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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 11:34 AM Apr 2015

"you can’t do analysis of American politics if you don’t 1st understand the GOP as xenophobic"

Cohn notes that Rubio’s support with the Republican base collapsed when he became associated with the Senate’s comprehensive immigration reform bill and the support has never come back. This is the central fact about both Marco Rubio and the Republican base. If Ben Carson starts pushing reparations for slavery, his support will also collapse and never come back.

Why, then, do we need to look for other reasons for Rubio’s lack of support? Why are we wondering whether Jeb is sucking up all Rubio’s campaign cash when we know that the problem is that the Republican base only supports minority candidates who bash minorities, not ones who try to get “amnesty” for millions of “illegal aliens”?

All we need to do is compare Rubio to another Cuban-American senator to see the problem here. Sen. Ted Cruz wanted to shut down the government to force the president to deport every possible Latino. This is how a Republican minority is supposed to act. Seems to me like Cruz is the better communicator.

Who will raise more money and get more delegates?

I don’t enjoy harping on this stuff, but you can’t do analysis of American politics if you don’t first understand the Republican Party as xenophobic and obsessed with racial purity.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2015/4/13/2179/13855
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"you can’t do analysis of American politics if you don’t 1st understand the GOP as xenophobic" (Original Post) phantom power Apr 2015 OP
you call them xenophobic, I call them bigots. po-tay-toe/po-tah-toe hollysmom Apr 2015 #1
the full quote, referencing "obscessed with racial purity," didn't quite fit on the title form phantom power Apr 2015 #2
ok, to be serious, I go with the team theory rather than the tribe, although they seem very similar hollysmom Apr 2015 #5
Psychopathic is a better term AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #3
Ethnocentric, Nationalistic, Oligarchic, Religiocentric, Xenophobic, Homophobic flat-earthers. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #4

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
2. the full quote, referencing "obscessed with racial purity," didn't quite fit on the title form
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:12 PM
Apr 2015

But xenophobic does capture the tribal aspect of their behavior, which is a bit different than racism. They're motivated as much by what they think might upset Liberals (the enemy tribe) as they are by what they actually believe themselves.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
5. ok, to be serious, I go with the team theory rather than the tribe, although they seem very similar
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 12:55 PM
Apr 2015

I believe that people have been so captured by life as sports (not participatory sports which are healthy but armchair sports with cheer leaders, or pundits). People are on one team or another, you can't just be happy to be at a game, you have to pick a team.
You are either for my team or against it. verbal insults are perfectly acceptable. I joke about Christie Cheering for a Texas team, but you would be surprised at how it has affected people I know that really are pretty ignorant politically and supported Christie when he bullied people because "he was a great character". Maybe Tribal is the intellectual way of saying it, but it does not seem to fit the shallowness of the people who would never cross party lines.
I used to be great friends with my pre tea party conservative neighbors, after a long day at work, they would invite me on their front porch and feed me hor d'oeuvres and cocktails and we would argue politics, then we would part friends and respectfully disagree. That was a while ago and they are dead now, that is not possible anymore, if you don't believe what people believe, they can't talk to you, they can't be polite.

Tribal seems a bit more family aligned, but my own family split along party lines. unless the tribe is who you marry or where you work. certainly was not the family you were born in.

so there you go we agree and disagree a bit.

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