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Thu Apr 2, 2015, 06:48 AM

 

"...Gas chambers were a 'detail' of WWII history", says France's Front National.

http://www.france24.com/en/

This from the twitter feed on France 24:

Unrepentant: Founder of #France far-right Front National, #JeanMarieLePen , says still believes gas chambers were a "detail" of WWII history

And, this unspeakable, fascist movement just keeps growing here in France. All political observers say they are now 'a force to be reckoned with', a viable third party in France.

God forbid they should ever take the reigns of power.

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Reply "...Gas chambers were a 'detail' of WWII history", says France's Front National. (Original post)
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
MADem Apr 2015 #1
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #3
mylye2222 Apr 2015 #4
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6
PeteSelman Apr 2015 #2
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
linuxman Apr 2015 #7
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
cali Apr 2015 #26
pampango Apr 2015 #9
cali Apr 2015 #22
PeteSelman Apr 2015 #23
cali Apr 2015 #24
PeteSelman Apr 2015 #25
trumad Apr 2015 #28
cali Apr 2015 #29
Orsino Apr 2015 #10
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #11
appalachiablue Apr 2015 #12
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #13
appalachiablue Apr 2015 #19
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #20
mylye2222 Apr 2015 #14
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #15
tishaLA Apr 2015 #16
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #21
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #27
KamaAina Apr 2015 #17
Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #18

Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:01 AM

1. Isn't it pretty much down to Sarkozy and LePen? Dumb and Way, Way Dumber, in essence? nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:04 AM

3. Well, yeah, and Sarko keeps edging further and further right

 

to poach some of these RW voters. Bad, sad trend in France.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:09 AM

4. Exact Surya.

 

France is going politically uglyer and uglyer everyday...

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Response to mylye2222 (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:13 AM

6. ^^^AMEN to that^^^

 

Salut mylye! Comment за va ?

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:03 AM

2. Well, they are a detail aren't they?

They're certainly not the whole story of WWII. The invasion of Poland is a detail. D-Day is a detail. The Bataan Death March is a detail.

Your link leads to nothing useful so I don't understand the context. Who are these people? Is "detail" an insult?

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:11 AM

5. Breaking twitter feed from right-hand side bar of linked page. Nothing more, yet.

 

You may not understand the charged historical and political background to this.

Saying something this 'incendiary' in the French context is tantamount to being a 'holocaust denier'.

Bad, sad trend for France.

ETA:
The Front National is the neo-fascist political movement in France, comparable to the British National Front:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_%28France%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_%28UK%29

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:15 AM

7. While factually correct, your point will be lost in a storm of umbrage

 

In truth, it is just another of many details. That doesn't mean it isn't important, but I've honestly talked to people in my time who were convinced we went to war with Germany to stop the Holocaust.

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Response to linuxman (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:55 AM

8. Among the former frontline protagonists, i.e. DE and FR, anything

 

remotely like 'holocaust denial' is inflammatory.

70 years on, and still a very, very sensitive issue.

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Response to linuxman (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:19 AM

26. a detail by definition, is a small feature

 

Of course we didn't go to war because of genocide, but historians certainly don't consider Hitler's genocide, a detail.

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 08:51 AM

9. But no modern political party is claiming that D-Day or the Bataan Death March were just "details"

of WWII.

I wonder why the National Front chose to depict the Holocaust - only - as a 'detail'.

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 07:35 AM

22. no. none of those are details

 

They are seminal events. You actually think that the genocide of millions is a detail? Amazing.

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:06 AM

23. In the truest sense of the word, yes.

I set no limits on the magnitude of said details.

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:09 AM

24. baloney. find one respected historian of the period

 

who would classify the holocaust as a "detail".

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:17 AM

25. Hogwash.

If I tell you I have a car, you might ask for details about it. What make? Model? Color? Engine size? Etc.

All major points, all details and specifics.

There was this war, it was called World War II.

Oh yeah? Who was in it? Can you give me some details?

Well there was Germany, Italy, Japan, England, Russia, The United States......


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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:26 AM

28. Pete...

 

Come in...Really?

O E Vey!

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Response to PeteSelman (Reply #25)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:26 AM

29. codswallop

 

Laughable and stunningly bad comparison.

Sorry, but the holocaust is considered by every legitimate historian of the period, to be a seminal feature. Now,of course, revionist historians disagree.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:10 AM

10. I'm guessing that the statement was not issued in German. n/t

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Response to Orsino (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 10:14 AM

11. In French, by the leader of the French neo-fascist movement.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:22 PM

12. So the Civil War was about states rights and Northern aggression, not slavery. Not. Unbelievable

and only 70 years after France's occupation by Nazis who shipped French Jews to eastern camps or murdered them along with many others including women and children. My father liberated one of those 'details', at Dachau after the Rhineland Campaign when he was a first lieutenant artillerist in the 7th Army. Some of his time was also spent in southern France. I wonder what he would say about this like many who risked their life there, and his suffering battle fatigue after his unit was shelled by German 88s, the largest artillery guns in the war and he took command to lead his convoy to safety. Madame Le Pen should be__________.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:24 PM

13. Yes, she and all of her neo-fascist pack should be_________!

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:34 PM

19. Isn't there some way to induce the crazy RW authoritarians & fascists to relocate to another

remote, unpopulated region where they can create a dictatorial and theological society of their liking with their devoted followers? They'd be so happy and it wouldn't be the first time this has happened in human history. Thinking of some of the Nazi refugees in SA, one who actually recreated a Bavarian style village with ye old traditions where he was the supreme leader (and pervert) of his own colony cult. I can see Le Pen, Cruz, Santorum and others thriving in a place like that. Help disinfect free, democratic republics and societies!

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:45 PM

20. Well, their stronghold in France is the rural areas, but France is only so big...LOL! They're here,

 

they're alive, and they're coming!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:26 PM

14. Will that POS old war criminel Papy Le Pen die one day!

 

The whole planet will be GRATEFULL. One polluting jerk less

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Response to mylye2222 (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:28 PM

15. Unfortunately, his spawn is still young and healthy!

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:29 PM

16. LePen's piggishness has no bottom

If he could insult Jews, Muslims, LGBT, and Africans in one sentence, I think he'd collapse in ecstasy.

When I lived in Paris, my introduction to LePen was seeing him on TV screaming "pedes!" at people protesting him. Vile, vile man

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:46 PM

21. Truly a pond scum, bottom feeder. And his daughter is a carbon copy, just easier to look at.

 

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:21 AM

27. Lowest of the low...even his daughter is tryng to distance herself from him now.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:29 PM

17. So was the atom bomb, I guess

 

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 03:30 PM

18. Oh, snap. A minor footnote of history...

 

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