I don't get hillary's campaign roll out at all.

[cali]

She's been widely criticized for being unapproachable and elitist. Why choose to kick off your campaign with a tweet and a film on social media from a jet, 30,000 feet over "flyover" country?

It just doesn't project what I think she needs to project.

[boston bean]

1. Maybe she should shoot for a revival like scene, a la Ted Cruz. nt

[cali]

6. gee, is anyone suggesting Liberty University for her? No.

do you think this is a good plan for her campaign roll out? Sorry, I don't. How about a rally in Iowa? Or even a small gathering in Iowa in front of supporters, concurrent with tweets and a film?

[boston bean]

8. I have no doubt that no matter how she does it, it will garner "criticism". nt

[cali]

12. that's not an answer. but then you are not willing to look at any criticism of hillary

at all. I've always felt that sort of "support" was very unhealthy.

[boston bean]

13. It was a statement designed to convey a point.. I guess an answer.

You can think all you want that your "criticism" is the most important thing in the world.

Others can think differently.

[FarPoint]

37. Knowing that fact....

That criticism always follows...has been factored into the campaign plan...it's a known variable/factor. Hillary can navigate criticism better than any soul on this earth I believe.

[boston bean]

38. And it drives some just crazy! Republicans won't know what hits them! nt

[FarPoint]

42. Exactly....

They always under estimate Hillary Clinton...always. They believe their own false rhetoric....fine with me if they do as it will be to our advantage.

[still_one]

54. I agree, damn if you do, and damn if you don't

[H2O Man]

66. A pattern emerges .....

every time you post, a shadow follows.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. If this is what she has done then

I see a lot of political cartoons in the making.

[cali]

10. yes, it's what's been announced. And yeah, the same thought about political cartoons

occurred to me.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. I don't care how she does it.

The point is, she's officially in the race, and I'd happily vote for a woman as the next president of the United States.

If you don't like her or her views, you can vote for someone else.

(Good luck with what the GOP would ever offer )

[cali]

7. If you want her to win, you damn well should care how she launches and runs her campaign.

duh.

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. And we will see how she runs it, won't we?

duh x 2

[treestar]

71. The campaign has gotten so long now

the election is in 19 months. My sister in law had two babies within that time.

by the time of the election the roll out will be long forgotten.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. So voting against her in the primaries is OK with you?

I sure hope so because (odds are) that is what I am going to do.

If she wins the nomination she has my vote, but she needs to earn the nomination. A coronation isn't good for anyone.

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. Vote for anyone you want.

Let's see who her competition is.

[amandabeech]

63. Yes, a coronation isn't good. It would allow her to lean back and not work for evey vote.

She'll be working plenty if she defeats whichever pubbie bozo wins their nomination.

I just wish that she would do the speech thing and launch her social media campaign immediately thereafter.

[RealityAdvocate]

4. She is and always has been out of touch.

We are in serious trouble. She's unelectable.

[leftofcool]

15. Really? 86% of Democrats support her.

[RealityAdvocate]

35. We will see, won't we?

[Motown_Johnny]

5. The most anti-climatic announcement in Presidential history needs a hook.

It isn't like everyone has know for years, and even decades, that she was going to run.


I guess she is trying to look Presidential. Unfortunately she may end up looking like this....

[brooklynite]

16. Because she'll be flying to Iowa where she definitely WILL be accessible...

The announcement is a formality. If she did it at a rally of 10,000 people, she'd be visible, but not accessible either.

[cali]

18. i hope so. And I hope she won't keep the press out

or not take questions. I'd like to see her unscripted.

[leftofcool]

17. Those who don't like Hillary will level criticism no matter what she does.

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. ^^^This sums it up perfectly^^^

[tridim]

22. Yes, people will choose candidates to support and candidates to criticize.

Democracy rocks!

[L0oniX]

23. ...and those that love her will never see any wrong.

[treestar]

69. Of course they support her so they will spin it to her advantage

Is there something wrong with that?

[JoePhilly]

47. Even when she hasn't done it yet.

[treestar]

68. Many people here have set themselves up

There are several posters we know were never going to like Hillary's roll out. Of course. this is the first one.

I predict they won't find Hillary to do a single thing right. The logo and bumperstickers will be wrong.

