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Tom Cotton: Obama's Iran Deal May Lead to Nuclear War
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Goldberg: Did the criticism about your open letter to Ayatollah Khamenei resonate with you at all? The idea that you are telling a foreign adversary, Don't trust in our presidentthe man who's making our foreign policy? Did that cause you to ask yourself, 'Maybe I am undermining the executive branch?'
Cotton: No, in part because the letter didn't say that. The letter simply stated indisputable facts of constitutional law, and Iran's leaders needed to hear that message, and they needed to hear it from us. What we did was certainly more measured than what past senators had done, in conciliating with people like Manuel Noriega, Bashar al-Assad, or Leonid Brezhnev. The difference is we openly stood up to a dictator, and in a lot of those past precedents, Senate Democrats privately conciliated and coddled dictators.
Goldberg: Why do you think your general outlook is so disparaged, even in parts of the Republican Party? I don't mean the Rand Paul wing, even. I mean, I hear from Republicans who are wary of going down a path that would lead to another Middle East war. Or let me put this another way: Do you believe that the country is tired of these sorts of wars and of this kind of engagement?
Cotton: I think that Americansand this is not true just now, but over the yearsare not fundamentally opposed to war. They're fundamentally opposed to losing wars. And that's one reason why President Bush lost support for the Iraq War in the period of 2004 to 2006.
Goldberg: Do we have to win wars quickly to make them popular?
Cotton: I don't think we have to win quickly necessarily, but we have to win. By the time the 2008 election arrived, we had finally won the Iraq War, or we were on the road to winning it. We won starting in the summer of 2007 going into late 2011. Had President Obama, for instance, accepted our commanders' recommendations to keep a small residual force in Iraq, I think the country would have supported that decision. Also, the predictions of so many at the time have now proven correctthat there was a chance that Iraq, absent American forces, would be destabilized, and ultimately now we may end up with more troops in Iraq at the end of this president's tenure than we would have if he had just accepted his commanders' recommendations in 2011 to keep a residual force in place.
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Much more craziness from this dangerous fuckwad:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/04/tom-cotton-obama-iran-deal-may-lead-to-nuclear-war/390327/
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)it did to MCarthy.
A maniac is bad enough, but a driven one is a nightmare.
cali
(114,904 posts)but this guy is a horror show.
avebury
(10,952 posts)This guy is bat sh*t crazy.
You can never win a war against terror because it is not a country it is an idea that is followed by a group of people who are fluid in location. You might win a short term victory but there is no end in sight if you are determined to only used military options. War on terror is the living embodiment of the hydra. You chop off a head and another will rise up.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)What a freak. Yes, scary as hell.
cali
(114,904 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)parties win elections. The R's poured an enormous amount of money into Arkansas to win the Senate seat an win the state offices.
cali
(114,904 posts)Do you actually think Hillary Clinton has a chance in Arkansas? She does not.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)for fielding weak candidates and pushing out candidates like Bill Halter who could have made a difference.
And as much as I don't like her, Hillary is probably an even bet in Arkansas.
The state is currently red, but it will still vote for favorite sons-- or daughters.
cali
(114,904 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)that would make such a race competitive.
And I am saying that as someone who doesn't particularly like Hillary.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Moreover, I don't see a "compelling case," but rather a simplistic extrapolation of numerical party trends through 2014. He seems to treat HRC as a generic Democratic candidate and does not discuss the Clintons' Arkansas legacy and personal contacts throughout the state, which will surely be a factor outside a numerical model. Here is a discussion of this question among people who actually live there:
http://www.nwaonline.com/news/2015/apr/13/friends-foes-react-to-clinton-s-entry-2/
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)The man is very very extreme
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I voted for Pryor, as much good as that did.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Fuck that! I hate this Chickenhawk Motherfucker!
cali
(114,904 posts)In May 2006, one year and 4 months after enlistement and subsequent officer training, 2LT Cotton deployed to Baghdad as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom as a platoon leader with the 101st Airborne Division. In Iraq, 2LT Cotton was responsible for a 41-man air assault infantry platoon in the 506th Infantry Regiment,[20] who planned and performed daily combat patrols.[14]
In December 2006, Cotton was promoted to 1st Lieutenant after nearly two years as 2LT. After the completion of his first 6 month deployment 1LT Cotton did not return to deployment active combat, instead became a member of the prestigious 3rd US Infantry Regiment's The Old Guard at Arlington National Cemetary; again as a platoon leader.[21] After nearly two years ceremonial duties, 1LT Cotton was allowed to return to his professed passion: active duty deployment.
