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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMariel Hemingway Says Woody Allen Tried to Seduce Her When She Was a Teenager
In Out Came the Sun, which will be released on April 7, Hemingway claims that Allen attempted to lure her to Paris once she turned 18two years after she had filmed Manhattan. Our relationship was platonic, but I started to see that he had a kind of crush on me, though I dismissed it as the kind of thing that seemed to happen any time middle-aged men got around young women, writes Hemingway. The actress suggests that Allen attempted to act upon the crush by flying to her parents home in Idaho and inviting the teen to Europe.
The actress cautioned her parents that I didnt know what the [sleeping] arrangement was going to be [in Paris], that I wasnt sure if I was even going to have my own room. Woody hadnt said that. He hadnt even hinted it. But I wanted them to put their foot down. They didnt. They kept lightly encouraging me.
Hemingway says that she woke up at night with the realization that no one was going to get their own room. His plan, such as it was, involved being with me. She says that she went into his guest room and woke him up asking, Im not going to get my own room, am I? I cant go to Paris with you. The actress says that Allen left Idaho the next morning.
http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/woody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan
I look forward to getting her book. I highly recommend the documentary "Running From Crazy" about her, her family, and depression.
I had always suspected he made advances on Mariel. In Manhattan, no character mentions how odd/sick it is for a 40-something to date a teenager, nor do they mention age difference. Look for that if you watch the film.
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Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)JI7
(89,261 posts)the whole thing makes allen just look creepy as he has for a long time now. how he arranged things with someone he knew before she was a legal adult to try to be with her and her not being into him.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Any residual benefit-of-the-doubt feeling I had kept toward Allen disappeared instantly (and I used to be a fan). Disgusting movie, disgusting man.
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phleshdef
(11,936 posts)I find a 44 year old going after an 18 year old in poor taste, but still, it should be made clear that she was legal.
Hekate
(90,771 posts)...his stepdaughter? Ugh. Ew. Ick.
Feh. He's a dirty old man. A cautious dirty old man, but one nonetheless.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)That rumor really needs to die, and "dirty old man" is not only meaningless, it's sexist and ageist.
lame54
(35,313 posts)time won out on that one
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)He is all she has known. She had a fucked up childhood with learning disabilities and a low IQ, and was taken advantage of sexually by a much older near-relative. Time my ass.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...and a masters degree from an Ivy League university.
"near-relative"
I'm not even sure what this means other than it's the same as a non-relative.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Heidi
(58,237 posts)The power differential between this powerful man and his alleged victims says a great deal.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)the entire movie was more than a little sick.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)the movie is full of references to her youth, the age differences, how odd the relationship is because of her age, etc.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)that amongst his friends and Diane Keaton and Meryl Streep's characters, they say little to nothing about it. Certainly his character questions it a lot though (and in the end decides its alright and they stay together ew)
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)The script is online. There are plenty of references
from his friends. I think Keaton even references Nabokov.
That's the point in fact. By keeping the issue
on the table (always in a joking manner, never really
judgmental), Allen can say he's aware of the problem
but ... the heart has its ways, or whatever cliche he
uses.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)was that Mariel's character had this great chance to go study theater in London. And his character tried to stop her, to make her stay with him for his own sexual gratification--who cares that she's a young person who should take advantage of adventures and opportunities while she can, the horny old goat wanted to keep fucking "his" teenager ... Disgusting.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)that whole scene showed just how infantile the character was.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)I thought were both very fascinating, with Margaux' beauty undeniable.
Hekate
(90,771 posts)Woody Allen's obsession with very young women in his movies, with himself as the ever-aging leading man, always did creep me out.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)And, her father molested Margaux and (other sister) Joan (nickname Muffet if you do reading on them) but not Mariel.
B2G
(9,766 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)Makes you believe them even less? How? And they are not just Mia's claims, but that of the child in question who continues to maintain that he molested her.
One could also make the argument that Woody was "grooming" Mariel when she was underage.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)life with both ephebophilia and pedophilia/incest. That's unlikely, isn't it?
And I don't believe Mia. I think she brainwashed her children, as their psychologist sibling has indicated......it's interesting to me that the licensed family therapist in the family simply doesn't believe them.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20783306,00.html
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)because he was waiting to pounce at 18, a real pathetic character, does not lead me to believe he waited to 18 in all cases.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Previn, and didn't even know Allen all that well until Farrow insisted Allen spend more time with her children. She was 19 or 21 when they started their adult relationship.
As for Farrow....look at her relationship with Sinatra before you cast stones.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)The idea that Allen was "grooming" Soon-Yi is without any basis. According to Farrow's own memoir Allen never had anything to do with Soon-Yi until she asked him to spend more time with her. By that time she was an adult. Allen, Farrow, and Soon-Yi are all in agreement with this. Anything beyond that is just an invention.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)There was no waiting till she was 18 because nothing happened between them. She refused his advances from the beginning, which started before she was of legal age.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)kcr
(15,318 posts)Uh huh. Sure.
She even states that she realized he had a crush on her.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)didn't act on them. So if you want to judge someone for their sexual feelings/fantasies, go right ahead.
There's a reason we criminalize ACTS, not FEELINGS.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He's a creep.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Or he is just that insecure as a man - not being able to challenge a woman on par with his age and experience. Either way I LOVE some of his movies...but find his actions creepy. AND YES, that is me judging another man trying to date a women more than half his age.
They say love knows no boundaries and that might be true. Dunno, lusting after a teenager at 40 just sounds creepier than hell.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Off topic here but - I always found it funny that a person can go off and die for their country at 18...but not drink beer!
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)The editor is a personal buddy with Mia and has been on her p.r. team for years