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marym625
(17,997 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)It takes me a week to feel normal again after the clocks move.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Going to post it. You're not alone
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I know it stinks in the Winter but the Summer is awesome to not get dark until almost 10 o'clock (depending on where you are). I think we complain every time we have to change for a day or two and get used to it quickly. It is only an hour for goodness sake. Yes the first day of work stinks. I think we should change them on a Friday night instead of Saturday night to get two days to get used to it before working again.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Suicide rate going up, no matter how tiny of an increase, isn't worth it. But if we have to keep it, Friday would make more sense
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)But I don't have any medical study on it. I am going to check though. Tomorrow though. Have to get to bed. Lose an hour sleep and have a long day tomorrow. .
Reter
(2,188 posts)n/t
marym625
(17,997 posts)The loss of sleep triggers an episode. Not like they're upset about DST.
How compassionate of you
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)I havent heard of mass people commiting suicide over dst, and I dont think we should let the few who might determine narional policy
marym625
(17,997 posts)Use only that as a reason to change what we currently do with daylight saving time/standard time. Just saying if we are going to change it, it should be part of the consideration.
However, I don't believe it will change anytime soon.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Wanna ban sports too? I didn't like losing sleep and time last night either and I'm still here. I'm not a loose cannon.
I didn't say anything about banning DST. Please chill.
Silent3
(15,212 posts)...why play stupid games with the clock at all? Why isn't everything scheduled to start and end an hour earlier?
The only reason for the DST game of switching clocks back and forth is so that fixed schedules -- like, say, the hours of a store being 10AM-9PM, or your job 8AM-5PM -- don't need to change twice per year.
If you don't want the clocks to change, however, and rather than saying 1:00PM is average noon time in the middle of your every time zone, keep noon 12PM and make the store hours 9-8, and the work hours 7-4.
Works for me
Reter
(2,188 posts)It won't listen, so we have to do it manually.
Silent3
(15,212 posts)There is an actual meaning to the idea of "12:00", however, that isn't entirely arbitrary.
Nominally "noon", or 12:00, is when the "mean sun" reaches its highest point in the sky. The "mean sun" isn't a real celestial object, but it's the position of the real sun with its annual variations averaged out.
With time zones, 12:00 in a particular time zone means noon for (typically) the middle of that time zone, such that local mean noon is usually only off by as much as half an hour as you move across the time zone, with maybe some greater deviations allowed to follow convenient geographic or political boundaries.
What we're doing when DST starts up is saying "for the next few months, let's pretend noon is 1:00PM, not 12:00". That's kind of a weird thing, but it makes sense from the standpoint that it gets us an extra hour of sunlight in the evening of the day (that we lose from the morning), without having to change the way schedules for schools and government offices and businesses are stated twice per year.
But if most people, all year round, want more sunlight when they leave work, and don't care as much about how much sunlight they have in the morning, which makes more sense? Pretend that 12:00 never had any connection with the idea of noon, or change our actually schedules once, get it over with, and declare that we'd rather come into work an hour earlier and go home an hour earlier?
Reter
(2,188 posts)If you could figure out a way for that to happen without changing the time, then I'm all ears.
Silent3
(15,212 posts)For that the spring-forward/fall-back DST thing is a reasonably practical solution.
But when people propose shifting to DST forever, "springing ahead and never going back", to me that's absurd, because that would indicate that the fundamental problem is the hours of the day we schedule things for, not the numbers we assign to those hours.
The problem is that the standard 9-5 job (less common these days) never really made much sense. Three AM hours followed by five PM hours and people complain about not enough evening daylight. I always thought an 8-4 schedule would make more sense. But as I said, fewer people kept regular office hours these days.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)As I get older, the reasons I have for wanting DST to be the standard just aren't as important as they used to be. But I still prefer it.
One time or the other is the more important thing.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's so depressing when it gets dark so early.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Why we have to change at all. Seems rather silly. Since we already spend most of the year on DST, let's just make it year round
shenmue
(38,506 posts)I wants my sleepy time!
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)Wish we stayed on it.
salib
(2,116 posts)Honesty, I really look forward to the change. It is part of the coming of Spring to me.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Stay year round on each?
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)So, no sir, I don't like DST.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2015, 07:36 AM - Edit history (1)
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)You speak of ?
ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)ping pong with the damned clocks, already!
sP
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)depressing to me. Winter is bad enough with the snow.
I hate feeling like I am getting up in the dead of night...
kaiden
(1,314 posts)Just when it starts to get light around 5:30 a.m. in March, we are plunged into darkness again until June. For people who don't get out of bed until 7:00 a.m. each day, it is no big deal. For those of you who are young enough to not have been alive prior to DST and believe the summer evening sky is only light because of it, you should know that summer nights are lighter longer anyway.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)In the wayback I drove ~45 minutes due east to work starting at ~ 6am into the rising sun.
Just about the date that the sun rose early enough to be covered by a visor, time got reset and I had to do another round of sun in the eyes. But because sunrise becomes earlier and earlier it didn't take but a week or so to be back behind the visor.
kaiden
(1,314 posts)We only gain two minutes of sunlight a day. We're out at 5:00 in the morning...today it was light at 7:00. We also drive east into Denver each morning...traffic is wretched with the sun rise as you know.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)it only took half a dozen or so finger widths of progression to get the sun to where a visor would again hide it during the time I drove.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Sorry, too good to pass up.
kaiden
(1,314 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)Cha
(297,240 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)didn't have a "HELL NO!".
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Kind of a pet peeve of mine.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)that the switch saved us billions of dollars.
I am still not clear on HOW that savings happens. Using fewer lights?
Conserving energy IS a bit of a priority for me.
meow2u3
(24,764 posts)I like to get my sleep and have daylight later in the afternoon.