In October 2008, 1LT Cotton deployed to eastern Afghanistan. 1LT Cotton was stationed within the Regional Command East at its Gamberi Forward operating base located in one of the command's fourteen province locations, Laghman Province. The overall mission at 1LT Cotton's duty station - the Gamberi FOB from April 2008 to June 2009, during Operation Enduring Freedom IX - included military logistics, civil reconstruction engineering, government organization, and training from a Joint Task Force. The Joint Task Force at Gamberi FOB included Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (GIRoA), the 101st Airborne Division, NATO, International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), Interagency Partners, and CJTF-101/Regional Command East Forces. These joint forces secured the citizenry governance, and helped reconstruct a sutainable economy in order to extend Afghanistan (GIRoA) authority as the legitimate government of the Afghan people.[22][23][24] According to Cotton's biography, he stated his assigned duty was as a military logistics officer of a Provincial Reconstruction Team, where he also helped plan logistical operations for counter-insurgency.[3][25] Cotton's eleven-month deployment to Gamberi FOB in Laghan province ended when he returned from Afghanistan on July 20, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cotton#Military_service
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)And that makes him a very dangerous man. People will actually listen to him for that very reason.
The man is delusional.
cali
(114,904 posts)The unfavorable comparison he makes of President Obama to Neville Chamberlin and his repeated comparisons of Iran to Nazi Germany are insane- not to mention his nutty crap about how an agreement would lead to nuclear war.
Bad news. Really bad news.
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)... and he was subjected to the most disgusting attacks I can remember.
This clown's credibility isn't enhanced by his experience.
Crazy motherfuckers can have combat experience, too.
trumad
(41,692 posts)This makes it even worse.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Tom Cotton is a Far Right Reactionary drunk on power.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)like war? We look forward to sending our sons and daughters to foreign lands to die or become horribly injured? He thinks that what we
want is to glorify war and win at any cost??
Does he think he can get rich like Cheney from wars or is he just totally insane???
2naSalit
(86,586 posts)he has been guaranteed wealth for his lip service to the MIC. A political mercenary if you will.
If these idiots succeed in scuttling the Iran deal, the Democrats have to move immediately to
reinstate the draft. The only way we can keep the war mongers in the ruling class in check is to make certain that EVERYONE has skin in the game. Military Service Draft- No college deferments.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Washington does not care one bit about protests any more - the police have been militarized. Citizens United is ensuring that they won't have to worry about donations.
So, how, exactly, would the draft keep warmongers in check? The years in between elections are a long time to watch that "skin in the game" being killed. For nothing.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)We no more need the like of Tom Cotton than Greg Stillson. The problem is only one of them is a fictional character while the other is an actual breathing threat to peace and the lives of soldiers and innocent civilians.
cali
(114,904 posts)for a way to describe how he creeps me out in an almost otherworldly way. That's a rough but good comparison.
turbinetree
(24,695 posts)what a disgrace and his knowing act of disgrace to openly send a letter to a foreign government---the questioner should have asked you are being rightfully looked at with your other 47 co-conspirators as traitors don't you think you all should resign and don't let the proverbial door hit you in the a****.
Your party just for history sake had two mind you civilians running for the presidency in 1968 and 1979 making deals with foreign governments Nixon and Reagan that is called treason and I don't think Johnson and Carter where coddling with anyone like your party does
And oh, by the way since you like to be a good old boy christians lets bring back the draft since that is all you think about is a war with the cotton between your ears.
And lets really tell everyone how you got into office it was not ideas but a U.S. Supreme court majority of right wingers that said that money is free speech and you are just as corrupt as the next hypocrite that takes money to buy an election
You are truly dangerous, you really are, right along with your 47 fellow traitors jerk*****f
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)Sometimes, I really want to go put my head in the sand and ignore what's going on in the world...if only for my own sanity.
yellowwoodII
(616 posts)If you read the Atlantic regularly, you'll begin to think that the Middle East is the center of the world. What the article does is to provide a long, wordy forum for Tom Cotton's ideas.
I didn't find where it mentions the Pro-Israel contributions that Cotton takes.
Here it is:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/05/1375714/-NY-Times-Tom-Cotton-got-over-2-1-million-in-campaign-ad-support-from-pro-Israel-donors
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm always interested in actual interviews. And they still run some good stuff.
pampango
(24,692 posts)edhopper
(33,575 posts)he will run for President in 2020.