... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #36
Roops, meant this for you Fumesucker Oilwellian Mar 2015 #39
I think the point is that sometimes the primary winner isn't known till June cyberswede Mar 2015 #20
Yup. Agschmid Mar 2015 #28
That's how I took it as well. KMOD Mar 2015 #29
Then we have another three months or so before calls for party unity are appropriate Fumesucker Mar 2015 #30
1 year, plus three months. KMOD Mar 2015 #31
LA LA LA LA Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #32
Now is that any way to behave at a rock n roll concert? Fumesucker Mar 2015 #33
Derp. HuckleB Mar 2015 #34
Someone needs a hug... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #35
Reminds me of when Grover Norquist equated the estate tax with the Holocaust RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #37
LOL, ouch. Hold onto that tape dissentient Mar 2015 #38

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. That was just weird
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:41 PM
Mar 2015

No I am not voting for her in the primary. No I am not a party unity type. However, she is better than a GOPer. But, wow I can't get over how weird that was. It was weird wasn't it?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. Well it's one of the weirdest things I have ever seen a Democrat say
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:46 PM
Mar 2015

OTOH I don't get out much and other than reading the boards and watching clips that are posted, I don't listen to politicians all that much. So, that was really weird to me. Like it broke my weird-o-meter. Oh and I like weird, just not that one.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
5. It was very weird.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:46 PM
Mar 2015

She is very weird. And creepy. I've never liked her personally. Just something about her. Creepy. That's really all I could describe it as.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. Yeah,
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:47 PM
Mar 2015

did you ever see that Star Trek episode where the crew made these robots heads explode by saying illogical things to them? I feel a bit like that right now.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
10. Oh well
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:53 PM
Mar 2015

that was one of the better, funnier episodes. Anyway the robots were completely functional androids and anything illogical could shut them down. They ended up exploding over phrases like hot is cold, the moon is more luminous than the sun, these aren't actually what they said, I forget the actual dialog it was a lifetime ago when I saw that, but you get the drift.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
15. Wasn't it "If everything I say is a lie, what does it mean if I say "I'm lying?""
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:17 AM
Mar 2015

Or am I thinking of some other show?

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. That's obviously taken out of context
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:47 PM
Mar 2015

to suit your twisted goals.

It's simple: for 2016, as long as Hillary is polling better than any alternative, it would be foolish to have any alternative. If the unthinkable does happen, and someone starts polling better than Hillary, then it would be foolish to have Party unity at that point.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
8. What is the context here? And what's the "party unity argument"? For, or against, or..?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:48 PM
Mar 2015

Sorry, I have just never seen this interview and don't know what they are referring to.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. The context makes it fairly clear this is during the 2008 primaries and she's talking about Obama
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:06 AM
Mar 2015

Although she can't bring herself to use his name.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
22. She must feel for some reason that people of color will not remember that primary
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:40 AM
Mar 2015

It seems she just assumes that they will vote in sufficient numbers for her to win regardless of the nasty racist shit she pulled.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
24. Most of America seems to have forgotten the Iraq war already..
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:54 AM
Mar 2015

I can't really say I blame Hillary for thinking that.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
18. Oh, c'mon Fumesucker
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:28 AM
Mar 2015

Hillary was so filled with Third Way Democratic party unity, after she realized she couldn't win the nomination, she and Bill went on a tear and publicly pumped up McCain. LOL But hey, that's OK in the New Democratic party! So get with the game, Fumey!



Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
39. Roops, meant this for you Fumesucker
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:46 AM
Mar 2015

I believe it was before...video is dated June, 2008. Who knows what her intentions were. I never have seen another Democrat lose a primary and then support the Republican candidate. Perhaps she was hoping he would name HER as his running mate. LOL

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
29. That's how I took it as well.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:16 AM
Mar 2015

But I think bringing up the Bobby Kennedy assassination was an odd thing to say. I also think many read into that a bit too deeply.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
30. Then we have another three months or so before calls for party unity are appropriate
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:18 AM
Mar 2015

At least according to one former candidate, anyway.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
37. Reminds me of when Grover Norquist equated the estate tax with the Holocaust
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:05 AM
Mar 2015

Then again, President Hillary may simply have been sleep deprived at the time. After all, when you're dead broke, that can happen.

http://www.theonion.com/video/us-condemned-for-preemptive-use-of-hillary-clinton,14367/

 

dissentient

(861 posts)
38. LOL, ouch. Hold onto that tape
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 02:23 AM
Mar 2015

It seems like a good response to those claiming that in the name of party unity we must get behind Hillary early!

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