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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:11 PM Apr 2015

Chattooga courthouse flies Confederate battle flag



SUMMERVILLE, Ga. — Robert E. Lee surrendered the Army of Northern Virginia to Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox 150 years ago this week, ending the Civil War and, with it, the Confederacy.

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/state-regional/chattooga-county-courthouse-flies-confederate-batt/nkrLj/

The rest is behind a paywall, but I don't think anything else needs to be said.
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Chattooga courthouse flies Confederate battle flag (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2015 OP
Ok, here we go again. cilla4progress Apr 2015 #1
Such a beautiful building...defaced. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #2
some true american... Takket Apr 2015 #3
Im gonna be so happy when this week is over cwydro Apr 2015 #4
No one cares? They care plenty. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #5
OK. cwydro Apr 2015 #7
don't hate the south. I hate that flag. Raine1967 Apr 2015 #6
How about those that just accept the racists as if it is OK. Hoyt Apr 2015 #8
It isn't about hating the South. It isn't about minimizing the role of the South in racist history . kwassa Apr 2015 #9
Again I will post this anecdote from my childhood. Which I lived. cwydro Apr 2015 #10
You don't know your own Southern school integration history. kwassa Apr 2015 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author DawgHouse Apr 2015 #13
Yes i do. cwydro Apr 2015 #15
Were you? That perspective is not reflected in your remarks. kwassa Apr 2015 #17
I was bused out of my junior high school twice in the 1970's. cwydro Apr 2015 #18
No. The sourh did not riot. bravenak Apr 2015 #32
I know about the Boston school integration mess. kwassa Apr 2015 #43
How many racially motivated lynchings and murders were in Boston? Now the South? TeamPooka Apr 2015 #37
I live in the south and it's no joke n2doc Apr 2015 #11
Ok darlin. cwydro Apr 2015 #16
They're PROUD to be LOSERS tabasco Apr 2015 #14
I love when posters resort to name calling. cwydro Apr 2015 #19
Well they did lose the war, didn't they? B Calm Apr 2015 #20
Oh I keep forgetting that all you are still fighting a war cwydro Apr 2015 #22
Hey, I am not the one flying the traitor flag! B Calm Apr 2015 #23
I'm sorry. cwydro Apr 2015 #26
Dear me, you need a cup of coffee! B Calm Apr 2015 #29
Ah, reading comprehension IS a problem. cwydro Apr 2015 #33
Go away! and drink some coffee! B Calm Apr 2015 #34
Nah, going for a run. cwydro Apr 2015 #38
It's going to be a gorgeous day in Indiana too. Friends are coming B Calm Apr 2015 #39
No, you're the one trying to justify it. SwankyXomb Apr 2015 #40
but somehow I'm the one with the reading comprehension problem! LOL B Calm Apr 2015 #41
Didn't they LOSE the Civil War? Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #21
Oh my. cwydro Apr 2015 #25
LOL Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #28
Failed alert! Reading this thread, I think I have a good idea of who alerted this post... Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #24
Oh dear. cwydro Apr 2015 #27
No tolerance for the Confederate Flag, a symbol of intolerance and slavery. Good. nt TeamPooka Apr 2015 #36
How ignorant. Flying that flag of racism and hate. bravenak Apr 2015 #30
Those fugging losers would better spend their time malaise Apr 2015 #31
four different time zones onethatcares Apr 2015 #35
Must-Not-Bash-South... lame54 Apr 2015 #42

Takket

(21,564 posts)
3. some true american...
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:17 PM
Apr 2015

should march up to the pole and tear that thing down and install the American flag in its rightful place.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
4. Im gonna be so happy when this week is over
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:28 PM
Apr 2015

and all the south-haters can go back into their burrows.

There are racists everywhere. Leave it alone and quit giving them the publicity they so desperately crave.

A confederate flag goes up...and the whole of DU pays attention. Without realizing...or perhaps despite realizing, that no one cares about these losers anymore.

The confederate flag is a joke here in the South. Those of you who don't live here...well you really don't know what you're talking about.