Being a woman I bet we will find that they criticize her dress.

[BeyondGeography]

19. She shoulda just had a few, slammed both hands on the bar and, said, dammit, I'm running

Or something.

[boston bean]

24. LOL, at a bowling alley!

[leftofcool]

26. Perfect! And the bowling pins could have had the faces of GOP potentials on them.

[boston bean]

36. And if she didn't get a strike and knock all them little pin heads down..

well... the "thinkers" errrrr "criticizers" would have demanded she get out of the race!

She can't even bowl a strike, they said... You trust her to run a country... what about the 99% percent who demand she get a strike!

[L0oniX]

21. Nothing says elite 1% like a candidates campaign film on social media from a jet

[darkangel218]

53. +1000

[oberliner]

25. How would you have done it?

If you could've designed Hillary's campaign roll out, what would it look like?

[boston bean]

27. A small gathering of supporters in Iowa, with a full press conference aftwards...

You know... how most people enter a presidential race..... LOL

[cali]

29. I think I would take chance and have her appear

at fairly small gathering of supporters- outside if the weather permitted and no more than a couple of hundred.

[oberliner]

46. I'd be on board with that approach too

However, I do think if she did something like that people would accuse her of pandering and trying to appear folksy and being a phony and all the rest of it.

I think she is kind of in a lose-lose situation. Releasing a video on social media, where she can control the message and get it out there relatively spin-free (as much as that is possible, which is not much) seems like as good a roll-out as any.

I can understand the sentiments behind this quote:

“We just wanted to get this thing over with and get on with it,” a soon-to-be-Clinton staffer said on condition of anonymity.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clinton-2016-election-launch-sunday-116843.html#ixzz3X6WA3iHr

[Ichingcarpenter]

32. I think Obama did a great roll out in 2007 in Springfield

And had a great speech prepared on that cold winters day when he declared his candidacy before humans at ground level.


Full Speech:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/us/politics/11obama-text.html?pagewanted=2




But hey ......... whatever gets you through the night.

[oberliner]

50. You may be interested in this

How people responded to Obama’s presidential bid in 2007

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/02/10/how-people-responded-to-obamas-presidential-bid-in-2007/

Some quotes from reporters at the time - really fascinating, I think!

[frazzled]

64. That's just amazing to read

and an object lesson in why you should never take anything a pundit / editorial writer / so-called journalist says very seriously at all. Yoy, how laughably wrong they all sound in retrospect.

(PS: M. Taibbi: Rachmaninoff didn't improvise.

Regardless of the music, Rachmaninoff always planned his performances carefully. He based his interpretations on the theory that each piece of music has a "culminating point." Regardless of where that point was or at which dynamic within that piece, the performer had to know how to approach it with absolute calculation and precision; otherwise, the whole construction of the piece could crumble and the piece could become disjointed. This was a practice he learned from Russian bass Feodor Chaliapin, a staunch friend.[60] Paradoxically, Rachmaninoff often sounded like he was improvising, though he actually was not. While his interpretations were mosaics of tiny details, when those mosaics came together in performance, they might, according to the tempo of the piece being played, fly past at great speed, giving the impression of instant thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Rachmaninoff#Compositional_style

[oberliner]

67. I was amused by the reference to "MySpace friends"

Incredible how something has gone from being cutting edge to obsolete in such a short amount of time.

[DonViejo]

28. Hillary could announce her candidacy in front of 1 million people in Times Square...

and you would have the same OP posted here this a.m.; "I don't get hillary's campaign roll out at all."

[cali]

31. wrong. I defend her here too.

[DonViejo]

34. I have never seen you defend Hillary "on here" cali,...

that doesn't mean you haven't defended her, just that I've never seen it. From the comments above it looks like a lot of DU'ers might agree with me; your reputation precedes you and is well established.

[cali]

39. here, my dear.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026492823

I've actually defended her quite a bit. Do I criticize her more than defend her? Yes. So what?

[DonViejo]

43. My dear...

I said, "it doesn't mean you haven't defended her, I just haven't seen it." Also, my dear, you have an interesting way of deflecting; I still maintain, regardless of how Sec'y Clinton announced her candidacy, you'd have an OP entitled, "I don't get hillary's campaign roll out at all." Your reputation does precede you, whether you like it or not. Your disdain for Sec'y Clinton even extends to your inability to capitalize the first letter of her name; "I don't get hillary's campaign roll out at all."

