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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:05 PM Apr 2015

Christie's crushed. Indictments expected soon in the bridge-gate scandal.

It has been falsely predicted many times in the last year, but now it seems to be true: The federal investigation into the lane closings at the George Washington Bridge appears to be coming to a head, with an announcement of indictments as early as next week.

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People close to the case say prosecutors are likely to bring charges based on a rarely used provision of a fraud statute, under which they would argue that Mr. Christie’s associates used the bridge, or the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs it, for a purpose other than its intended one. In the case of the bridge, the closings were apparently meant to punish Mayor Mark Sokolich of Fort Lee, a Democrat, after he declined to endorse the governor’s re-election bid in 2013.

What is less certain is whether prosecutors will find crimes in the other ways Mr. Christie used his powers in the service of political ambition. He used Port Authority money to fill holes in his budget; his lieutenants doled out flags and steel from the remnants of the World Trade Center to woo mayors whose endorsements they sought. An office of “intergovernmental affairs” worked to cultivate endorsements, all in the hopes that the governor could use a huge winning margin to argue that he was the Republican most likely to win the White House in 2016.

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Ms. Kelly, meanwhile, has been publicly silent for 15 months. But in a rare statement in May, her lawyer alluded to a wider network involved. “Anyone who thinks they are going to rewrite history and make Ms. Kelly a scapegoat,” he wrote, “is gravely mistaken.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/09/nyregion/indictments-may-be-near-in-george-washington-bridge-scandal.html

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Christie's crushed. Indictments expected soon in the bridge-gate scandal. (Original Post) pnwmom Apr 2015 OP
I want to see felonies after felonies hanging on Christie's shoulders Smithryee Apr 2015 #1
This will be fun to watch Gothmog Apr 2015 #2
K&R! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #3
I am trying to be ready to accept that the only people to get indicted will be fall guys. djean111 Apr 2015 #4
I doubt that they will all be willing to take the fall. n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #5
Tom DeLay didn't suffer much, even after being cvonvicted. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #20
I doubt Christie will get charged. I assume his minions will. nt Logical Apr 2015 #6
Probably not. But will they be willing to go to prison for him? n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #7
Good point. But wouldn't the feds have pressured them already? nt Logical Apr 2015 #8
Maybe this "leak" is meant to put some last-minute pressure on aides who were hoping pnwmom Apr 2015 #9
It doesn't appear Ms. Kelley is planning to... Oilwellian Apr 2015 #10
Does this sound like a plea deal in the making? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #11
The whole lot of them are dirt bags. ZX86 Apr 2015 #12
Using a bridge for a purpose other than its intended one? Scurrilous Apr 2015 #13
This probably explains customerserviceguy Apr 2015 #14
I Believe That Both.... Laxman Apr 2015 #15
I want Samson to sing sweeter than malaise Apr 2015 #16
This Has Been A Long Time Coming... Laxman Apr 2015 #17
Looks like folks got caught malaise Apr 2015 #23
Remember "Fitzmas" ??? Neither do I, because it never happened. I hope this is different. winstars Apr 2015 #27
That's A Good Question.... Laxman Apr 2015 #31
Speaking of suits, some of bastards in those orange ones would be nice!!! LOL winstars Apr 2015 #34
I certainly hope not, Laxman! Why would they? Spend time in prison? Cha Apr 2015 #29
from Mad Magazine wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #18
Lol! BeanMusical Apr 2015 #21
That was a sickening time in History. I imagine if christie runs for the prez.. the primary gops Cha Apr 2015 #30
let the games begin.... spanone Apr 2015 #19
I hope he has a personal reason to feel crushed Jack Rabbit Apr 2015 #22
I doubt that Christie will get hit with something easy to prosecute MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #24
I sure hope so! nt cwydro Apr 2015 #25
Good. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #26
... Unknown Beatle Apr 2015 #28
Yay! Hope it ruins the bastard! bettyellen Apr 2015 #32
"doled out flags and steel from the remnants" Babel_17 Apr 2015 #33
 