But that's ok. Bless your heart.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
5. No one cares? They care plenty.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:32 PM
Apr 2015

Someone attached the flag, got permission, raised the flag. I think they care more than you realize.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
7. OK.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:35 PM
Apr 2015

So sick of this division on DU.

I'm going to look into buying me a high horse. But damn. I am so short...

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
6. don't hate the south. I hate that flag.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:34 PM
Apr 2015

I have lived in the south since 2006, First Georgia and now Virginia.

That flag -- that flag is a symbol of hate imo.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. How about those that just accept the racists as if it is OK.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:45 PM
Apr 2015

There may be racists everywhere, but there is a special breed in the south.. There's a reason Republicans dominate governments in the South.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
9. It isn't about hating the South. It isn't about minimizing the role of the South in racist history .
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:46 PM
Apr 2015

which is what you are trying to do.

Do you really think the South is less racist than the rest of America, more racist, or exactly the same?

From what I read here on DU from many who live there, racist attitudes are still pervasive in the South.

I have never judged anyone based on where they are from, or thought one group more enlightened than another because of geography. The history of the South is different, however, from the history of the North in relation to slavery and discrimination and pure terrorism of it's black population, most of whom lived in the South. Trying to pretend there is no difference is simply ahistorical.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. Again I will post this anecdote from my childhood. Which I lived.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 08:53 PM
Apr 2015

I was involved in the forced busing pilot project. One was in Charlotte, NC (where I lived) and one was in Boston.

We integrated with very little problems here.

In Boston, (IN THE NORTH), the white thugs tried to surround and turn over school buses with little black children in them.

That DID NOT HAPPEN in the south.

I know y'all hate the truth, but there it is.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
12. You don't know your own Southern school integration history.
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 10:01 PM
Apr 2015

So bad Norman Rockwell did a painting about it.



The Little Rock Nine were a group of nine African American students enrolled in Little Rock Central High School in 1957. Their enrollment was followed by the Little Rock Crisis, in which the students were initially prevented from entering the racially segregated school by Orval Faubus, the Governor of Arkansas. They then attended after the intervention of President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

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Several segregationist councils threatened to hold protests at Central High and physically block the black students from entering the school. Governor Orval Faubus deployed the Arkansas National Guard to support the segregationists on September 4, 1957. The sight of a line of soldiers blocking out the students made national headlines and polarized the nation. Regarding the accompanying crowd, one of the nine students, Elizabeth Eckford, recalled:

They moved closer and closer. ... Somebody started yelling. ... I tried to see a friendly face somewhere in the crowd—someone who maybe could help. I looked into the face of an old woman and it seemed a kind face, but when I looked at her again, she spat on me.[6]

On September 9, the Little Rock School District issued a statement condemning the governor's deployment of soldiers to the school, and called for a citywide prayer service on September 12. Even President Dwight Eisenhower attempted to de-escalate the situation by summoning Faubus for a meeting, warning him not to defy the Supreme Court's ruling.[7]

Woodrow Wilson Mann, the mayor of Little Rock, asked President Eisenhower to send federal troops to enforce integration and protect the nine students. On September 24, the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army—without its black soldiers, who rejoined the division a month later—to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000-member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of the hands of Faubus.[8]









In the South most whites fled the public school systems and sent their children to private academies once integration took place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregation_academy

Segregation academies were or are private schools in the United States established in the mid-20th century to enable white parents to avoid having their children in desegregated public schools, which were mandated by the U.S. Supreme Court ruling Brown v. Board of Education (1954). It had determined that segregated public schools were unconstitutional, but because Brown did not apply to private schools, the founding of new private academies in the 1950s, '60s, and '70s was a way for whites to practice segregation.

While these schools were established chiefly in the Southern United States, private schools existed nationwide that were heavily segregated in practice, though perhaps not intentionally.

Since the late 20th century, as social patterns in United States have changed, many of these private schools began to admit minority students; others have ceased operations. Still others, in poor, majority-black regions such as the Mississippi Delta, continue to operate with few, if any, black students.

