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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:36 AM Apr 2015

Statue That Cast Edward Snowden As A Hero Removed And Held By New York Police

New York: For one morning, a statue of Edward Snowden, the former US intelligence contractor and whistleblower variously regarded as a dissident hero and national traitor, stood high atop a hill in New York City.

Hours later, the unauthorised sculpture was shrouded in plastic, removed by the city's Parks and Recreation Department as the media and locals watched on, before being transported to the local police precinct.
New York City Parks workers work to remove a covered large molded bust of Edward Snowden at Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn.

New York City Parks workers work to remove a covered large molded bust of Edward Snowden at Fort Greene Park in Brooklyn. Photo: Reuters

But two of the artists behind the sculpture, who spoke to Fairfax Media on condition of anonymity, hope that its presence, however fleeting, will help spark conversation about Snowden, surveillance and the American ideals they say he was fighting for.

"We were both dismayed that Snowden and the ideals that his actions represent haven't gotten more traction in mainstream media," one of the artists said.

"It's not just Snowden, it's Bradley [now Chelsea] Manning and every other whistleblower whose fighting for the ideals this nation was founded upon. Snowden is an easy representation to use, so we used his visual."



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http://www.smh.com.au/world/statue-that-cast-edward-snowden-as-a-hero-removed-and-held-by-new-york-police-20150407-1mfjyl.html



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Statue That Cast Edward Snowden As A Hero Removed And Held By New York Police (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2015 OP
That's a good likeness... 2naSalit Apr 2015 #1
K&R for the sheer pettiness of removing it. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #2
Cleaning a desecrated war memorial is petty? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #5
If they thought for themselves they would understand that Snowden's conduct was as brave JDPriestly Apr 2015 #6
I thought Progressives tried to be tolerant of others' opinions. randome Apr 2015 #12
We should all be tolerant of the opinins of others. Those who took down the statute were JDPriestly Apr 2015 #19
hero, not traitor dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #13
Kick elias49 Apr 2015 #3
What charges are they holding it on? Rex Apr 2015 #4
Statutory Pillory jberryhill Apr 2015 #7
The cops probably got tired of seeing Snowden put on a pedestal. Rex Apr 2015 #16
Did it resist arrest? Savannahmann Apr 2015 #8
It refused to lie down and put its hands behind its neck. randome Apr 2015 #14
Can they get the artist that did this bust to re-do the Lucy one? nt boston bean Apr 2015 #9
Didn't see that one coming. :sarcasm: randome Apr 2015 #10
I like that statue dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #11
Spray Painting it on the Vietnam War Memorial would be even excellenter, eh? jberryhill Apr 2015 #17
All you need to do is get someone to place in their own private yard. brooklynite Apr 2015 #20
The artists thought too small. Anyone know the true story of the Wall St Bull statue? Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #15
I'll make sure the NYPD knows that I volunteer for sledgehammer duty... stevenleser Apr 2015 #18
I assume the people who want the statue returned have no objection... brooklynite Apr 2015 #21

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
1. That's a good likeness...
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 02:42 AM
Apr 2015

too bad. It sure looks better than that scary thing that was supposed to be Lucy Arnaz.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
5. Cleaning a desecrated war memorial is petty?
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 03:45 AM
Apr 2015

Even if you personally don't think of Snowden as a traitor, I hope you'll acknowledge that the majority of those whom the memorial is intended to honour probably would have done, and would have been grossly insulted.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. I thought Progressives tried to be tolerant of others' opinions.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:51 AM
Apr 2015

As I said in a thread last night, the 'conversation' that Snowden wanted to occur has come and gone. He just didn't like the result. I suppose you don't, either.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
19. We should all be tolerant of the opinins of others. Those who took down the statute were
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 04:19 PM
Apr 2015

not tolerant of those who approve of Snowden. And yes I approve of Snowden's outing of the NSA's violations of several provisions in the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution.

As I understand it, Obama promised to remedy the most egregious of those violations and require warrants based on probable cause as required by the Fourth Amendment in order to obtain the contents and information about our private electronic transmissions including e-mails and telephone calls. If I am wrong, then Obama is wrong, wrong, wrong and in violation of the Constitution.

 

dolphinsandtuna

(231 posts)
13. hero, not traitor
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:57 AM
Apr 2015

"Prison Ship Monument in Fort Greene Park, Brooklyn, which commemorates the lives of American prisoners who died on British ships during the Revolutionary War. "

In the early days of this country, people paid a lot more attention to liberty and the effect of corrupt government actions. If we're in the business of trying to support our views by claiming others who can't speak for themselves would support them, I think I have an equal degree of reason in saying they'd think he also was a hero.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. The cops probably got tired of seeing Snowden put on a pedestal.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 12:27 PM
Apr 2015

No doubt metro rode their high horses in to bring Snowden down. I hear he didn't udder a single word to the cops.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
8. Did it resist arrest?
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:18 AM
Apr 2015

I only ask because it seems like everyone that the NYPD says hello to is charged with Resisting Arrest.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. It refused to lie down and put its hands behind its neck.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:04 AM
Apr 2015

It kept mumbling "Vladimir? Laura? Where are you? Why is everything so dark?"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Didn't see that one coming. :sarcasm:
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:49 AM
Apr 2015

Snowden would have benefited if he'd been stoned much earlier in life.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
[/center][/font][hr]

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
20. All you need to do is get someone to place in their own private yard.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 04:24 PM
Apr 2015

People could visit it on pilgrimages...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. The artists thought too small. Anyone know the true story of the Wall St Bull statue?
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:44 AM
Apr 2015

It was also placed by the artist unknown to the city and not permitted. It was also removed by NYPD and impounded. Public sentiment returned it to the street, and while I have not updated on the story for years, the piece has always been a problem for NY, as the city does not own it, it is very famous now, and so forth.
It's an interesting story, and one that springs to mind with this piece. A very nice likeness of Snowden, beats the hell out of that Jamestown Lucy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charging_Bull

brooklynite

(94,723 posts)
21. I assume the people who want the statue returned have no objection...
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 04:28 PM
Apr 2015

...to the Rush Limbaugh bust in the Missouri Capitol? You wouldn't be making exceptions just because you like one and not the other?

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