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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts) Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:16 AM Mar 2015

Under Conscience Rules Christian Judges Can Refuse To Marry Non Believers.

Based on Alabama logic if you are a federal, state, local judge or JP and you are Christian you can refuse to marry anyone not of YOUR religious belief based on religious freedom. That is even though you are charged with providing a service to the public as a public official. Does that mean that if you are a Jew, Hindu, Moslem or some other religion seeing a public service that you must find a judge of your religion? Or if you are an atheist you have to find an "atheist" judge.

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Under Conscience Rules Christian Judges Can Refuse To Marry Non Believers. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 OP

Separation of church and state, freedom of religion - including freedom FROM religion peacebird Mar 2015 #1

Using Religious Freedom Just Takes Back To Why People Fled Europe Et Al In The First Place. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 #2

No law respecting an establishment of religion shenmue Mar 2015 #3

Does that also mean safeinOhio Mar 2015 #4

Good question. Years ago the churches tried to do that but then it involved their church ceremony jwirr Mar 2015 #5

funny this morning i was at a small business networking breakfast and the new guy across from me dembotoz Mar 2015 #6

Don't conflate a state marriage with a religious marriage. rgbecker Mar 2015 #7

peacebird

(14,195 posts)

1. Separation of church and state, freedom of religion - including freedom FROM religion

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:18 AM

Mar 2015

Quaint but valuable ideas....

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)

2. Using Religious Freedom Just Takes Back To Why People Fled Europe Et Al In The First Place.

Reply to peacebird (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:22 AM

Mar 2015

shenmue

(38,506 posts)

3. No law respecting an establishment of religion

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:25 AM

Mar 2015

It's a crazy idea, it just may work!

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)

4. Does that also mean

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:33 AM

Mar 2015

A Catholic doesn't have to marry a Lutheran or Baptist or visa versa?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)

5. Good question. Years ago the churches tried to do that but then it involved their church ceremony

Reply to safeinOhio (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:42 AM

Mar 2015

not a government official.

dembotoz

(16,808 posts)

6. funny this morning i was at a small business networking breakfast and the new guy across from me

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:50 AM

Mar 2015

said his company dealt with christians.....
seems my money would be tainted somehow

i would betcha a paycheck that these same christian judges would have no
problem sending an non christian to prison or to death

sorta hypocritical

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)

7. Don't conflate a state marriage with a religious marriage.

Reply to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)

Fri Mar 6, 2015, 11:55 AM

Mar 2015

The gay marriage issue may involve both these areas but the only one being debated by "the state" is the one that gets issued a state license. And it is this license that benefits the holder in terms of taxes, inheritance, social security benefits etc. Alabama is on thin ice claiming freedom from having to issue a "state" license because of some religious idea of "Marriage." I predict in June they'll fall through that ice along with the other states which have confused the state with a religion.

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