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Robert Reich tells Romney how to get to 4% unemployment... (Original Post) Richardo May 2012 OP
Exactly!! Tennessee Gal May 2012 #1
This point ProSense May 2012 #2
Love it! goclark May 2012 #3
to Mr Reich... handmade34 May 2012 #4
Served, pwn*d and owned, all in a single coalition_unwilling May 2012 #5
might as well tell Romney because Obama just ignored him nt msongs May 2012 #6
Yeah, Romney ProSense May 2012 #8
+ hay rick May 2012 #9
Which one of the two has been talking up and trying to raise taxes on the wealthy? bhikkhu May 2012 #10
Talk is cheap. progressoid May 2012 #27
A "president romney" may do exactly what he says he will do, if given the chance bhikkhu May 2012 #28
I don't doubt he would. progressoid May 2012 #39
At least Obama show some respect for us Blecht May 2012 #42
Isn't raising taxes on the wealthy what Obama's been trying to do all this time Jamaal510 May 2012 #12
True dat gratuitous May 2012 #13
Bullshit. Reich doesn't understand how real governing happens MannyGoldstein May 2012 #14
Actually, he ProSense May 2012 #15
Your snarkometer needs to go to the shop.. Fumesucker May 2012 #19
Yeah, your snarkometer is busted, please see a mechanic. FogerRox May 2012 #20
Wow, ProSense May 2012 #22
LOL. Thanks, ProSense. You seem to be a lonely voice of reason today. SunSeeker May 2012 #36
Manny knows Reich was a member of the Clinton Administration - TBF May 2012 #43
Cabinet Post? tommyshi May 2012 #49
Since they both ignore him, doesn't that mean it is a wash? Dragonfli May 2012 #16
Reich would have been a great choice to head Obama's jobs council. pa28 May 2012 #18
Thank You! You Speak for Me, Too Demeter May 2012 #37
Romney's setting sail on the Ship of Fail. n/t Bolo Boffin May 2012 #7
The word. geckosfeet May 2012 #11
AND STOP SUBSIDIZING OFFSHORING Skittles May 2012 #17
but that's soshilizm! NoMoreWarNow May 2012 #21
See? Socialism WORKS! MNBrewer May 2012 #30
Unfortunately in this country socialism TBF May 2012 #44
Quaint idea. Sounds like it may work. n/t davidwparker May 2012 #23
Aw yeah! Give 'em hell, Robert Reich! KeepItReal May 2012 #24
So there! AlbertCat May 2012 #25
Ha... Aviation Pro May 2012 #26
Yes, simple, and THEY say, simply, NO!!! elleng May 2012 #29
When I see a graph of unemployment, I see it go down in times of bubbles dkf May 2012 #31
We need a space bubble. RevStPatrick May 2012 #32
Yes, that is/was the Alan Greenspan model for the economy in a nutshell. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #33
+1 cyberswede May 2012 #45
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #34
Addendum ... scribble May 2012 #35
I love that sawed off little bastard.... n/t IamK May 2012 #38
!! Richardo May 2012 #41
I miss those days. caveat_imperator May 2012 #40
investment in your people and infrastructure and the U.S. will be rewarded big time for a long time infrared May 2012 #46
Don't forget the cousin of MIC: PIC Capn Sunshine May 2012 #47
I though Obama was president? montanto May 2012 #48

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. This point
Sat May 5, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012

from the Think Progress piece is a keeper:

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Romney’s comments also don’t reflect well on Ronald Reagan, who Romney now says he wants to emulate. The average yearly unemployment rate exceeded 7% for most of his presidency and never dropped below 5.5%.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/05/478702/clinton-labor-secretary-romney-4-unemployment/


 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
5. Served, pwn*d and owned, all in a single
Sat May 5, 2012, 09:09 PM
May 2012

Tweet (I'm guessing). Saw Reich speak at Occupy Los Angeles (via Livestream). It was an awesome presentation and he was in a presentation that included some other heavyweights like Michael Hudson (himself streaming from Germany to OLA).

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Yeah, Romney
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

will listen. He might even appoint Reich as Labor Secretary and launch a new deal program.

That'll teach Obama!



bhikkhu

(10,732 posts)
10. Which one of the two has been talking up and trying to raise taxes on the wealthy?
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:40 PM
May 2012

Romney is still pumping the notion that giving the "job-creators" more tax breaks is how to create jobs. The one problem with that is that the "job creators" already own the vast majority of the country's material wealth; how much more do they need before they start creating those jobs?

bhikkhu

(10,732 posts)
28. A "president romney" may do exactly what he says he will do, if given the chance
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:31 PM
May 2012

Playing chicken with nutjobs is a lousy strategy, as bad as hamstringing the president's agenda by giving the house and senate to the repugs as an expression of discontent in 2010 was.

progressoid

(50,143 posts)
39. I don't doubt he would.
Sun May 6, 2012, 06:38 PM
May 2012

But our side had ample opportunity to do something about it, and we didn't for a number of reasons. I'm not just singling out the White House, congress also did nothing.

