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wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 10:51 PM Apr 2015

Mariel Hemingway Says Woody Allen Tried to Seduce Her When She Was a Teenager



In Woody Allen’s 1979 comedy Manhattan, the filmmaker, then 44, dated a 17-year-old character played by Mariel Hemingway. The part earned Hemingway an Oscar nomination, and, according to the actress in a forthcoming memoir, also the unwanted romantic attention of Allen.

In Out Came the Sun, which will be released on April 7, Hemingway claims that Allen attempted to lure her to Paris once she turned 18—two years after she had filmed Manhattan. “Our relationship was platonic, but I started to see that he had a kind of crush on me, though I dismissed it as the kind of thing that seemed to happen any time middle-aged men got around young women,” writes Hemingway. The actress suggests that Allen attempted to act upon the crush by flying to her parents’ home in Idaho and inviting the teen to Europe.

The actress cautioned her parents “that I didn’t know what the [sleeping] arrangement was going to be [in Paris], that I wasn’t sure if I was even going to have my own room. Woody hadn’t said that. He hadn’t even hinted it. But I wanted them to put their foot down. They didn’t. They kept lightly encouraging me.”

Hemingway says that she woke up at night with the realization that “no one was going to get their own room. His plan, such as it was, involved being with me.” She says that she went into his guest room and woke him up asking, “I’m not going to get my own room, am I? I can’t go to Paris with you.” The actress says that Allen left Idaho the next morning.


http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/03/woody-allen-mariel-hemingway-manhattan

I look forward to getting her book. I highly recommend the documentary "Running From Crazy" about her, her family, and depression.

I had always suspected he made advances on Mariel. In Manhattan, no character mentions how odd/sick it is for a 40-something to date a teenager, nor do they mention age difference. Look for that if you watch the film.
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Mariel Hemingway Says Woody Allen Tried to Seduce Her When She Was a Teenager (Original Post) wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #1
Wow, what a horrible post. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #2
but this wasn't something like strangers at a club JI7 Apr 2015 #4
I watched "Manhattan" for the first time a couple years ago. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #7
Headline is a bit misleading. She was an adult. phleshdef Apr 2015 #5
Not like she was jail-bait or anything. He DID wait until she turned 18. Kind of like he did with... Hekate Apr 2015 #11
Except it wasn't his stepdaughter Major Nikon Apr 2015 #22
and they are still together... lame54 Apr 2015 #23
Is it any surprise they are still together? wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #37
"learning disabilities and a low IQ" Major Nikon Apr 2015 #42
She went to Columbia. She doesn't have a low IQ. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #43
It's more than distasteful given the opportunities for grooming. Heidi Apr 2015 #12
Still a teenager but of the age of consent. Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #17
It may have been legal but it's still creepy tularetom Apr 2015 #30
Well I said as much myself. phleshdef Apr 2015 #41
This is not a surprise. kwassa Apr 2015 #6
No defender of Allen here, but A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2015 #8
I should have clarified wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #13
To the contrary. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2015 #15
One thing that really pissed me off in the movie Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #19
That's something I liked about Allen---it wasn't necessary that you "liked" his character. I think msanthrope Apr 2015 #39
I always loved Margaux and Mariel, who closeupready Apr 2015 #9
Apparently Mariel had better sense than her parents. Hekate Apr 2015 #10
She seems very grounded wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #14
"I'm shocked", said no one anywhere. nt B2G Apr 2015 #16
Gross, but legal. Makes me believe Farrow's claims even less. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #18
Huh? wheniwasincongress Apr 2015 #21
Frankly, you'd have to make me believe that Woody Allen has managed to get through msanthrope Apr 2015 #26
he started grooming her prior to 18 just as he had the adopted daughter. seabeyond Apr 2015 #24
You do realize that Soon Yi was not his adopted daughter, right? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #27
nor did i say she was adopted by allen. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #35
Frankly, I don't understand why you used "adopted." She's the daughter of Farrow and msanthrope Apr 2015 #36
Allen never adopted Soon-Yi Major Nikon Apr 2015 #28
i did not say allen adopted her seabeyond Apr 2015 #34
Really? I think it makes her claims more believable. kcr Apr 2015 #25
She doesn't describe any underage advances. Describes it as "platonic." nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #29
Right. He had absolutely no feelings of attraction until she turned 18. kcr Apr 2015 #31
I'm sure he did have feelings of attraction. Adults sometimes do towards teens. Apparently, he msanthrope Apr 2015 #33
Yuck. cwydro Apr 2015 #20
Maybe Allen is truly Bananas. Rex Apr 2015 #32
It sounds gross to me. And not love. But, these are adults. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #38
Very true! 18 is legal enough to die for your country. Rex Apr 2015 #40
Misleading headline by VF (She was an 18yo adult), but no surprise Adenoid_Hynkel Apr 2015 #44

Response to wheniwasincongress (Original post)

JI7

(89,261 posts)
4. but this wasn't something like strangers at a club
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:55 PM
Apr 2015

the whole thing makes allen just look creepy as he has for a long time now. how he arranged things with someone he knew before she was a legal adult to try to be with her and her not being into him.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
3. I watched "Manhattan" for the first time a couple years ago.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:53 PM
Apr 2015

Any residual benefit-of-the-doubt feeling I had kept toward Allen disappeared instantly (and I used to be a fan). Disgusting movie, disgusting man.

Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #3)

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
5. Headline is a bit misleading. She was an adult.
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 11:56 PM
Apr 2015

I find a 44 year old going after an 18 year old in poor taste, but still, it should be made clear that she was legal.

