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TexasTowelie

(112,237 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:07 AM Mar 2015

Alabama GOP proposes bill to let judges opt out of marrying gay couples — and Jews and Muslims too!

Alabama is in turmoil this week over conflicting rulings on the state’s same-sex marriage ban, but Republicans’ last-ditch efforts to outlaw marriage equality are getting truly desperate.

This week, GOP State Rep. Jim Hill proposed a measure that would allow judges and religious leaders not only to opt out of performing marriages that defy their religious beliefs, but also to choose not to recognize them — for the sake of “religious liberty.”

The bill, known as the Freedom of Religion in Marriage Protection Act, has the potential to reach far beyond the LGBT community and same-sex couples who wish to marry, and could also pave the way for probate judges not to grant marriage licenses (or divorces) to couples of different religious backgrounds. In one example, Alabama ACLU executive director Susan Watson told The Guardian “a Catholic judge could refuse to marry a Hindu, Muslim or Jewish couple” under the proposed law.

“We probably haven’t even uncovered all … the unintended consequences of this bill,” ​ Watson​ said. “Well, I don’t know if they’re unintended.”

Read more: http://www.salon.com/2015/03/05/alabama_gop_proposes_bill_to_allow_judges_to_opt_out_of_marrying_gay_people_and_jews_and_muslims_too/

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Alabama GOP proposes bill to let judges opt out of marrying gay couples — and Jews and Muslims too! (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2015 OP
They tried to opt out of the Union once, and failed. elleng Mar 2015 #1
They're gonna opt themselves out of the global economy if they aren't careful Ex Lurker Mar 2015 #5
I hope to heck you're right, elleng Mar 2015 #6
My Head Hurts... Oubaas Mar 2015 #2
THis is sure to leave some people quite conflicted. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #3
Proceed, dumbshit. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #4
Aren't they already allowed to opt out? Voice for Peace Mar 2015 #7
Easy mistake to make n/t Adrahil Mar 2015 #8
Are these same judges quizzing heterosexual couples as to whether they have had premarital sex? tanyev Mar 2015 #9

Ex Lurker

(3,814 posts)
5. They're gonna opt themselves out of the global economy if they aren't careful
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:51 AM
Mar 2015

Companies like Mercedes Benz will think twice about locating another plant in Alabama.

Oubaas

(131 posts)
2. My Head Hurts...
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:21 AM
Mar 2015

So, once they've legally stopped Gay people, Jews, and Muslims from marrying the people that they love, what do you suppose will be next?

I'm a little worried at the personal level here. My wife is originally from another country and continent, and what with the subtle remarks that some of my fellow Americans slip into conversation about "foreigners" that they think that I don't notice in the cloak of humor in which they come wrapped (I call them "shit-filled Twinkies&quot , I could imagine the same people objecting to me being married to a "foreign" woman.

I mean, come on! I'm a disabled vet! Where's my patriotism? How dare I fall in love with a gosh darn foreigner? She may look like us, but as soon as she speaks, you can tell she's not from here!

Maybe we shouldn't tell people who to love and who they can marry. Maybe we should just be glad that they love each other instead of them shooting at each other. But what do I know? I'm just an old disabled veteran.

Behind the Aegis

(53,959 posts)
3. THis is sure to leave some people quite conflicted.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:26 AM
Mar 2015

I think the ALCU's use of the "Catholic judge" is a bit funny though. With the exception of Louisiana, Catholics aren't much liked in the deep South either.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
7. Aren't they already allowed to opt out?
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 04:18 AM
Mar 2015

Seems I've heard countless tales over the years of priests,
or other religious dudes, refusing to marry somebody or other
for some religious reason..? OK I am confusing right wing
judges with religious dudes. my bad.

tanyev

(42,565 posts)
9. Are these same judges quizzing heterosexual couples as to whether they have had premarital sex?
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 09:14 AM
Mar 2015

Or whether their relationship began by being unfaithful to an existing partner? Let's be consistent here, Christo-fascists.

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