I don't think the repugs' threats of filibuster or the President being hamstrung was as big an issue as everyone makes it out to be. Frankly, most in the DC (including our side) don't seem too interested in fighting for us.

It's election time so the rhetoric is again ramped up to woo voters. But once the elections are over, I ain't holding my breath waiting for them to follow through on their promises...

...fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.


Blecht

(3,803 posts)
42. At least Obama show some respect for us
Mon May 7, 2012, 12:42 AM
May 2012

He thinks we're worth lying to in order to get our votes.

And I'll vote for somebody who pretends to be progressive over somebody who pretends to be conservative any time.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
12. Isn't raising taxes on the wealthy what Obama's been trying to do all this time
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:42 PM
May 2012

or am I just crazy?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. True dat
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:47 PM
May 2012

I look for us to be favored soon by the Obama uber alles brigade with some nitwittery about Romney listening better, as if that was the point of your post. But I'm sure it will be regarded as an irrefutable bon mot by some.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
14. Bullshit. Reich doesn't understand how real governing happens
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:49 PM
May 2012

If Reich ever had, say, a Cabinet position, he'd understand how we need to be pragmatic and do whatever the Republicans want.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. Actually, he
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:11 AM
May 2012

"Bullshit. Reich doesn't understand how real governing happens

If Reich ever had, say, a Cabinet position, he'd understand how we need to be pragmatic and do whatever the Republicans want."

...does. He was in the Clinton administration: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002227973

If he had a cabinet position, he'd likely support Obama's trade deals.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
22. Wow,
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:48 AM
May 2012

who called the "snarkometer" police. Two of you showed up.

Reich was a member of the Clinton administration and does support trade.

I'll work on the "snarkometer," officers.



SunSeeker

(52,214 posts)
36. LOL. Thanks, ProSense. You seem to be a lonely voice of reason today.
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:11 PM
May 2012

What is up with all the Obama haters today? It seems their response to Skinner's Friday post is to do even more of what Skinner said not to do: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=1399

And, judging by the unhidden attacks on Obama (particularly on the pot threads!), the general election Terms of Service are not being enforced.

I'm glad you're here to rebut with the facts. Your service is appreciated.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
18. Reich would have been a great choice to head Obama's jobs council.
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:15 AM
May 2012

Unfortunately the CEO of General Electric got the nod.

Maybe he's the one who told President Obama that America needs to import (cheap) engineering talent. Something about not enough qualified people here to fill all the available jobs.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
37. Thank You! You Speak for Me, Too
Sun May 6, 2012, 03:26 PM
May 2012

Who will tell the President that his slip is showing?

In fact, this is one of the least 99%-Reality-based administrations and campaigns the Democrats have ever had to endure. I'm tired of voting while holding my nose. We have to Occupy our own party, first, if we really want change and hope.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
21. but that's soshilizm!
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:24 AM
May 2012

and the rich work hard for their money! Americans are just lazy!
/typical conservative

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
31. When I see a graph of unemployment, I see it go down in times of bubbles
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:30 PM
May 2012

Then the bubble pops and unemployment shoots up.

The solution to our problems is obvious...we need another bubble. Hey maybe it can be a government hiring bubble and then when the cost of money gets too expensive the Feds can lay people off in droves and cause another spike in unemployment.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,220 posts)
33. Yes, that is/was the Alan Greenspan model for the economy in a nutshell.
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:54 PM
May 2012

Fortunately, he recognized his errors years ago.

I am sure the knowledge of why Supply Side economics (and bubble promotion) is a failure will filter down to everyone else in time.

scribble

(189 posts)
35. Addendum ...
Sun May 6, 2012, 02:50 PM
May 2012

A manufacturing job creates around three service jobs over the course of a year to fifteen months.

1) An employee working on a factory floor spends most of his/her paycheck on goods or services that adds a bit more than one job to the economy in a year.

2) A factory employee creates new goods for his/her employer, who sells those goods for a bit more than double what they cost to manufacture. The warehousing, shipping, marketing, sale and use of these new goods adds almost two new jobs to the economy in a year.

In contrast, a service job creates two new jobs every three years or so.

It therefore makes sense for Obama to focus stimulus money on creating manufacturing jobs. We still need service jobs, but we can partially rely on manufacturing job creation to help us out.

We don't need to bring back unskilled jobs from China. We can create skilled jobs designing and building complex products.


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caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
40. I miss those days.
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:36 PM
May 2012

Still can't believe the media fooled enough people into thinking ending these policies was a good idea. bush shouldn't have even received 30%.

infrared

(10 posts)
46. investment in your people and infrastructure and the U.S. will be rewarded big time for a long time
Mon May 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
May 2012

But others would rather invest in the industrial military complex only.

After all look what we got in the past.

Two Wars = Cheney + White House + Bush + Halliburton + industrial military complex + stupidity

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
47. Don't forget the cousin of MIC: PIC
Mon May 7, 2012, 04:12 PM
May 2012

The Prison Industrial Complex assures there will be continuing presure to criminalize indebtedness and thoughtcrime

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