[cali]

44. lol

I didn't deflect. I did give an alternative that I think would be better, honeybunch. And I'm yes, lazy about caps. has nothing to do with dissing her.

I don't have disdain for her personally. I do for her as a politician. Yes, there's a distinction.

but whatever, donny.

[DonViejo]

48. ....

If you knew the extent and depth of the insult you just threw at me, by referring to me as "donny," I think you might be begging for my forgiveness. But, then again, given your reputation, probably not, insults and condescension are your forte. Obviously you're not interested in an honest discussion so, have a great day.

[Marr]

55. The only other people I've seen people complain that a figure's name wasn't capitalized were

Christian fundamentalists discussing god.

[DonViejo]

57. How about that?...

I just shattered your stereotype! But please accept my sincere thanks for running in to defend cali.

[treestar]

73. therefore the next 19 months of criticism

are not going to pack much punch.

[Logical]

59. Bullshit, the OP is correct. Plays into her weakness. nt

[DonViejo]

62. Thank you so much...

for sharing your highly intelligent and well thought out words with me. Hope you have a really awesome, awesome day!

[Logical]

72. I tried to make it "highly intelligent and well thought out" as your post. nt

[DonViejo]

74. Experience counts!

Chew on that comment for a few days,

[treestar]

70. +1

Doesn't matter what form it takes.

[bigtree]

30. she's going to follow it with a multi-state tour, so meh, on the style of the announcement

C-SPAN Politics ‏@cspanPolitics 54m54 minutes ago

. @HillaryClinton's 1st 2007 Presidential campaign event was in Iowa,7 days after the launch http://www.c-span.org/video/?196368-1/clinton-campaign-event …

[KoKo]

33. Everyone knew she was running...so why make a big deal?

She'd be on the Sunday shows and, instead, she wants to take her message to the people and not the media?

Someone posted her tactic is to be "No Drama, Hillary?"

[cali]

40. optics matter in politics.

[boston bean]

41. Your aversion to it may just be a generational thing.... nt

[cali]

45. that's possible.n/t

[elfin]

56. Then I must be of the same "generation"....

Also the same generation of my closest diehard Dem friends. While we want her to win and win big enough to turn the Senate, we are leery of her in many ways already commented on in other threads.

The group I speak of met for dinner last week and no one is crazy about her. We split between her and Obama in '08. We are all in retirement years, female and should be her biggest supporters. We were surprised amongst ourselves that we had each come to the same worried feeling independently.

We each felt we would see it the same way for a male candidate.

Make no mistake, we will vote for her, and probably even in the primary season, but Cali has legitimate observations IMO.

[DCBob]

49. She's also criticized for being too old or old fashion.

This type of 'high tech' launch might help to counter that.

[beachbum bob]

51. I disagree, its great opening round.........

today is all about social media.....this will turn into a ground swell

my hopes is for an early announce of elizabeth warren as her VP id she wins the nomination


do it now, bridge the base and save the money and energy for the fall campaign to retain the whitehouse and take back congress from conservatives once and for all


let the gop clown car do what its gonna do

[KingCharlemagne]

58. I think she's 'damned if she does, damned if she doesn't'. I see what you're saying, but you know

the press would also crucify her as a 'phony' if she tried to do it in front of a town hall or small gathering. I'm giving her and her staff a pass on the roll-out, as there was no way to launch without triggering the haters out there. (Not saying that you're a 'hater,' but instead that the misogynists and reactionaries out there will stop at nothing to try to damage her prospects.)

Full disclsure: Of those who have announced or expressed interest in running, my current preferences are as follows:

1) Bernie Sanders
2) Hillary Clinton
3) Vice President Biden

I'd like to put Governor O'Malley into the mix, but I know very little about him and his positions. He's said a lot of nice things but I'm fairly unfamiliar with his record right now.

[bigwillq]

60. She should have announced from the Greenwich Boys and Girls Club.

and she should say: "I am taking my talents to the White House" and then drop the mic.

[ScreamingMeemie]

65. ...

[Autumn]

61. Haven't seen any of it but stop and think cali. When has she not been running?

She's been running since Bill left the White House.