Smithryee

(157 posts)
1. I want to see felonies after felonies hanging on Christie's shoulders
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:06 PM
Apr 2015

and force his entire maladministration to resign and himself to resign, so Senate President can take the Gov seat.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. I am trying to be ready to accept that the only people to get indicted will be fall guys.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:22 PM
Apr 2015

And I still doubt that even getting indicted will hurt Christie with GOP voters. They love them some swaggering bullies.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
9. Maybe this "leak" is meant to put some last-minute pressure on aides who were hoping
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:36 PM
Apr 2015

not to be indicted. It will be interesting, if they do go to trial, to listen to their defense.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Does this sound like a plea deal in the making?
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Apr 2015

Ms. Kelly, meanwhile, has been publicly silent for 15 months. But in a rare statement in May, her lawyer alluded to a wider network involved. “Anyone who thinks they are going to rewrite history and make Ms. Kelly a scapegoat,” he wrote, “is gravely mistaken.”

Sure sounds like a deal might be reached. Good for Kelly, bad for Christie.


ZX86

(1,428 posts)
12. The whole lot of them are dirt bags.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 09:50 PM
Apr 2015

When the shit hits the fan honor and loyalty are the first things to go out the window. Christie is going down. His associates and underlings will turn on him and each other like a pack of wild, rabid dogs.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
14. This probably explains
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:03 PM
Apr 2015

why Christie hasn't yet emerged from the clown car.

Bridgegate or not, he'd get crushed in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. And there aren't enough NJ emigres in Florida to save him, just ask Rudi Giulliani about that.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
15. I Believe That Both....
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:30 PM
Apr 2015

Kelly & Wildstein have cut deals with the U.S. Attorney. Guadagno has been VERY quiet-I believe she is in some serious jeopardy over the Hoboken shakedown. Samson severs all ties with his firm. Things are about to get extremely interesting. Nobody is going to take one for the team here.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
17. This Has Been A Long Time Coming...
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:40 PM
Apr 2015

and I hope it's because Fishman has been doing his work diligently. The dominoes are going to start to fall! Here's hoping entry #200 to the Christie Crime Digest is all about indictments!

"In Jersey everything's legal as long as you don't get caught"

winstars

(4,220 posts)
27. Remember "Fitzmas" ??? Neither do I, because it never happened. I hope this is different.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:25 PM
Apr 2015

Thanks again for the inside dope...

What side do you think planted this NYT story?

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
31. That's A Good Question....
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:48 AM
Apr 2015

after parsing through the article that is really based on "people close to the case". I really don't think it's either side. Everything in this article is based on things that have been released before. Even the use of the obscure statute is from a prior article back last year. (which was also based on "people close to the case&quot This article is entirely a speculation or formulation based on that body of information. (and a reasonable one at that) The Samson resignation just brought everything to a head and makes it seem like everything is falling into place.

If I had to guess who those "people close to the case" were, I'd say it's probably either one or two people who were interviewed by the U.S. Attorney or some of the hooked-in lawyers who are commenting like television sports analysts to the reporter and don't want to go on record. Nobody wants to go on record until they're sure the king is going down. Retribution is one of Christie's strong suits.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
30. That was a sickening time in History. I imagine if christie runs for the prez.. the primary gops
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:58 AM
Apr 2015

will bring it up.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
24. I doubt that Christie will get hit with something easy to prosecute
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:16 PM
Apr 2015

although, of course, I badly hope he does.

He's a smart (if evil) guy and a former federal prosecutor. I doubt if he did anything that obviously nails him, it would probably need to be a RICO-esque prosecution.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
33. "doled out flags and steel from the remnants"
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:23 AM
Apr 2015

"doled out flags and steel from the remnants" is something that needs to be questioned, repeatedly.

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