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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:53 PM Apr 2015

Chuck Schumer upchucks at sight of TPP

http://jimhightower.com/node/8584

Sen. Chuck Schumer, leader of the corporate wing of congressional Democrats, never met a global trade deal too ugly to hug. So when even he says, "This is really troubling," you know his eyes have been singed by something truly hideous.

That "something" is the trade scam called Trans-Pacific Partnership. The scam is that TPP only masquerades as a trade deal, while actually being a gross enlargement of multinational corporate power over our people's sovereignty. Specifically, a chapter of this secretly-negotiated, 12-nation deal empowers foreign corporations to challenge America's laws, rules, and court rulings – whether local, state, or national – by suing our governments in private, corporate-run tribunals set up by the United Nations or the World Bank.

That's what made Chuck nearly upchuck. "Savvy, deep-pocketed foreign conglomerates," he gasped, "could challenge a broad range of laws we pass at every level of government, such as made-in-America laws or anti-tobacco laws." Exactly....

Even the corporate and governmental elites who have secretly negotiated this raw deal knew that its uglies would gag you, me, and even Schumer. So they added an extra layer of secrecy, mandating that the sovereignty-busting chapter not be declassified until four years after TPP is approved.
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Chuck Schumer upchucks at sight of TPP (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2015 OP
If TPP goes thru, then there is no reason to participate in the system anymore NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #1
Then how can you change the system if you refuse to participate in it? nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #5
Stuff like Occupy Wall St. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #9
Doesn't changing the political system require voting as well? Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #10
Uh... probably Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12
If your participation is meaningless, why do it? progressoid Apr 2015 #13
This abomination seems to have scared every objective person hifiguy Apr 2015 #2
These guys? KamaAina Apr 2015 #3
It does have a sort of Krusty the Klown feel to it. hifiguy Apr 2015 #4
That was the Simpsons version of the Illuminati KamaAina Apr 2015 #6
If Homer is in the Illuminati, hifiguy Apr 2015 #7
He didn't last long KamaAina Apr 2015 #8
meh I think this is theater and they are doing a con job on the American people Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #11
So they're going to pull an Indiana. GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #14
From Schumer? I think you are right. From Warren I would have faith, but not from Corporate Chuck. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #15
Agree. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #21
+1 just like 2007-8 nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #24
Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #16
It's good for the rich, though. And that's who counts. Octafish Apr 2015 #17
After responsible people retake Congress Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #18
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #19
Holy shit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #20
Surprisingly good news. n/t Wilms Apr 2015 #22
N S, S Schumer. WinkyDink Apr 2015 #23
In what alternate universe ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #26
Irony. We won't participate in the International Criminal Court, but will submit... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #27
Kangaroo court? KamaAina Apr 2015 #28
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. Uh... probably
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:11 PM
Apr 2015

It's a good idea to vote but I thought you were asking how can people change the system without participating in it.

People sometimes organize to challenge dominant systems in, ya know like, other ways.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
13. If your participation is meaningless, why do it?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:36 PM
Apr 2015

Why vote for someone who passes bills that serve corporations and not the people who voted for them? To be clear, I'm not advocating not participating, but if TPP passes, and most of America doesn't want it, I can see how people will be turned off by the political process.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
2. This abomination seems to have scared every objective person
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:27 PM
Apr 2015

who has seen it fourteen shades of shitless.

Now who is pushing this thing again? Who negotiated it? Makes ya wonder, don't it?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
11. meh I think this is theater and they are doing a con job on the American people
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:02 PM
Apr 2015

They know there is a popular movement against TPP and so they have to pretend to care and "fix" it before passing it.

Schumer and a few other big dogs will come in a say Oh My God we found all this horrible stuff in the TPP. OK we're taking it out now so all your movements can stand down with the outrage. Then they pass a so-called compromise or "fixed" version of the deal, but it will still screw workers, the environment, etc.

The only acceptable result is NO TPP. It can not be fixed because it is rotten to the very core. The only purpose of TPP is to serve corporate power.


GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
15. From Schumer? I think you are right. From Warren I would have faith, but not from Corporate Chuck.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:23 PM
Apr 2015

A blanket NO to TPP.

You are correct :

It can not be fixed because it is rotten to the very core.

It can not be fixed because it is rotten to the very core.

It can not be fixed because it is rotten to the very core.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
24. +1 just like 2007-8
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 08:18 PM
Apr 2015


They know they can say whatever they want because the people never hold them accountable. Many can't even remember last week.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
16. Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:25 PM
Apr 2015

corporate coup' d'états.

Whitehouse Comments: 202-456-1111

United States Capitol switchboard: 202-224-3121

I called yesterday. Be polite and show gratitude.


Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
18. After responsible people retake Congress
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

We need to have hearing in which Senator Warren asks the idiots who negotiated this deal what they thought they were doing.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
25. In what alternate universe ...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 09:03 PM
Apr 2015

... does the statement "This is really troubling" equal "Schumer upchucks at sight of TPP"?

"So they added an extra layer of secrecy, mandating that the sovereignty-busting chapter not be declassified until four years after TPP is approved."

It is the drafts (working papers re negotiations) that will be declassified after four years, NOT the chapters of the final agreement themselves.

It's sad to see this kind of hyperbolic, fact-free "information" being disseminated - no less believed.

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