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that so many of the right wing bigots (in light of the IN,AR LGBT laws) use the same argument I see all over the net by MRA's against feminists:
1) It's not discrimination, there are valid reasons we do these things, like apes and some other horseshit... or religion
2) It worse in other countries, what are you doing worrying about 1st world problems?? .... women get stoned and gays get killed in other countries. You are really LUCKY... see....
3) Women are just looking for things to be upset about..... door doors doors, cakes cakes cakes
4) These laws protecting you are discriminating against me... What about my free speech, can't we all just be equal... again... I get to say and do what I want (with the full support of society holding you down) and you get to too.... yeah, right! It is you social justice warriors who are the ones doing the discriminating!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)hlthe2b
(102,448 posts)yardwork
(61,729 posts)Patriarchy and the need of the insecure to be in charge leads to misogyny, homophobia, racism, xenophobia, domestic violence, war mongering, and and a lot of other problems caused by assholes that detract from the enjoyment of life on the part of the rest of us. I wish they would all get the mental health care they need.
boston bean
(36,224 posts)You said the "P" word.... waiting for some hellfire and brimstone incoming soon! LOL
yardwork
(61,729 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,773 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Used by whites against blacks.
Used by Romans against the indigenous people they conquered.
Probably used by Homo Sapiens against the Neanderthals.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)bigotry and racism is all the rage in this the 21st century. The fathers of this "phenomenon got elected in 1980 and it's just been growing in increments since then because there has been no 'real' fight coming from our position(s) of leadership.........just going along with minor blips of whining every once in a while. 2016
treestar
(82,383 posts)Their "god said it" "or nature decreed it" BS never ends in spite of proof that women can do things they were previously thought biologically incapable of.
2 I can sort of not get upset about - more progress has been made here and we can admit that without trying to exaggerate our reality - it is horrible to live as a female in S.A. or under the Taliban in ways not experienced here. Does not mean we can't go for more progress even so.
I think in the West we are at the tipping point where we don't have to cling to the victim side of it and can step up and take equality and thumb our noses at the foot-draggers. "Women are by nature more gentle " well women are running for president and trying to be generals, so too bad, sexist!
MRAs are pathetic only - yeah, you're not getting laid because we get to pick and choose too now, dumbass.
I just think I am in the mood for more tough talk like that rather than emphasizing more what still is wrong.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)or thinking logically. A deadly combination.
The belief that women are not equal to men is locked into the human cultural consciousness as "just the way things are, and have always been".
This is why women are by far the most discriminated against group forever and always, and for us, changing hearts and minds is a long, frustrating process. It's very rare that I have been able to convince a sexist that any of their dearly held beliefs are skewed and unreasonable. It's been a slow and difficult process, even among liberal/progressive women and men.
So we really need to get massive legislation passed that combats all forms of sexism, misogyny, and inequality.
The overall numbers of minority group members have been growing exponentially for years, and will continue to grow. I suggest that right now, we begin our campaign to unify all the minorities in the US in order to create a massive Democratic voting bloc that will crush this RW machine that prevents us all from becoming genuinely equal.
Make it perfectly clear to all that the white straight conservative male is the clear and present deadly enemy of all of us.
Create a general social and political consciousness that will help all minority members understand that by unifying we can eliminate the white straight male conservative threat to our equality and secure existence forever.
The notion that "my cause is your cause, I support you, you support me, and we will all get what what we need", needs to be spoken and manifested in every way possible to create this unification that will end the white male conservative threat and control over our lives en masse.
Women, LGBT, ancestral African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanics, conscious progressive white men, Asians, the disabled, etc, banding together with a single focused and determined immutable will and purpose:
To stop the power of the white conservative straight men forever by voting them out of office in great numbers. Their time is up. White conservative straight men are a malicious numerical minority who have managed to maintain an inordinate amount of political and social power and control over us for eons, despite their minority in numbers
We will not be able to significantly change the general social consciousness of our culture until we remove the white straight conservative males from power. Only after we do this will we be able to control the national dialogue and progress until we attain informational critical mass and evolve a general cultural consciousness where genuine equality and justice for everyone becomes the cultural norm. We must tear down the unconscious barriers that prevent us from being understood as being equal from the general cultural consciousness.
Only then will it be possible for women to be truly equal in the eyes of most everyone.
We can, and we will, stop them if we all unite against their twisted tyranny, and stop them from having any control of our lives forever.
No More, Ever.