Response to kwassa (Reply #12)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. I was bused out of my junior high school twice in the 1970's.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:50 AM
Apr 2015

No idea how old you are, but I don't think you have a clue as to forced busing.

I was very lucky not to have it happen to me in high school. It happened to many of my friends, both black and white.

But we did not riot as they did in the "oh so unprejudiced north."

You have no effing idea.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
32. No. The sourh did not riot.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:22 AM
Apr 2015

They used fire hoses on protestors along with billy clubs and police dogs. They bombed churches. They assasinated Black leaders. They killed children in church. They used the KKK to terrorize us and murder us. They lynched us. They raped us. They stole our lives, children and dignity. No riot, but they did much much worse. My family comes from down that way. Many still reside there.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
43. I know about the Boston school integration mess.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 11:28 AM
Apr 2015

A black friend of mine started her first teaching job in Boston that year.

You, however, are ignoring large chunks of Southern history. Infamous history.

TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
37. How many racially motivated lynchings and murders were in Boston? Now the South?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:00 AM
Apr 2015

There's racism everywhere but it's perceived as being institutionalized and on steroids in the American South.
Until the folks that live there change it by changing their laws and traditions, this perception will remain.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
11. I live in the south and it's no joke
Fri Apr 10, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

Take your southern superiority complex and put it somewhere dark and stinky.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Oh I keep forgetting that all you are still fighting a war
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:00 AM
Apr 2015

that ended 150 years ago.

So sad.

I've learned a lot about Duers lately.

Why don't you go count the puke Tea Partiers from the north dearie?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
26. I'm sorry.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:11 AM
Apr 2015

Did I state somewhere that I flew that flag?

Have you confused me with another?

Dear me. Is reading comprehension a regular problem for you?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
38. Nah, going for a run.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:13 AM
Apr 2015

Then out on the beach.

I'll pick up some shells for you deprived northerners!

It's going to be another gorgeous day here in the south.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
39. It's going to be a gorgeous day in Indiana too. Friends are coming
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 07:41 AM
Apr 2015

over to fish in my farm pond. Later in the day I will build a fire and we will roast weiners and drink ice cold beer.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. Didn't they LOSE the Civil War?
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 05:59 AM
Apr 2015

Doesn't that make them LOSERS?

How is that name calling?

LOL.

Keep trying.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. Oh my.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:10 AM
Apr 2015

I am so sorry for you that live in the hellhole of the north that obviously gives you such misery, indigestion, and despair. Do your teeth hurt too?

How many Tea Partiers live up there in the stinkhole of the north? I'm not fighting the Civil War as so many of you are on this board.

Today, I'll head onto the beach on Edisto Island. I'll smell the salt air and look at the beauty of the Carolina low-country all around me in my kayak. The sun will be warm here today; the birds are already chirping. You smell your exhaust and pollution up there...perhaps that is what gives you all such a crappy outlook on life. I'm going to enjoy the beach. Ah, song of the south.

I truly feel sorry for all of you with such hate in your hearts. I'm so lucky to have been born here of English parents. They also disliked the north when they came to this country. They found the people there incredibly ignorant.

Thread now trashed.

Y'all have a great day now, ya hear?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
24. Failed alert! Reading this thread, I think I have a good idea of who alerted this post...
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:08 AM
Apr 2015


On Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:51 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

They're PROUD to be LOSERS
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6487927

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

I think this is over the top and insulting to those on DU from the South. Surely, there is a limit to these insults.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Apr 11, 2015, 03:55 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Fuck the South.
They keep this country in the fucking dark ages.
Suck it.

Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Fuck Confederate trash.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: None of this south bashing is helpful or appropriate on a progressive message board.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Grow some skin!
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I think people who proudly fly the confederate flag are racist losers also....
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
27. Oh dear.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:12 AM
Apr 2015

More and more south hating.

You truly sound like an unhappy person. I do hope it gets better for you.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
30. How ignorant. Flying that flag of racism and hate.
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:18 AM
Apr 2015

That flag is a symbol mean to intimidate black people. I think it's about time to give up on the treason flag and join the rest of America and fly the American flag at all times. Only racists condone raising tha flag that terrorizes the black population.

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