Hekate

(90,771 posts)
11. Not like she was jail-bait or anything. He DID wait until she turned 18. Kind of like he did with...
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:46 AM
Apr 2015

...his stepdaughter? Ugh. Ew. Ick.

Feh. He's a dirty old man. A cautious dirty old man, but one nonetheless.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. Except it wasn't his stepdaughter
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:55 PM
Apr 2015

That rumor really needs to die, and "dirty old man" is not only meaningless, it's sexist and ageist.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
37. Is it any surprise they are still together?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

He is all she has known. She had a fucked up childhood with learning disabilities and a low IQ, and was taken advantage of sexually by a much older near-relative. Time my ass.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
42. "learning disabilities and a low IQ"
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 10:41 PM
Apr 2015

...and a masters degree from an Ivy League university.

"near-relative"

I'm not even sure what this means other than it's the same as a non-relative.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
12. It's more than distasteful given the opportunities for grooming.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:09 PM
Apr 2015

The power differential between this powerful man and his alleged victims says a great deal.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
8. No defender of Allen here, but
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:34 AM
Apr 2015

the movie is full of references to her youth, the age differences, how odd the relationship is because of her age, etc.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
13. I should have clarified
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

that amongst his friends and Diane Keaton and Meryl Streep's characters, they say little to nothing about it. Certainly his character questions it a lot though (and in the end decides its alright and they stay together ew)

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
15. To the contrary.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:50 PM
Apr 2015

The script is online. There are plenty of references
from his friends. I think Keaton even references Nabokov.

That's the point in fact. By keeping the issue
on the table (always in a joking manner, never really
judgmental), Allen can say he's aware of the problem
but ... the heart has its ways, or whatever cliche he
uses.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. One thing that really pissed me off in the movie
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 03:18 PM
Apr 2015

was that Mariel's character had this great chance to go study theater in London. And his character tried to stop her, to make her stay with him for his own sexual gratification--who cares that she's a young person who should take advantage of adventures and opportunities while she can, the horny old goat wanted to keep fucking "his" teenager ... Disgusting.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
39. That's something I liked about Allen---it wasn't necessary that you "liked" his character. I think
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:41 PM
Apr 2015

that whole scene showed just how infantile the character was.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
9. I always loved Margaux and Mariel, who
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:36 AM
Apr 2015

I thought were both very fascinating, with Margaux' beauty undeniable.

Hekate

(90,771 posts)
10. Apparently Mariel had better sense than her parents.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 12:43 AM
Apr 2015

Woody Allen's obsession with very young women in his movies, with himself as the ever-aging leading man, always did creep me out.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
14. She seems very grounded
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

And, her father molested Margaux and (other sister) Joan (nickname Muffet if you do reading on them) but not Mariel.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
21. Huh?
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:46 PM
Apr 2015

Makes you believe them even less? How? And they are not just Mia's claims, but that of the child in question who continues to maintain that he molested her.

One could also make the argument that Woody was "grooming" Mariel when she was underage.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. Frankly, you'd have to make me believe that Woody Allen has managed to get through
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:12 PM
Apr 2015

life with both ephebophilia and pedophilia/incest. That's unlikely, isn't it?

And I don't believe Mia. I think she brainwashed her children, as their psychologist sibling has indicated......it's interesting to me that the licensed family therapist in the family simply doesn't believe them.



http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20783306,00.html

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
24. he started grooming her prior to 18 just as he had the adopted daughter.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:59 PM
Apr 2015

because he was waiting to pounce at 18, a real pathetic character, does not lead me to believe he waited to 18 in all cases.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
36. Frankly, I don't understand why you used "adopted." She's the daughter of Farrow and
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

Previn, and didn't even know Allen all that well until Farrow insisted Allen spend more time with her children. She was 19 or 21 when they started their adult relationship.

As for Farrow....look at her relationship with Sinatra before you cast stones.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
28. Allen never adopted Soon-Yi
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:14 PM
Apr 2015

The idea that Allen was "grooming" Soon-Yi is without any basis. According to Farrow's own memoir Allen never had anything to do with Soon-Yi until she asked him to spend more time with her. By that time she was an adult. Allen, Farrow, and Soon-Yi are all in agreement with this. Anything beyond that is just an invention.

kcr

(15,318 posts)
25. Really? I think it makes her claims more believable.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:10 PM
Apr 2015

There was no waiting till she was 18 because nothing happened between them. She refused his advances from the beginning, which started before she was of legal age.

kcr

(15,318 posts)
31. Right. He had absolutely no feelings of attraction until she turned 18.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:24 PM
Apr 2015

Uh huh. Sure.

She even states that she realized he had a crush on her.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
33. I'm sure he did have feelings of attraction. Adults sometimes do towards teens. Apparently, he
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:32 PM
Apr 2015

didn't act on them. So if you want to judge someone for their sexual feelings/fantasies, go right ahead.

There's a reason we criminalize ACTS, not FEELINGS.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Maybe Allen is truly Bananas.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:31 PM
Apr 2015

Or he is just that insecure as a man - not being able to challenge a woman on par with his age and experience. Either way I LOVE some of his movies...but find his actions creepy. AND YES, that is me judging another man trying to date a women more than half his age.

They say love knows no boundaries and that might be true. Dunno, lusting after a teenager at 40 just sounds creepier than hell.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
40. Very true! 18 is legal enough to die for your country.
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 05:45 PM
Apr 2015

Off topic here but - I always found it funny that a person can go off and die for their country at 18...but not drink beer!

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
44. Misleading headline by VF (She was an 18yo adult), but no surprise
Thu Apr 9, 2015, 11:23 PM
Apr 2015

The editor is a personal buddy with Mia and has been on her p.r. team for years

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